I wrote all that info for you...and you don't even acknowledge it with an answer? took me like 20 minutes to type that war and peace post....good luck
Newbie - I've read a lot here and just a few questions
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Froginblender, I'm kinda "working my way" thru these answers, and not in order, but perhaps you missed this
Anyway, I feel ya, having RSI in both hands, wrists, elbows myself, I find it somewhat *excrutiating* to type sometimes. Really, a big thanks to you.
I haven't "addressed" each thing you wrote yet, because I haven't gone over everything yet, just was pulling a few odds n' ends out of some posts for now. I'm sure I'll have questions that involve stuff you so generously posted to me. I certainly need your help.
Racehorse - please DO NOT get any of those three. I own all of them, and like them very much FOR WHAT THEY ARE; constant-voltage devices. I see few if any compelling reasons to start with, or end with, constant voltage. This setup in the video below is IMO a virtual no-brainer to start with, or to add to just about any collection, no matter how advanced or extensive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol-Ol8qWPic&feature=g-all-c Grimm Green Twist Game changer
Shameless cut-and-paste:
We lost 58,148 brave men and women just in Vietnam. That is perhaps 5,000 deaths a year, in a (very long) shooting war. The death rate from cigarettes is 80 times higher than for our soldiers who fought the heavily-armed North Vietnamese Army and the Viet Cong.
I look at those cigarette machines as if they were machine guns killing 1,200 people a day; 50 people an hour; almost one every minute. And people will keep dying until the war is won.
In World War 2, we lost 416,800 servicemen and women, over a span of about four years. Compare that huge sacrifice to the 443,000 who die each year from smoking. How many Americans in total have died from tobacco? I wish I knew. It could be 20 million or more.
Those tobacco machines must be stopped, or at least slowed down.
The faster a new vaper starts vaping on something, the slower those machines run. Period. Every minute, every hour, every day, or every week you keep out of the fray while trying to find the "perfect" weapon means that those machines are not slowing down when you could be making them slow down.
That is why I advocate the Joyetech eGo-C Twist as much as I do. When Grimm Green and Phil Busardo say that they like it and use it, often in place of their "more advanced", "more powerful", "fuller-featured", or just plain "cooler" stuff, and say that they consider it a valuable addition to anyone's "arsenal" regardless of experience level, that tells me that it's a virtual no-brainer for anyone just starting out. It just does. Sorry.
I wrote this week or so ago, mostly out of frustration:
"If you just want to start vaping while you continue exploring the hundreds of batteries/PV's/APV's/VV AV's, tube mods, box mods, bottom feeders, drip atomizers, variable wattage devices, pass-throughs, cartridges, blank cartridges, pre-filled cartridges, cartomizers, XL cartomizers, XXL cartomizers, pre-punched cartomizers, slotted cartomizers, clearomizers, rebuildable atomizers, humungomizers, hi-res, standard-res, low-res atomizers/cartomizers, eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers, the Bulli atomizer, 510 threads, 808 threads, 808-to-510 adapters, 510-510 extensions and what devices need them for what attachments, single coils, dual coils, triple coils, watts, amps, milliamps, mah (milliamp hours), volts, ohms, resistance as it relates to amp draw and battery life, pulse width modulation, buck/boost circuits, LED readouts and menus, IMR batteries, ICR batteries, drain rates, charging rates, battery safety, "protected"batteries, "unprotected" batteries", "ECF Compliance", multiple-battery chargers, cones, trim rings, J-Tanks, the MAP tank, Joyetech tank systems, Joyetech "C" vs. "T" and "A" tank vs "B" tank, "eGo" vs. Ego" vs. "kGo" vs. "Go-Go" vs. "WTF" .................
then you might want to consider what ******* just advised you to do. Get a couple of batteries, a charger (two would be better), a couple of boxes of Boge 2.0 or 3.0 ohm single coil XL cartomizers, a 510 drip tip, and some juice. Any juice.
If you want a tobacco flavor, get some "Virginia" and/or "Casablanca" from Backwoods Brew. If you want a non-tobacco flavor, get some "Root Beer" or "Peach" from Backwoods Brew.
Optional but highly recommended: one or two Vivi Nova tank/atomizers.
When the stuff comes, charge the batteries, put some juice into a carto, get the polyfill well-saturated, push the button, and vape.
Then explore other options as (and if) you feel the need to".
