Newbie Vapourer on a budget

[BG101]

Hi All,

Finally found somewhere to get some much needed advice.

I've been trying to research a e-cig with e-liquid refillable and has a clear Clearomiser confused: I think) to see how much is left but I am getting really confussed on all the different parts on the e-cig and the sheer amount of different brands/versions available and can not determine the benefit to each different type.

I need 2 (me and my partner) on a budget of about £60 (£30 each).

I've been looking at the 'vape Escape Vision 1000 Ultimate' on Vape Escape Vision 1000 Ultimate [VE397] - £59.99 : Vape Escape as it comes with 2.

Would this be the best option for me?

Also, with the Clearomisers being 'rebuildable', does that mean I can just clean them out when they are dirty and will not need to continually replace them.

Many thanks.

Ben

 

[BlueMoods]

I'd get this, and a spare battery for it.

$17.93 EGO-VV 1100mAh Rechargeable Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery with 0.7" LCD - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Good price, and It is and ego battery so both ego and 510 delivery devices work on it, and it is variable voltage so, that's another plus.

I'd get a clearomizer like this:

$2.61 Mt4 1.6ml Electronic Cigarette Tank Atomizer - pink / 2.4

And a a tank like this.

$2.65 EVOD Electronic Cigarettes Round Mouth Atomizer (1.5mL) - green / 2.6

That is a run of the mill clearomizer and and EVOD tank and, will let you see which type you like better w/o spending a fortune to get started.

 

[BG101]

Thanks BlueMoods,

Looking at the images of the Clearomizer and the tanks, it the difference just that the Clearomizer can not be taken apart, where the tank can so can be cleaned.

Sorry if its a silly question.

Ben

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome!

"Rebuildable" as you will most often see here, refers to "Juice Delivery Systems" (the things screwed on top that deliver the liquid to the heating coil to be vaporized) that have an atomizer (the coil and wick) that can be rebuilt from scratch. They are called RBAs. You wrap the coil and make the wick yourself. There are several kinds, but they look similar to this:

When talking about "rebuilable" clearomizers, you are talking about clearos that have a replaceable top or bottom coil that can be screwed on without having to replace the whole device. There are different kinds, these are just examples:

Top coil:

Bottom coil:

You can rinse out non-rebuildable clearos, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Some people also rebuild coils on them, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

 

[terry w]

I agree with bluemoods on this one,

Get over to fasttech, there are a few threads on this site for any questions you may have. here is one on the uk forum http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/uk-forum/423393-anyone-here-used-fasttech.html

 

[SASmith]

Here are a few links that I have found very helpful:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...k-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

A PBusardo Video - Beginners Guide to E-Cigs and E-Cig Tech - YouTube

 

[DilligafBUZZ]

I'm new to vaping and this is great info thanks

 

[BG101]

Thanks for the advice all.

I'm now looking about on ebay as I have a idea on what I'm looking for.

Cheers
Ben

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks for the advice all.

I'm now looking about on ebay as I have a idea on what I'm looking for.

Cheers
Ben

Hi Ben

I highly suggest you skip eBay and check FastTech. At least they have customer service if there is a problem.

 

[duanedesign]

The e-cig kit you were looking at seems like a good option.
It comes ith an eGo battery. This is a very popular option. Almost everyone I know uses an eGo battery of some type. The eGo battery will allow you to attach clearomizers (or cartomizers, or cartridge and vaporizer) with 510 and eGo threaded connectors. This gives you lots of options.
Your clearomizer will be "diposable" or it will have a replacable head (often called rebuildable because you can also rebuild from scratch if you do not wish to buy the head). You will need to replace the head, or the whole clearomizer if the head is not replacable (disposable) every 3 to 4 weeks depending on how much you use the e-cig. The heads are only $2-3 so this is very reasonable.
I have been talking about the clearomizer mostly, only briefly mentioning the other options. I will discuss those briefly. This is for educational purposes as you will likely find, as most do, that the clearomizer is the preffered option. The most basic juice delivery setup is a cartridge, packed with poly-fill where you drip the juice, and an atomizer (the heating element). If you combine those two into one piece and you get the next step, the cartomizer. Drop the polyfill and add a wicking system with a tank and you will get the clearomizer. The clearomizer holds substantialy more juice then the options that use cartridges.
I know that was a very basic overview. With the other links already posted i didnt want to reiterate too much information.

 

[vernhall]

Ditto on the 'skip Ebay' advice -- their ecig section is very limited and prices are not far off B&M... Get on over to FastTech -- they got dozens of different starter kits if you want to get with a kit to begin with and a huge ala carte selection to choose from...

 

[Lunalovelace]

Yeah, you could put all your eggs in one basket, you could blow all your money on egos (in the voice of grandpa Simpson)
But later on you will want to upgrade to a digitalised vaporiser,mark my words.

If I were you, I'd rather pay a few bucks extra and get one you can adjust, for example, the itaste, $24 , so it's like $7 more than the ego..
Here's the link, same site as the ego:

$24.80 iTaste VV Voltage Adjustable 800mAh Rechargeable Battery - two digit display / with USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The good thing about itaste is you can adjust the settings, but also, there are no batteries to fiddle around with, it's battery is already built in.

