Newbie- Questions about KGO, cartomizers, and tanks

[Alli]

I came in here a few weeks ago and I asked for suggestions about a starter kit. I recieved many helpful replies. To all who took the time to reply to me, thank you. I bought a KGO from Brent at Hoosiers. He was great.

I have been using Boge LR cartomizers. I watched a review with Pbusardo of the Smoketech 510 LR dual coil mega cartomizer. Can those damage the batteries on my KGO? I would like more vape than I am getting. I don't know what I am doing wrong with the Boge cartomizers, but they are not producing much vape for me. Maybe I need to replace them. I have been using a 5 pack for 2 weeks. Maybe it's the juice I am using.

I am also wondering if I can use a tank with the KGO. Are there problems with leakage? Are there any suggestions?

Thank you,
alli

 

[yiddleboge6]

Yes, you can use a tank. I have the vision stone, vivi nova, and the phoenix tank for my kgo

 

[sailorman]

Don't use a Dual Coil cartomizer on a kgo. It doesn't have the voltage to produce good vapor. You need at least 4.5 to 5V for good results with a Dual coil carto. They won't damage the kGo, they just won't perform.
If you want a full explanation of this, or if someone suggests otherwise, see this explanation I gave to another doubter who questioned why this is the case: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...help-me-youre-my-only-hope-5.html#post6148777

You can use a tank with the kGo. I would suggest trying the CE4+ aka "Stardust". The best ones just came out and you can get them at Gotvapes.com or Discountvapers.com. Beware of counterfeits. Those vendors definitely have the genuine ones.

You should really be getting pretty good results from the Boge 2ohms. One usually lasts around a week, so you haven't been over-using them. Maybe it is the juice. Is the VG content very low?

 

[Pappy]

I've been getting really good results with the SmokTech 1.7 XL cartos. I can't imagine wanting more vape than I can get from those. These are are ones I'm talking about:

Smok Tech XL 510 Single Coil Cartomizer - 5 Pack

I would think the Boge 2.0 would perform similarly, but I haven't used them.

 

[Alli]

I am going to try a higher vg content. I hadn't considered that before. I have been using a 70/30 blend. I am going to order some Boba's Bounty and Hype from Alien Visions in the morning. I will also purchase a couple of tanks.
I'm thinking about upgrading to a Provari.
I have been vaping for several weeks now and I went back to cigarettes last weekend. Cigarettes just don't satisfy me like they used to. After I smoked the last one, I found myself reaching for my KGO and puffing off of it. I honestly prefer vaping. What a great revelation for me!!!
Thank you for your help. You make this forum great.
Take care,
allison

 

[The_Jerkstore]

You can use a tank or dual coils on a Kgo. They will both work fine. Just stay with low res stuff. Get some Resurrectors cartos from Crystal clear vaping. They are 1.7ohm and will give you plenty of vapor and TH.
Crystal Clear Vaping

 

[sailorman]

You can use a tank or dual coils on a Kgo. They will both work fine. Just stay with low res stuff. Get some Resurrectors cartos from Crystal clear vaping. They are 1.7ohm and will give you plenty of vapor and TH.
Crystal Clear Vaping

Resurrectors work very well on a kGo, and you can use a tank. But using a dual coil on a 3.7V PV like a kgo is wrong, wrong, wrong. 3.7V is NOT enough voltage to run two 3ohm coils at the same time. All you're doing is drawing almost 2.5 amps from your battery and instead of getting a 9 watt vape like you would on a single coil, you're getting 2 x 4.5 Watt vapes at the same time. Two clammy cold 4.5 Watt vapes does not make one good 9 Watt vape. The 8 watts you'd get with the single 1.7ohm coil of a ressurector is WAY better than two 4.5 watt coils and you're only drawing 2.1A to get it. That's a lot easier on your battery.

OTOH, if you had a 5 volt battery, a dual coil would give you two coils at 8.3 watts each. That would be like running 2 resurrectors at the same time. That's a good vape. But you need 4.5-5 volts to get it.