Please do not spend 200 hours analyzing every option out there before you start vaping on anything, like some poor woman on here said she did. In 200 hours, over 10,000 people die from smoking. Just start vaping on something. it doesn't have to be perfect; I think it's fine if it's merely very, very good, and something that you will very likely continue to use with some regularity regardless of what other gear you end up with. At the very, very least, you can give or sell it to someone else whose life neeeds saving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol-Ol8qWPic&feature=g-all-c Grimm Green Twist Game changer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lLAVH_Lae0 Phil Busardo Twist review
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John, SOBERING! Cut-to-the-chase and pull the trigger----
I can look for "perfect" recreationally-----in this topic, I've received suggestions for KGO and EGO. I'm going to buy EGO twists, for brother, I'll let him decide ----and later on we can compare and/or swap.
Thank you for the hurry up approach. I'm on disposables now, but know I won't "last" on them, so I need to get a system right away so I don't buy another pack of cancer sticks.
edit: And yes, NOT kits. I kinda had a thing for those twists batts to be honest, from the very beginning, so I will go with them, get a pass thru later on if I need it. I'm going to ala carte this stuff instead of getting "starter kits"
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As you can see, people here do have their favorite e-cigs. I would strongly suggest that you keep it simple. You'll read countless posts from people who have trouble with tanks, with the possible exception of the Vivi Nova, which I haven't tried. I don't like any of the tanks I've tried; they mute the flavor of the juice. However, some people swear by them so it's obviously an individual thing.
You can't really go wrong if you stick to a KGO or an EGO Twist to start with, along with some Smoketech or Boge cartomizers and some sample juices. It doesn't have to be complicated unless you want it to be; the trick is to get started. Odds are good that you'll end up buying a newer/different model within six months anyway.
You can't really go wrong if you stick to a KGO or an EGO Twist to start with, along with some Smoketech or Boge cartomizers and some sample juices. It doesn't have to be complicated unless you want it to be; the trick is to get started. Odds are good that you'll end up buying a newer/different model within six months anyway.
John, SOBERING! Cut-to-the-chase and pull the trigger----
I can look for "perfect" recreationally-----in this topic, I've received suggestions for KGO and EGO. I'm going to buy EGO for myself, KGO for brother, and later on we can compare and/or swap.
Thank you for the hurry up approach. I'm on disposables now, but know I won't "last" on them, so I need to get a system right away so I don't buy another pack of cancer sticks.
I just noticed that these two links were not "clickable" in my previous post:
THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube Grimm Green Twist Game changer
A PBusardo Review - eGo Twist - OvaleUSA - YouTube Phil Busardo Twist review
Please do not get the constant-voltage eGo or kGo; please get two or three $22 650mah Twists instead.
PLEASE at least watch the Grimm Green review.
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Why on earth would you tell someone not to get a KGO? They are fabulous and many people vape with them very happily. Not everyone wants or needs variable voltage.
well i seen one thing that is making me go with a pg over vg. one if you have ever had to use a inhaler in you life they are full of pg. when i was younger i had asma so i used my fare share of them. but when i grew out of the asma i started smoking and smoked from there on. i have yet to start vaping myself but with help from youtube and reading here in the forms and CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association i have come to a conclusion that yes it is hard for us who want to start and are heads are spinning and there is so many things you need to know. but for myself i will be making mods after i get my first kit and see what i like. i hope to be off the cancer sticks by this time next week and hope this also helps like it did for me
Good luck, dragonrage! Let us know if you have any questions. Or just feel free to come here to share your experiences.
Because I think it's nice to be able to adjust the amount of watts that I vape at without having to change attachments. That's why on earth. Now please leave me alone. You seem to give me the same grief over and over and over.
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John, SOBERING! Cut-to-the-chase and pull the trigger----
I can look for "perfect" recreationally-----in this topic, I've received suggestions for KGO and EGO. I'm going to buy EGO twists, for brother, I'll let him decide ----and later on we can compare and/or swap.
