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KalebK

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Hello fellow vapers, my name is Kaleb and I am realatively new to vaping (been off analogs since Jan) and I was just wondering if someone could inform me about which cartomizers and tanks are compatible with my e-cig. I have an Omega 2 from Smart Smoke http://www.asmartsmoke.com and while i love the battery life that it gives me, im tired of buying the prefilled cartridges(10 come in a bottle for $26) and I think it would be much more cost effective just buying cartos or tanks to fill myself! Thanks so much!!
 

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I personally haven't been successful with tanks and I hate the taste that cartos give. But that's just me. A lot of people buy there own juice and cartos and fill it themselves. I would think you would save more money that way. An average 30ml of juice is about $15 to 25 depending on where you get it and for some dual coil xl smoktech cartos are like something like $9 for a pack of five. I think one carto will last about a week or so. One XL usually one carto takes about 25 drops of liquid which is something around 2 to 3ml. Have you ever tried direct dripping?
 

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It appears to be an ego type 650 mah battery and the cartomizers appear to be 510 cartomizers. I can't say 100% and they don't say on the website. Is it an automatic or manual battery (push button)?

If you could determine that it's a 510, you can purchase 510 cartomizers from most vendors and fill them yourself with e-liquid.

I don't want to tell you to do that because on the website it says if you use other products on the pv it could void your warranty. Maybe someone will come along that has one that can help.
 

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Hi kalebk07 and welcome to ECF. I'd recommend the Kgo Kit. It comes with 2 X 100 mah batts- 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping. Also has chrager etc. It's a true 3.7 volt PV so the option of using different cartomizers is not limited. You could also add on a tank for $10- $15.00. Ego tank system, some love them and some have had problems.
Here's a Kgo review



Although I don't own one I tried it out and have bought/ given out over 80 kits and all raved about it.
KGO kit1100mAh by SLB $42.00...discount code 5off for 5% off...free shipping for orders of $55 or more
Good Luck.
 

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Its a manual (5 button press) battery. I am so overwhelmed and am considering just purchasing an ego tank system, would that be my best bet?

The 5 press battery makes it sound like a re-branded ego. Does it look just like this? If it does and you are willing to take a chance, I'd order a 510 cartomizer from pretty much anywhere and check if it fits.
 

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I bet 510. Look at the 2.5 ohm Boge cartomizers and see if they look like what you have. Also you can clean the ones you have I bet and refill them. Heck if they were just a plain tobacco flavor just try refilling without cleaning 1st. That's what I did with my prefilled starters. There are some good videos on you tube on how to clean cartomisers as well as how to fill them. Good luck and welcome to the ECF
 

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Samyaza, its stainless steel and I cant tell if it looks like that or not. Can I post pictures to the forum? I have the website listed where I got it in my first post on this thread.

I had a look at the kit on the site and it look similar, but hard to tell. The specifications and 5 press off make it sound like an ego though.

If it were me I'd buy the 510 cartos and juice and see if they work on your current pv, if they don't work, then get the kgo. You will be able to use the 510 cartomizers on the kgo so you won't have lost out buying them.On the down side if they don't work on your current device then you'd have to wait for the kgo to be shipped to you while being frustrated with what you have :(
 

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TH is determined by the amount of nicotine and the voltage. PG also enhances TH and some, like myself, have found adding menthol adds a kind of TH. 3.7 volts give lots of vapor and TH.
100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping. If you use a lower res carto than it tends to drain the batt quicker. I used the Kgo for a week and it lasted me pretty well the entire day. I have 33 friends that vape and 27 of those bought the Kgo and are very pleased with it. For those that want even more TH and vapor they usually buy a VV Mod with which they can dial voltage much higher.


Would the Kgo have better throat hit because it has a 1100 mah battery vs. 650 mah battery?
 

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Hey Kaleb,

If you are looking to purchase a new system, from my experience, I have never had any problems with the Screwdriver MkII. Its battery is a 900mAh, 3.7 Volts type and the unit includes two. Additionally, the battery life of the unit is more than 8 hours, even under heavy vaping conditions. I use the unit as if I am on life support and it still takes several hours to run down the battery. It has several conversion kits available for it, and the two atomizers it includes is fairly easy to maintain. Here is a link to it if you are interested in checking it out.

JonEFive mentioned direct dripping, and he makes a good point for the alternative solution, but most cartomizers have an exposed atomizer once the cartridge portion is removed, which would not be wise to have skin near the heating filament when operating. If your brand is not high-end, most likely it will not offer customizable aftermarket products for it, although you still can find parts that may fit - I would not recommend rigging though. I noticed someone in the thread mentioning warranty concerns, but as long as your nicotine solution uses similar ingredients that are being used you will not have warranty problems, and you are usually able to find those ingredients on the packaging to compare. From my previous experiences with cartomizers, such as the Blu e-cig, most types allow swapping the cartridge component of it for refills. From owning the Blu e-cig , I eventually just found a dealer, TotallyWicked-eLiquid, that sold e-nicotine and refilled the cartridge portion of the cartomizer, which saved money in the long run. After trying some brands of e-cigs, I eventually settled with the Screwdriver MkII as I have found it most reliable and customizable.