Now, if you want to get even fancier, you could get a vamo off the same site (fasttech) for $28 or 31 for stainless steel version.
For $28 you get a very sturdy digitalised vaporiser that are very similar to high priced vaporisers.
You can pimp them out with nice tanks, wraps and whatnot and they can end up looking really cool..
It's kinda hard to make an ego look that cool, but that's just my opinion.

If I were you I'd pay $31 for the vamo, then pay $3 for the charger, $4 for that batteries, that's $38 total, then you just need to get a tank and juice, you can get a tank for the same site, with free shipping (everything on fasttech is free to ship) for like $4 .. So you could have a high quality digital vaporiser to your door step for a total of $42.. With is $84 total for the two of you... That is over your budget by a small amount, maybe $15 or so, but trust me, it's worth it in the long run.. Just save up another $15-$20 bucks and get the good one!
Adjusting the volts and watts is very important if you want a great vape, the juice tastes a hundred times better when you find the sweet spot while adjusting settings, I can't stress this enough! If you get that, you won't have to upgrade ever again If you don't want, the vamo already does everything the fancy shmancy vaporisers do.
If you absolutely can't afford to spare the extra $15 then I'd suggest the itaste, at least you can adjust the volts on that, even if the range is smaller than the vamo!

Good luck.

 

[flybritn]

I'm very new to vape also,.. Glad I seen this post. Will be ordering some stuff from FastTech.

 

[thefullhonkey]

It's pretty tough to go wrong with an an ego battery and pretty much any decent clearomizer.

I've found that the ego twist (or other vv equivalent) provides the most versatility, but if you're going to be limited to one battery a piece, getting one of the ego passthrough devices might be handy so you have the option of charging while you vape. If portability is the main concern go with a 650mAh option, or a 1000mAh if you want some extra battery life. The price difference is negligible.

I haven't had a chance to try too many clearomizers, but when I want something small I tend towards a ce/stardust, they're cheap and replacement heads are even cheaper. My favorite is the Vivi Nova. I've also tried the Protank, but found the draw too airy for my preferences.

 

[MrGimp]

OMG sooo much info..
feel; like I'm drowning here..
but I will stick it out.. I love vaping using my "Ismok Ecig" that the wife boufght at a truckstop, its similar to a V2/prosmoke (Ismok.com)

 

[Ms.Kitty]

Avoiding Ebay is good advice...w/the prices you'd better off at a B&M, where you would have hands on help...

I've been vaping on a small budget for 3mos., then I found ECF! lol...so much for my budget! Thanks, guys!
So many wants...so little time! ;-)

 

[INTEGRA]

Glad to chance upon this post..learned and know a lot more..thanks for all the great advice and recommendation..

 

[BlueMoods]

For a newcomer to vaping, Faastech is the way to go. It's cheap and, they do have customer service and, are decent about returns - just send it to the Miami facility, if you live in the US, I'm sure other countries have other places to send returns, as soon as they log the item in as returned, you can get a refund, or a gift certificate to buy something else at Fasttech.

It's about the least expensive place to get vape stuff and, since few stay with their first device for long, it's a good way to get enough to try a few things out and not go broke doing it.

 

[mkbilbo]

Thanks for the advice all.

I'm now looking about on ebay as I have a idea on what I'm looking for.

Cheers
Ben

I agree with the rest, don't eBay.

We do have a Forum Supplier section that's good for finding vendors in your area (or at least nearer in terms of which side of what pond ).

I see The Ocelot covered most everything already. I'll just mention I use a kit very similar to the one you linked to initially and the Vision V3 (sometimes also CE5 and other terms... lot of confusion over what to call 'em) disassemble for cleaning and replacing the coil heads (the little heaters which are most likely to wear out being heated up repeatedly) and are very easy to work with. The "rebuildable" clearomizers... well, it's probably not the right term for them. You can easily (and without tools) take them apart (they just unscrew) and parts and pieces can be replaced (also, cleaned and reused quite a number of times) but you're not really doing "rebuilding". Not in the sense vape hobbyists mean. Some folks get right down to making the tiny coils that heat the juice. That's "rebuilding".

You want to avoid the "consumable" versions. Which are disposables. You end up wasting money. The "rebuildables" save money over time since you can clean them up and maintain them. Not complicated stuff. But extend their life a great deal (I don't even remember last time I even had a coil head go out on me, it's been some months).

Also, in general, my experience is when vaping on a budget, to spend more upfront on the hardware then save money on the liquids. Good, solid hardware will last a long time. Liquids you consume. I brought my monthly expense down to really small numbers by learning to do my own mixes. Which, if you do basic flavors, is pretty easy (you can get sophisticated and do "recipes" if you want but a lot of ordinary, single flavor mixes are pretty trivial to do). Then you can buy the nicotine juice in "bulk" and cut your monthly costs way down.

Cheap hardware won't save you money. If the stuff breaks and has to be replaced frequently, you'll spend more in the long run. Get solid, branded stuff (like the kit you linked to at first is branded Joyetech which is a well known, reputable manufacturer and, in fact, I have Joyetech batteries, they're good... so is Vision, the company).

The liquids are a "consumable" and that's where you can really save money.

 

[BG101]

You cant find many forums with such helpful people. Thanks everyone.

A couple of questions.

How long does Fattech normally take to the uk? I need to order at the end of the month, then away from the 15th for a week so I dont want to get caught inbetween.
What Clearomiser would you recommend for your 1st one? ce4, 5, 6, etc, theres so many.
What is the site to B&M?

This site has been a god send.