Thank you for the hurry up approach. I'm on disposables now, but know I won't "last" on them, so I need to get a system right away so I don't buy another pack of cancer sticks.
edit: And yes, NOT kits. I kinda had a thing for those twists batts to be honest, from the very beginning, so I will go with them, get a pass thru later on if I need it. I'm going to ala carte this stuff instead of getting "starter kits"
Exactly. I see no compelling reason to get a "kit". And speaking of a la carte:
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Links:
Joyetech eGo-C Twist: Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 650mAh Battery (MyVaporStore)
Smoktech 3.5ml DCT tank: Pro DCTank Tube (MyVaporStore)
USB charger: eGo Rapid USB Charger 6.75 (MyVaporStore)
Wall charger: Mini AC Wall to USB Converter 6.25 (MyVaporStore)
eGo trim piece: eGo Cone Cover for DCTank (MyVaporStore)
Plain drip tip: Colored Drip Tip - 510/901 (MyVaporStore)
Cartomizers: Crystal Clear Vaping CrystalClearVaping
Cartomizers: Boge Mix n Match (5 Boxes) SureVapes - $0.92 each
No, I do not own, work for, or am in any way affiliated with MyVaporStore.com.
If you don't like this setup, you can PM me and I will buy it from you fr what you paid for it. For you, I will reimburse you for shipping. For anyone else reading this, same deal except the shipping to me is on you.
You will like it, and you wll like it very much. You will have to slot the cartomizers; either per Phil Busardo's YouTube video:
A PBusardo Tutorial - How I slot my cartos!.wmv - YouTube - or PM me and I will call you and tell you how to do it. You'll need to own or borrow a Dremel tool for someone, and you'll need some Dremel cut-off wheels, # 409. Or you can buy a cartomizr punch. It's hard to find pre-punched cartomizers that will work well with lower-voltage devices, even ones that go up to 4.8 volts like the Twist. Some people - including MyVaporStore - will say that dual coil cartomizers work fine on lower-voltage devices - but they do not.
From the MyVaporStore website:
These cartomizers were designed specifically for use with Dual Coil Tank (DCTank) Tubes. A 510 drip tip and DCTank tube is needed in order to use these cartomizers. There is a hole punch on the side of them so may leak if used without a DCTank Tube.
All of our eLiquid will work with the DCTank (full PG or 50/50 PG/VG). Full VG eliquid is too thick and will not work well in theDCTank. [VG will work much better in a carto slotted for it].
These new cartomizers contain two heating coils instead of one to produce more vapor than your standard cartomizer [if you can put enough volts/watts to them]. They have been designed to work great with 3.7V batteries [Not IMO] or a HV (high voltage) setup. Available in 1.5ohm or 2.5ohm. Please allow +/- 0.3 variation. We recommend 1.5ohm for Ego batteries [why?] or 3.0V-4.2V batteries and 2.5ohm for 5V or higher. These cartomizers must be used with batteries of 650mAh capacity or higher and are known to discharge batteries much quicker than single coil cartomizers.
This is nowhere near as complicated as it might seem, and will be well worth the modest learning curve to figure out. This thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/302432-why-ego-c-twist-game-changer.html
contains a thorough discussion of why single coil cartomizers are far superior (IMO) to dual coils for use in a Joyetech Twist (or any eGo-class battery/PV).
If you do nothing else, please at least watch the Grimm Green review of the Twist, and feel free to ask any questions that you might have. Good luck, and happy vaping, whatever it's on.
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Others might recommend other things, and I encourage them to do so without making direct comparisons to what I have recommended if those other devices are of a different form factor.
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Also: I have always found the term DCT[ank] to be a misnomer, since "DCT" stands for Dual Coil Tank, potentially leading one to believe that single coil cartomizers are somehow not well-suited to them, which IMO they very much are. Some people like dual coils, and IMO they have their place, but not in lower-voltage devices; not even a 1.5 ohm dual coil in a Twist, due to the marginal wattage per coil, and the greatly increased amp draw of say a 1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizer over a 3.0 ohm single coil.
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Final note:
Volts are great, but they're not variable voltage. kGo's, Rivas, and standard eGo's are great, but they're not variable voltage. IMO, there is no longer a compelling reason not to start with variable voltage. I've asked what that compelling reason is, and hereby ask again. What is the compelling reason for not getting two Joyetech eGo-C Twist batteries right from the start, if for no other reason than to have a perfectly fine variable voltage device to vape on while you continue to explore your options?
I have a lot of stuff, but right now, I'm vaping on a 650mah Twist fitted with a Smoktech 3.5ml DCT tank with a nicely-slotted Boge 3.0 ohm single coil SS XL carto in it. My vape is great. I don't even want to bother to pick up my VMax. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? TIA.