You mention throat hit and that depends solely on the mix of the solution being vaped. Some diluents harshen or smooth the hit of your liquid. Three common ones are Propylene Glycol (PG), Polyethylene Glycol 400 (PEG 400), or Aqueous Glycerin (a diluent of Vegetable Glycerin, or VG). One thing about AG/VG is if you get pure VG, it will need to be diluted. Additionally, there are other ingredients in flavoring that contribute to the harshness or smoothness of hit and, finally, the potency of nicotine.

After doing some experimentation, if you do decide to customize your own flavors, I have learned some things that are okay and things to never use and seldom use. FIRST, never put Methyl Salicylate, or Wintergreen flavor, in or on any plastic components of your e-cig as it WILL dissolve the plastic. Call the manufacturer to verify that the atomizer does not contain plastic components if you do decide to use it, and I would prefer ONLY to direct drip if you admire the Wintergreen flavor. Another thing is some ingredients with flavors will gunk up or damage your atomizer, or, specifically, the filament. One well known ingredient is sugar based ingredients, so stay away from caramels and other sugars. There are some controversies about using oil-based flavors, but from testing, I cannot find any detrimental results concluding from their use, only that they do not mix well and would need to be mixed with the diluent and nicotine "very well" and only applied to the atomizer by direct dripping. If oil-based ingredients are being used, the atomizer will need to be cleaned after every use, preferrably with hot water. One other ingredient that has not been confirmed is acidic ingredients. These ingredients may damage the filament through erosion, but there are individuals who clean the atomizers with vinegar, myself included, so I could not say a mild level of acidicity is harmful.

As being new, there is much more to learn with vaping as the intentions of vaping is to safely draw nicotine in a vaporized form without causing harmful effects. So I just wanted to share my discoveries with you and hopefully you gain more knowledge as your appreciation for vaping grows.
 

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Welcome, Kaleb, and congrats on picking up vaping!

You got a lot of great replies here, so mine might be superfluous, but I just want to make sure certain things are clear to you.

Am I able to select different flavors than what it comes with from Hoosier?


Once you break free from vendors who what to keep you captive through either misinformation or proprietary products, you can use any juice from hundreds of vendors to refill your vaporizer. It doesn't really matter what the kit comes with - some come with a couple of prefilled cartridges , not cartomizers. You probably will end up throwing those anyway. There are many threads just like this one to get inspired on juice vendors.

I think what you have now are cartomizers - a device that contains both the atomizer (heating element) and a way to store juice (a filler that gets soaked, I assume). You most likely are able to refill what you have using any juice!

Other vaping attachments are atomizers (as hinted here, the best way to use these is by dripping juice directly onto them, see http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/66848-guide-direct-dripping.html).

The KGO kit is a very good vaping solution, and you should consider it; just as you should consider an E-Power model (these are the same thing, with the exception that they take generic batteries that you can replace).

I am nor sure, but your current device probably is indeed an Ego clone, so you should be safe to just go ahead and order some 510 low resistance cartomizers. Even if they don't fit, they will fit pretty much any other solution you'll eventually get - either a KGO/E-Power or any other "mod". You probably should take alook at the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

Would the Kgo have better throat hit because it has a 1100 mah battery vs. 650 mah battery?

Not necessarily. Throat hit is a function of nicotine content, PG content and other "irritant" substances such as menthol. Also a higher power output will give a better throat hit. Power depends on voltage and resistance. Since Ego-styles have a limited voltage, the way to increase power is to use lower resistance cartomizers or atomizers. Look for 1.5-2.0 Ohm cartos and atties.

To increase and control power even more, you'll need a variable voltage device. If you want to keep it simple for now, forget about this. If not, look into devices such as Buzz Pro / Infinity Pro, ProVari or Darwin.

Finally, expect this to be a little confusing, at least in the beginning: it is for everyone. I guess I can safely say that even if your vendor seems like an evil customer trapper (they do so by re-branding and using non-standard terminology such as calling cartomizers "smart-carts") - you got a pretty decent start with this Ego clone of theirs.
 
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Since you've already purchased this pv, I'd try a box of LR 510 cartomizers and buy some e-liquid.

Once you find an e-liquid you like with the right nicotine content for you, research other brands. By then you'll know what you like/don't like about the particular setup you have and go from there.

You may find you're happy with the particular setup you have for the time being.
 

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Elfstone,

I don't think your post is superfluous, as I have learned some things from it. I am not sure what my MkII atomizer ohms sits at, but, if reducing the ohm'age increases the vapor production, I might have to further research it, maybe possibly purchasing a 1.5 ohm atty. Currently, I have used both the stock atomizer /w cart and a Tornado tank conversion kit for the MkII and still appreciate both. The Tornado tank provides a constant drip, so I do not have to frequently add drips to the atty but it does not provide great inhalation for air flow (maybe drilling in an intake hole at the base may help). On the other hand, the standard atties for the MkII provides great airflow, but requires frequent dripping (of course, I drilled in a larger hole where the intake hole is). I have been hearing a lot of good reviews about the eGo and KGo, so I may have to purchase one or the other and test it against the MkII. Thanks again for the additional info.
 

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Thanks so much for all of the responses!!! I havent decided yet if I am going to get thw Kgo or stick with what I have. I think ill try to get some 510 cartos and see if they work! Im digging the coffee flavor from http://www.asmartsmoke.com can anyone give me some ideas for other juices I may like? I prefer sweeter flavors!!
 
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