For a little while, while your battery (unregulated) is hot off charge, it will be 4.2 volts. For that brief period before it gets to a 3.7 or 3.8V level, you'll get two coils at 5.8 watts. That's not terrible, but it's not that good either and you're subjecting your battery to almost 3 amps of drain unnecessarily. It's probably better than what you're used to in a gas station mini-cig, so you think "Wow, this is great". But it's a fleeting phenomenon, so don't be fooled. Unless you want to recharge your battery every 2 hours, it won't last. Don't use a DC carto on a kGo or any other 3.7V PV. It's a clammy vape and it subjects your battery to unnecessary strain for nothing.

 

[The_Jerkstore]

I would not say it's "wrong ,wrong, wrong" by any means. True, dual coils will drain your battery life quicker, but many people use dual coil cartos on 3.7 volt batteries. I would not call it an anemic vape. When my Kgo was my only 510 pv I used DCC tanks and was happy with the vape. I didn't like that I plowed through juice a lot faster.

If you look at youtube reviews on DCC's most of the people reviewing them are using egos or 3.7 mods. Most tanks that are 20 bucks or less come with DCC's. So my guess is, thats what the thread starter was asking, will it work on a KGO? Yes, it will work. Is he better off with Resurrectors? IMO (and yours) yes.

 

[sailorman]

It's not wrong in the sense of wrong. It's wrong as in the sense of senseless. Have you ever used a 3ohm carto on a 3.7V PV? I have. If I didn't know better, I'd say it was o.k.. If I didn't know better. Why would 2 3ohm cartos work any better? Because there's twice as many? If you want twice as much 3.85 watt vapor, put a 3ohm SC on the end of 2 egos, tape them together and vape them at the same time. At least you won't be straining your batteries.

Yes, you're draining your battery and your juice faster, but you're not getting a benefit for it. LR coils were invented to simulate 5V vaping on a 3.7V device. Then, some marketing wiseguy decided to split it between 2 coils, and it became a fad. More is better. It's still a fad and anyone who raves about their performance on 3.7V in a YT review loses credibility instantly. The only reason to review them on a 3.7V machine is because that's what most people are using. They come with cheap tanks because Smoketech makes the Dual Coil Tank, the DCT. It wouldn't do for them to include a single coil carto with it. More marketing gimmickry.

Ask a vendor if you should buy a 3ohm carto for your kGo and, chances are, he'll tell you that a 2ohm works better. Then, ask him if you should buy a DC for it, and he suddenly says yes. WHAT? Why would that be? Hype, that's why. People clamor for them and the vendors sell them what they want. Two times bad vape =/= good vape.

So, yeah, they'll work on a kGo. $50 tires will "work" on a Ferrari too. But it's wrong.

 

[froginblender]

wrong...he can use a low resistance dual coil cartomizer man...and have a fogmachine...
exhibit
a:xxxl dual coil @1.5 ohm 3.5 ml (awesome flavor and fog)
b: ego dual coil 4.5 ml @ 1.5 ohms... (all day no refill ing looks great on kgo or ego!

you can't go wrong with either of those 2 bro...been vaping 2 yrs.. i know what's up.

Don't use a Dual Coil cartomizer on a kgo. It doesn't have the voltage to produce good vapor. You need at least 4.5 to 5V for good results with a Dual coil carto. They won't damage the kGo, they just won't perform.
If you want a full explanation of this, or if someone suggests otherwise, see this explanation I gave to another doubter who questioned why this is the case: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...help-me-youre-my-only-hope-5.html#post6148777

You can use a tank with the kGo. I would suggest trying the CE4+ aka "Stardust". The best ones just came out and you can get them at Gotvapes.com or Discountvapers.com. Beware of counterfeits. Those vendors definitely have the genuine ones.

You should really be getting pretty good results from the Boge 2ohms. One usually lasts around a week, so you haven't been over-using them. Maybe it is the juice. Is the VG content very low?