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THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube Grimm Green Twist Game changer
"Why variable voltage?" cut-and-paste:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-away-while-whats-best-new-kit-out-there.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408085
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408151
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408165
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-away-while-whats-best-new-kit-out-there.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408085
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408151
Variable voltage lets you use 1 resistance and adjust the voltage to suit your taste. Like a cooler vape, turn it down. Want something warmer, turn it up. You don't have to use low resistance or high resistance or anything but 3ohm cartos to vape from 5 to 12 watts. This is the Vtube. You can adjust the voltage from 3 to 6 volts. The diameter is the same as a nickel. It's much smaller than the pictures look and takes an 18650 sized battery, included in the kit with a charger. You can get about 14 hours on one battery charge. This is the chrome version and costs $60 shipped with battery and charger and a 30 day money-back guarantee and a one year warranty.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ats-best-new-kit-out-there-2.html#post6408165
Awesome posts John D in CT. You never cease to impress me.
Another thing to consider, Racehorse, is pick up a vv box mod. They are inexpensive and can have some neat features. If you run over (don't walk) to Shan Mods @ VAPECORE.com, Shan Burkholder has a few of her custom minis available that run 2 14500s and are adjustable up to 8.4v. She takes great care assembling them and they have some pretty neat graphics. They are top notch for the price. Kalamazoo Vapor Shop has some stock box mods also. You can also pick up kits and assemble them yourself. They come with everything you need so you can build one that is exactly the way you want it. I'm sure there are many other offerings out there. This was just meant as an additional possibility.
Another thing to consider, Racehorse, is pick up a vv box mod. They are inexpensive and can have some neat features. If you run over (don't walk) to Shan Mods @ VAPECORE.com, Shan Burkholder has a few of her custom minis available that run 2 14500s and are adjustable up to 8.4v. She takes great care assembling them and they have some pretty neat graphics. They are top notch for the price. Kalamazoo Vapor Shop has some stock box mods also. You can also pick up kits and assemble them yourself. They come with everything you need so you can build one that is exactly the way you want it. I'm sure there are many other offerings out there. This was just meant as an additional possibility.
TBinAz, I'll bookmark that link, thanks! Some of the larger voltage stuff, like box mod and the VV that Froginblender recommended are probably where I'll go "next". How can I saw this without seeming stupid......some of this is all very intimidating to a newbie LOL It all kinda scares me a little. I think maybe I will get something like that for home as my "2nd" system at some point.
John D in CT, I have some questions on the ala carte order:
1) On the Boge mix n match, it asks me if LR, SR, or XL. Since I don't know what that means, what to get?
2) On those stainless steel Cartomizers they ask if I want 2 ohms or 3 ohms, what to get?
3) Both are "carts" therefore, do I need to order both right now at same time and / or what is difference?
4) not sure I like the clear plastic drip tips, but a drip tip is a drip tip, right, as long as threading is 510? Was thinking of getting the prettier ones albeit more expensive, so I do realize why you specified the others, to save me $$
5) Trim pieces: "covers". I see the cover/ring that covers the DCT --- I take it that it hides the battery threads for a more seamless look. And since using a DCT tank, which is larger, this particular ring you specified would cover that.
But there is also smaller cones that appear color-coded to whatever Twist batt you get----should I pick that up too? .....what are those for? I noticed if I want to use a Lanyard it says I need one of those because the ring on the lanyard has to have something of a speicific size. Oh well, I might just get on my sewing machine and make some nice "neck luggage" to put my ecig in LOL As a matter of fact, seems like creatively, this might be something I could sew up for others too. LOL I have to attach stuff like sunglasses to my person, otherwise, I lose the first day
6) I was looking at the vivi nova thingy---run about $20, it wasn't on your ala carte list, you or someone mentioned earlier though as something I might consider. But seems to me they might look silly on the Twists? Maybe look better on a provari. What do I know LOL
Miscellaneous thoughts:
7) Batts - see no reason not to get one 1000 mAh and one 650mAH, seems like that would be flexible.
8) pass thru charger might be something I want *next* for when sitting at my computer yakkin' on this forum?
(for some reason, I see that happening LOL)
9) I DO have some liquid questions but will save those for next post.
John D in CT, I have some questions on the ala carte order:
1) On the Boge mix n match, it asks me if LR, SR, or XL. Since I don't know what that means, what to get?
2) On those stainless steel Cartomizers they ask if I want 2 ohms or 3 ohms, what to get?
