Newbie Question About Throat Hit

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So, I decided to go ahead and purchase an electronic cigarette a few days back. After my first few times, I was noticing that I was never getting a buzz despite having a 24 mg cartridge (Prosmoke, 100% VG...I bought in haste, before learning a little of the better choices for e-cigs from this forum). After rummaging through some of the forums the last couple of days I had noticed people use all different types of methods to try and achieve a throat hit (is this the same as a buzz?), including Everclear, cayenne pepper extract, increasing the PG/VG ratio of e-liquid, etc. I also noticed that on a few forums there was discussion regarding absorption of nicotine being related to pH levels. There was no strong consensus in the articles I read as to whether a particular method actually worked in generating a buzz, so I started experimenting a little. Unfortunately (or, maybe fortunately, at least for the sake of my immediate health), the only chemicals around my house that I could experiment with were vinegar and baking soda.

Knowing that baking soda is an abrasive and can be used to raise alkalinity (raise pH) in liquids, I probably very foolishly put some in my mouth and rubbed it on my gums with my tongue, thinking it might both raise the pH of my mouth while creating small cuts in my gums (the gum cutting being action being similar to that of fiberglass purported to at one time or another be present in chew to increase absorption of nicotine through the gums). After spitting the baking soda out I proceeded to take a few puffs from the e-cig, holding the vapor in my mouth for a while and then exhaling through my nose. For the first time, I think I received a buzz, which is still apparently ongoing (although dissipating) almost 45 minutes later. I am thinking my reaction may be a placebo, but just wanted to know if anybody else had tried this ridiculous method to try and achieve a nicotine buzz from an e-cig and whether it worked for them. I am prepared to receive some criticism for my actions, with a pearly smile from the baking soda....
 

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Umm...hey, to each his own. But I think I'd try some different juice before I started gnawing through the cleaning supplies lol. I'm not a throat hit guy myself, so I'm no expert, but from what I've learned VG is way down on the TH. You probably need to try something with a higher PG content. Even if you don't have a brick and mortar store nearby, there's a lot of vendors who offer overnight shipping. Might be a better alternative than eating the insulation Scuttle :p
 

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I think that buzz is also your brain cells receiving less oxygen. When you're smoking, the carbon monoxide binds to your blood cells (ok, biology ain't my forte, somebody better versed will chime in... I hope) and feeds your brain. That buzz is from that.

Nicotine buzz is that lovely heart palpitations, headaches, etc.
 

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Throat hit isn't the same as "buzz" aka "rush."

Throat hit is the "tickle" you feel when you inhale. You can get plenty of throat hit from e-cigs, but there are three components to this; voltage of the battery, nicotine level and PG level. Higher voltage in combination with high nicotine and PG levels = reckless throat hit.

4mehealth pegged the "buzz" feeling, and it's rare to get this from e-cigs. Smoking involves inhaling carbon monoxide, which binds to red blood cells and inhibits oxygen from reaching the brain. Nicotine absorption from e-cigs is also much slower than it is when smoking.
 

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You'll get more throat hit and vapor from a pure PG solution.

For more buzz, you might want to look at a 5 volt or a variable volt mod with no cutoff switch.

Almost right except you probably won't get a lot of vapor from 100% PG. VG is what provides lots of vapor, but decreases some flavors and throat hit.
 

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I also think there may be some other component involved. There are so many chemicals in analog cigarettes that we may be addicted to in addition to the nicotine...

Additionally, DVap has written some very compelling literature in regards to the nicotine extraction process and nicotine addiction in general on this forum. I'd suggest you start here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/1657-caution-about-modeling-analog-addiction.html

It took me about a week of smoking and vaping together, and then another couple of weeks after that to finally stop wanting a real smoke. Now I have no desire at all, and for the first time since I was 16, they smell bad to me...

Hope this helps...
 

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There are only TWO things that provides 90-95% of throat hit: warmer vapor and nicotine strength. More PG vs VG, additives such as PGA, only change the throat hit by a small percentage. And that may be all a person needs, which makes it a little easier.

Warmer vapor comes with more power, which is provided by more powerful batteries: 5 volt and variable volt batteries provide the warmest vapor and thus much better and consistent throat hit over a much longer time frame. If a person has not vaped on a 5 volt or variable volt PV in comparison to 3.2v - 3.7v, there is no way they would realize the significant difference. The other part of the equation is obviously a higher level of nicotine, generally in the 18-36mg range.

LR attys can also help with smaller battery PV's (3.2-3.7 volt). But they have a shorter life span and are more inconsistent.

If you are not getting much throat hit vaping 24mg strength liquid, you need a better PV.
 
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