 

[sailorman]

wrong...he can use a low resistance dual coil cartomizer man...and have a fogmachine...
exhibit

you can't go wrong with either of those 2 bro...been vaping 2 yrs.. i know what's up.

Yeah, lot's of cold fog. Cold 3.85 watt fog. A lot of people prefer a cooler vape, but 3.85 watts is downright cold. Laughably cold. Nobody would suggest a 3ohm carto for an ego, but all of a sudden two of them is great? There's nothing low resistance about dual coil cartos except the total resistance the PV sees. The coils are 3ohms. That's not low resistance. That's not a 1.5 or 2ohm coil in there with your juice. That's a lot of cold fog, just like the fog machine at a concert. If all you want is lots of cold fog, knock yourself out. If you've been vaping 2 years, you should know that 3ohms on 3.4V is cold and it doesn't turn warm because there's twice as much of it.

 

[02SS0384]

Lots of good info in this thread. I have a KGO as well and have settled on the Boge LR after trying out a few different, they seem to work the best for me. Just got in some Stardust V2's this week and they are great so far, I really like not have to refill so often like the boge's.

 

[Alli]

Wow. This is alot of information. Thank you.

I recieved new Boge lr cartomizers in the mail today along with a couple of new juices. (Vaporgod was great in that I paid for 1st class mail and I got my package 2 days later. Cheap and quick!) I must have boiled the old cartomizers too many times when I was cleaning them, because the new ones work so much better. I am very happy with the amount of vape and the flavors. I haven't been vaping long enough to realize that the old ones weren't working well.

I asked about the dual coil cartomizers because I misunderstood a review by PBusardo. I thought he was vaping the dual coil cartomozers with a 510 battery.

I'm waiting on packages from Ave and Vaporite. Gonna order from Virginvapor, MsTs and BB when they open back up. Then I will order the tank and the ressurector carts. Vaping good flavors is alot of fun.

btw- He is a she. lol
allison

 

[sailorman]

Pbusardo's a Boge guy. He buys them by the case I think.

 

[The_Jerkstore]

Wow. This is alot of information. Thank you.

I recieved new Boge lr cartomizers in the mail today along with a couple of new juices. (Vaporgod was great in that I paid for 1st class mail and I got my package 2 days later. Cheap and quick!) I must have boiled the old cartomizers too many times when I was cleaning them, because the new ones work so much better. I am very happy with the amount of vape and the flavors. I haven't been vaping long enough to realize that the old ones weren't working well.

I'm waiting on packages from Ave and Vaporite. Gonna order from Virginvapor, MsTs, and BB when they open back up. Then I will order the tank and the ressurector carts. Vaping good flavors is alot of fun.

btw- He is a she. lol
allison

That's funny that you talk about not noticing a burnt carto. I got a co-worker to order a KGO, He had me try a juice he really likes (his carto, my drip tip) and that Carto was burnt to hell. I told him to get rid of the carto, It's spent. He couldn't tell till he filled a new one. The guy has like 8 boxes of cartos and I think he's only used 3 cartos so far.

Don't be afraid to drip with those new juices. If you got Bobas Bounty from Ave, It is tough on cartos being 100% VG. The KGO cone works as a great drip shield.

Welcome to ecf, finding this site makes vaping so much easier.

 

[Alli]

I really don't think the old carts were burnt. They didn't taste like they burned material. Imho, they did not work as well after I boiled them 5 times. Think I will throw them away when they are spent now.

 

[liveone]

Hey Alli, I'm also from CA and want to welcome you to ECF! As you have already noticed, there's a ton of info here a lot of cool people that go out of their way to help even if there's sometimes a difference of opinion.

Good luck finding the best vape experience for you and staying off the analogs!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I found a huge difference in using SmokTech/ Resurrector cartos in my Kgo with a tank. I use the Tanks - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop because it's so much easier when refilling cuz of the side screw. Here's a PBusardo vid on the SmokTech/ Resurrector 1.7 SC cartos



Good Luck.