3) Both are "carts" therefore, do I need to order both right now at same time and / or what is difference?
4) not sure I like the clear plastic drip tips, but a drip tip is a drip tip, right, as long as threading is 510? Was thinking of getting the prettier ones albeit more expensive, so I do realize why you specified the others, to save me $$
5) Trim pieces: "covers". I see the cover/ring that covers the DCT --- I take it that it hides the battery threads for a more seamless look. And since using a DCT tank, which is larger, this particular ring you specified would cover that.
But there is also smaller cones that appear color-coded to whatever Twist batt you get----should I pick that up too? .....what are those for? I noticed if I want to use a Lanyard it says I need one of those because the ring on the lanyard has to have something of a speicific size. Oh well, I might just get on my sewing machine and make some nice "neck luggage" to put my ecig in LOL As a matter of fact, seems like creatively, this might be something I could sew up for others too. LOL I have to attach stuff like sunglasses to my person, otherwise, I lose the first day
6) I was looking at the vivi nova thingy---run about $20, it wasn't on your ala carte list, you or someone mentioned earlier though as something I might consider. But seems to me they might look silly on the Twists? Maybe look better on a provari. What do I know LOL
Miscellaneous thoughts:
7) Batts - see no reason not to get one 1000 mAh and one 650mAH, seems like that would be flexible.
8) pass thru charger might be something I want *next* for when sitting at my computer yakkin' on this forum?
(for some reason, I see that happening LOL)
9) I DO have some liquid questions but will save those for next post.
1) On the Boge mix n match, it asks me if LR, SR, or XL. Since I don't know what that means, what to get?
XL cartos are the ones that fit the Smoktech 3.5ml CT tank. They are about 50mm in length overall. "XL" means "Xtra Long". The next size down would be "Regular" or "L" - can't honestly remember which - "L" I suppose - and is about 40mm in length overall. There's a shorter, slightly fatter 3.5ml DCT tank that these fit nicely. "LR" and "SR" means "low resistance" and "standard resistance"; 2.0 and 3.0 ohms (nominal). In actuality they seem to run about 2.2/2.3 and 2.8-ish ohms.
2) On those stainless steel Cartomizers they ask if I want 2 ohms or 3 ohms, what to get?
I'd just get the 2.0's, or mosly 2.0's and some 3.0's to see the difference.
3) Both are "carts" therefore, do I need to order both right now at same time and / or what is difference?
Please see above.
4) not sure I like the clear plastic drip tips, but a drip tip is a drip tip, right, as long as threading is 510? Was thinking of getting the prettier ones albeit more expensive, so I do realize why you specified the others, to save me $$
A (510) tip is a tip is a tip as far as functionality. I'd get at least one clear one because they "go" with everything. Other than that, knock yourself out. (Oh - and they're a press fit with an o-ring, not screw-in).
5) Trim pieces: "covers". I see the cover/ring that covers the DCT --- I take it that it hides the battery threads for a more seamless look. And since using a DCT tank, which is larger, this particular ring you specified would cover that.
The straighter trim piece is the one you want for the 3.5ml tanks, not the one that flares out. The latter is for the 5-6ml tanks. The trim piece also serves to keep unflanged cartos from sliding down the 510 connection. This will become clear to you when you get the stuff.
But there is also smaller cones that appear color-coded to whatever Twist batt you get----should I pick that up too? .....what are those for? I noticed if I want to use a Lanyard it says I need one of those because the ring on the lanyard has to have something of a speicific size. Oh well, I might just get on my sewing machine and make some nice "neck luggage" to put my ecig in LOL As a matter of fact, seems like creatively, this might be something I could sew up for others too. LOL I have to attach stuff like sunglasses to my person, otherwise, I lose the first day
Dunno about the colored ones, but if they look like they'd do the same thing, go for it. Maybe get at least one chrome on just in case. Maybe hold off on the lanyard for now, and save your money for juice. I've never bothered with one, and I tend to go overboard, so maybe that'll tell ya something.
6) I was looking at the vivi nova thingy---run about $20, it wasn't on your ala carte list, you or someone mentioned earlier though as something I might consider. But seems to me they might look silly on the Twists? Maybe look better on a provari. What do I know LOL
They look fine to me, and I would mos' def get one. They seem to be da bomb.
Miscellaneous thoughts:
7) Batts - see no reason not to get one 1000 mAh and one 650mAH, seems like that would be flexible.
The 1000's are just WAYYYYY long. Tough call. Sure, get one of each. What the hey.
8) pass thru charger might be something I want *next* for when sitting at my computer yakkin' on this forum?
(for some reason, I see that happening LOL)
Just remember that a passthrough will be constant voltage. I never use mine any more. I'd save the $$$.
9) I DO have some liquid questions but will save those for next post.
Let 'er rip.
XL cartos are the ones that fit the Smoktech 3.5ml CT tank. They are about 50mm in length overall. "XL" means "Xtra Long". The next size down would be "Regular" or "L" - can't honestly remember which - "L" I suppose - and is about 40mm in length overall. There's a shorter, slightly fatter 3.5ml DCT tank that these fit nicely. "LR" and "SR" means "low resistance" and "standard resistance"; 2.0 and 3.0 ohms (nominal). In actuality they seem to run about 2.2/2.3 and 2.8-ish ohms.
2) On those stainless steel Cartomizers they ask if I want 2 ohms or 3 ohms, what to get?
I'd just get the 2.0's, or mosly 2.0's and some 3.0's to see the difference.
3) Both are "carts" therefore, do I need to order both right now at same time and / or what is difference?
Please see above.
4) not sure I like the clear plastic drip tips, but a drip tip is a drip tip, right, as long as threading is 510? Was thinking of getting the prettier ones albeit more expensive, so I do realize why you specified the others, to save me $$
A (510) tip is a tip is a tip as far as functionality. I'd get at least one clear one because they "go" with everything. Other than that, knock yourself out.
(Oh - and they're a press fit with an o-ring, not screw-in).5) Trim pieces: "covers". I see the cover/ring that covers the DCT --- I take it that it hides the battery threads for a more seamless look. And since using a DCT tank, which is larger, this particular ring you specified would cover that.
The straighter trim piece is the one you want for the 3.5ml tanks, not the one that flares out. The latter is for the 5-6ml tanks. The trim piece also serves to keep unflanged cartos from sliding down the 510 connection. This will become clear to you when you get the stuff.
But there is also smaller cones that appear color-coded to whatever Twist batt you get----should I pick that up too? .....what are those for? I noticed if I want to use a Lanyard it says I need one of those because the ring on the lanyard has to have something of a speicific size. Oh well, I might just get on my sewing machine and make some nice "neck luggage" to put my ecig in LOL As a matter of fact, seems like creatively, this might be something I could sew up for others too. LOL I have to attach stuff like sunglasses to my person, otherwise, I lose the first day
Dunno about the colored ones, but if they look like they'd do the same thing, go for it. Maybe get at least one chrome on just in case. Maybe hold off on the lanyard for now, and save your money for juice. I've never bothered with one, and I tend to go overboard, so maybe that'll tell ya something.
6) I was looking at the vivi nova thingy---run about $20, it wasn't on your ala carte list, you or someone mentioned earlier though as something I might consider. But seems to me they might look silly on the Twists? Maybe look better on a provari. What do I know LOL
They look fine to me, and I would mos' def get one. They seem to be da bomb.
Miscellaneous thoughts:
7) Batts - see no reason not to get one 1000 mAh and one 650mAH, seems like that would be flexible.
The 1000's are just WAYYYYY long. Tough call. Sure, get one of each. What the hey.
8) pass thru charger might be something I want *next* for when sitting at my computer yakkin' on this forum?
(for some reason, I see that happening LOL)
Just remember that a passthrough will be constant voltage. I never use mine any more. I'd save the $$$.
9) I DO have some liquid questions but will save those for next post.
Let 'er rip.
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aimeeava:
Welcome to ECF! Have you started vaping yet? What kind of set-up are you using or are you thinking of using so far?
Racehorse:
It looks like you're well on your way! Good luck!
Welcome to ECF! Have you started vaping yet? What kind of set-up are you using or are you thinking of using so far?
Racehorse:
It looks like you're well on your way! Good luck!
Take a look at this video review of the new 2.0 Vision Stardust. Vision eGo 2.0 Clearomizer aka Stardust
Oh, and BTW, the carto deal that John D in CT mentions is absolutely one of the best out there. I've already cashed in on that twice so far.
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Cut-and-paste about carto-in-a-tank tips. There are arguably better ways to vape, but I think the carto in a tank is one of the "old standbys" that will be around for a while.
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Tips and tricks:
When filling your cartos and tanks: (After slotting it of course), lubricate the carto with a bit of juice and slide it up into the bottom of the tank, leaving enough room between the top of it and the top cap so you can squeeze in some juice without dumping any directly into the carto. That said, then drip about 15-20 drops directly into the top of the carto. Fill the tank as full as you can without having the level in the tank overflow into the carto, then slide the carto all the way up into and through the top cap.
THEN WAIT until a drop or two of juice finally drips out the 510 connector on the bottom of the carto. (During the waiting period, you can go ahead and add more drops - maybe as much as 10-15 more - but making sure that the carto doesn't develop any signs of "standing" liquid at the top surface of the polyfill. Pretty much fill it like you would water a houseplant; moist, but not soggy. This is very important for a great draw and great hit "right out of the box"). You do not want to put power to the coil before the carto is nice and moist; once the polyfill is scorched, it can't be unscorched. (I came up with that all by myself). As the carto "stabilizes", you'll see little bubbles (RIP Don Ho) coming out of the slot. Enjoy them; they are cool. And like the "tingle" of Tegrin shampoo, they tell you that "it's working". (And yes, I am borderline nuts).
When you need to refill the tank, just pull the carto back down a bit, leaving the same gap as before between the top of the carto and the bottom of the top cap, and fill 'er up. Be careful not to pull the tank away from the bottom cap in the process. Been there, done that, cleaned up that mess. And again, be careful not to pour any juice firectly into the top of the carto. After using these tanks for about half a year, I just did that again yesterday. When (not if) it does happen, just go ahead and fill the tank (after mildly swearing and oulling th carto down a bit further), and then blow through the drip tip to help remove the xcess juice that has now flooded it. After a few gentle hits that will get some juice into your mouth, the carto should begin to draw nicely again.
After maybe a few days (some lucky users say a week or more), the carto will become increasingly hard to draw through. At that point, simply put a new, properly-slotted one in. Regardless of the juice level in the tank, what I do is to simply invert the tank, push the new carto in through what is now the bottom of the tank, driving the old carto out through wat is now the top of the tank. Presto.
Yes, the tanks are intended to have a top cap and a bottom cap, and might or might not have functional design elements on the "bottom" cap that would engage the flat spots on a flanged carto, but at best they barely work anyway, so I just ignore that feature and enjoy the luxury of being able to swap cartos so easily. I rarely have a problem unscrewing an unflanged carto and tank from the 510 connection, but if one does become stuck, just gently grip the top of the carto where it protrudes from the tank with a pair of pliers and turn it right out. Keeping the trim piece screwed tightly down on the 510 connectors reduces the chances of it acting like a lock nut.
The Twist itself:
I just thought of this last night, and just did it for the first time just now. Tried not being a douche, you might ask? No - I just put a little dab of "Streetwalker Red" nail polish right smack on the "4.0" on the volt dial, so now I can tell at a glance where I am. Not that I really cared all that much anyway, but it's just gonna be nice. I like stupid little things like that.
Remember that the Twist has the famous "five rapid clicks to turn off", "five more rapid clicks to turn back on" feature. Very nice for pocket-friendliness, and fun for the whole family.
Slotting cartos:
I recommend getting a little tube of 36 "Dremel Cut-Off Wheel No. 409" down at the local hardware store. They are 1mm thick, and do a very nice job. They are also EXTREMELY brittle, and if you're not careful, you will go through more of them through breaking than through their ntended purpose. DO NOT leave the arbor ith cut-off wheel mounted on the Dremel (or equivalent) when you're not using it. DO NOT ask me how I know this. Also consider getting a spare arbor for when you lose the little screw. Backup, backup backup.
When cutting the slot, there's obviously a trade-off between maximizing tank capacity (slot down low) and having it too damn low (insufficient juice flow into the carto). Have I made a jig yet to uniformly slot my cartos? Of course not. That would be far too sensible, and would require effort. For now, I mark them with a fine Sharpie, and err slightly on the high side.
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Tips and tricks:
When filling your cartos and tanks: (After slotting it of course), lubricate the carto with a bit of juice and slide it up into the bottom of the tank, leaving enough room between the top of it and the top cap so you can squeeze in some juice without dumping any directly into the carto. That said, then drip about 15-20 drops directly into the top of the carto. Fill the tank as full as you can without having the level in the tank overflow into the carto, then slide the carto all the way up into and through the top cap.
THEN WAIT until a drop or two of juice finally drips out the 510 connector on the bottom of the carto. (During the waiting period, you can go ahead and add more drops - maybe as much as 10-15 more - but making sure that the carto doesn't develop any signs of "standing" liquid at the top surface of the polyfill. Pretty much fill it like you would water a houseplant; moist, but not soggy. This is very important for a great draw and great hit "right out of the box"). You do not want to put power to the coil before the carto is nice and moist; once the polyfill is scorched, it can't be unscorched. (I came up with that all by myself).
As the carto "stabilizes", you'll see little bubbles (RIP Don Ho) coming out of the slot. Enjoy them; they are cool. And like the "tingle" of Tegrin shampoo, they tell you that "it's working". (And yes, I am borderline nuts). When you need to refill the tank, just pull the carto back down a bit, leaving the same gap as before between the top of the carto and the bottom of the top cap, and fill 'er up. Be careful not to pull the tank away from the bottom cap in the process. Been there, done that, cleaned up that mess. And again, be careful not to pour any juice firectly into the top of the carto. After using these tanks for about half a year, I just did that again yesterday. When (not if) it does happen, just go ahead and fill the tank (after mildly swearing and oulling th carto down a bit further), and then blow through the drip tip to help remove the xcess juice that has now flooded it. After a few gentle hits that will get some juice into your mouth, the carto should begin to draw nicely again.
After maybe a few days (some lucky users say a week or more), the carto will become increasingly hard to draw through. At that point, simply put a new, properly-slotted one in. Regardless of the juice level in the tank, what I do is to simply invert the tank, push the new carto in through what is now the bottom of the tank, driving the old carto out through wat is now the top of the tank. Presto.
Yes, the tanks are intended to have a top cap and a bottom cap, and might or might not have functional design elements on the "bottom" cap that would engage the flat spots on a flanged carto, but at best they barely work anyway, so I just ignore that feature and enjoy the luxury of being able to swap cartos so easily. I rarely have a problem unscrewing an unflanged carto and tank from the 510 connection, but if one does become stuck, just gently grip the top of the carto where it protrudes from the tank with a pair of pliers and turn it right out. Keeping the trim piece screwed tightly down on the 510 connectors reduces the chances of it acting like a lock nut.
The Twist itself:
I just thought of this last night, and just did it for the first time just now. Tried not being a douche, you might ask? No - I just put a little dab of "Streetwalker Red" nail polish right smack on the "4.0" on the volt dial, so now I can tell at a glance where I am. Not that I really cared all that much anyway, but it's just gonna be nice. I like stupid little things like that.
Remember that the Twist has the famous "five rapid clicks to turn off", "five more rapid clicks to turn back on" feature. Very nice for pocket-friendliness, and fun for the whole family.
Slotting cartos:
I recommend getting a little tube of 36 "Dremel Cut-Off Wheel No. 409" down at the local hardware store. They are 1mm thick, and do a very nice job. They are also EXTREMELY brittle, and if you're not careful, you will go through more of them through breaking than through their ntended purpose. DO NOT leave the arbor ith cut-off wheel mounted on the Dremel (or equivalent) when you're not using it. DO NOT ask me how I know this. Also consider getting a spare arbor for when you lose the little screw. Backup, backup backup.
When cutting the slot, there's obviously a trade-off between maximizing tank capacity (slot down low) and having it too damn low (insufficient juice flow into the carto). Have I made a jig yet to uniformly slot my cartos? Of course not. That would be far too sensible, and would require effort. For now, I mark them with a fine Sharpie, and err slightly on the high side.
Why not a constant voltage? That's just something ridiculous to tell someone. Yes I had an ego twist, did I really use the varriable voltage? Nope! I use low resist, my twist was set at 3.7, as the battery drained and you don't get the same power at the end of its charged state yes the voltage got turned up to 4.0 to compensate. Now I have a 3.7 constant volt Reo Grand. Even in Grim Greens videos his favorites are his 3.7 mods, he says so himself. Not everyone needs the variable voltage.
To the OP: if you do watch the GrimmGreen video, please watch his some of his other videos as well such as:
SOME OF MY FAVORITE VAPES : KICK UPDATE - YouTube
and
TAKING THE NEXT VAPING STEP - YouTube
Just because one of his videos praises the twist doesn't mean that is all there is, infact he now really really loves his darwin.
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