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BTW - For a Single Battery Unregulated device like a DripBox 60w, you should stay at or Above .25 Ohms and Only Use a 20 Amp (or Better) Constant Discharge Battery.

If you build Lower than .25 Ohms, there is a Realistic chance you could Exceed the Amp Draw of a Single Battery.

So if you want to run Dual coils and use Pre-Coiled coils, you should be looking for .5 Ohms (or Higher) Individual coils.
Zoid can you explain this one for me? Because of the 2 different type of wires?
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Sorry to be "that guy" tonight, but FYI, the Dripbox 60 is regulated to 60w and comes prebuilt with a .2 ohm build on it. Not sure I'd want to go below .2 ohms anyway, but with the regulation you could do so.
I've got a raised .7 ohm build on mine for the record. Raising the coils closer to the air holes, near the top of the terminal studs, really helps with the flavor.

Just not going to Recommend or Suggest that a person do a 1st Time Build that is Lower than .25 Ohms on a DripBox 60w.

Because I question just how well the DripBox does Regulation. And I don't know where the Low Ohm Cut-Off is, if there even is one, on the DripBox 60w.

Especially to someone that didn't mention How they would be Measuring the Ohms of their Build. Or what type of Battery they are Using. Or to one who may not have understood how Dual Coil effects total Ohms of a Build.
 
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I can Try. But I'm not sure what your Question is.

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I guess I am just curious about the the 2 wires wrapped together. Does 1 dominate over the other in deciding resistance? Or they work together? And what advantages does 2 wrapped wires have over just a single wire?
 

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I guess I am just curious about the the 2 wires wrapped together. Does 1 dominate over the other in deciding resistance? Or they work together? And what advantages does 2 wrapped wires have over just a single wire?

Here is a Good Explanation of what is going on when you have More than 1 Resistor in a Parallel DC Circuit.

Electrical/Electronic - Series Circuits

Simple answer: They Do work Together. But the Differences in Wire Resistance determines how much 1 Wire "Dominates" the other Wire.

I'm not a Big Multiple wire user for Coils. I don't like the Slower Ramp-Up/Ramp-Down times that can occur when More Wire Mass is used.

But the Concept is that if you can Increase the Surface Area of a Coil, that you can Increase the Amount of Vapor (and perhaps Flavor?) that the Coil Produces.

That Clapton Style Coil you linked to would have More Surface Area due to the "Ridges" on it than a Single Round Wire of the Same Mass.

There is Also the "Geek" Factor of Coils that Look Cool. And some of the "Man Knitting" Coils that I have seen Do Look Cool.

Will a Multiple Wire Coil work Better for what you are Looking for in a Hit? Hard to Say. Only Real Way to know is to Try One.
 

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Here is a Good Explanation of what is going on when you have More than 1 Resistor in a Parallel DC Circuit.

Electrical/Electronic - Series Circuits

Simple answer: They Do work Together. But the Differences in Wire Resistance determines how much 1 Wire "Dominates" the other Wire.

I'm not a Big Multiple wire user for Coils. I don't like the Slower Ramp-Up/Ramp-Down times that can occur when More Wire Mass is used.

But the Concept is that if you can Increase the Surface Area of a Coil, that you can Increase the Amount of Vapor (and perhaps Flavor?) that the Coil Produces.

That Clapton Style Coil you linked to would have More Surface Area due to the "Ridges" on it than a Single Round Wire of the Same Mass.

There is Also the "Geek" Factor of Coils that Look Cool. And some of the "Man Knitting" Coils that I have seen Do Look Cool.

Will a Multiple Wire Coil work Better for what you are Looking for in a Hit? Hard to Say. Only Real Way to know is to Try One.
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Thank you very much..
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Hey no Problem S&S.

We talk about Dual Coils builds having a Total Resistance of 1/2 the Resistance of each Individual Coils. But that is just common Speak.

Because what would should also mention is that for that 1/2 thing to be True, Both Coils have to have the Exact Same Resistance.

And if they Don't, then you need to use this Forumal...

1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 + ...

Whereas Rt is Total Resistance and R1, R2, ... Rn is the Resistance of Each Coil respectively.

The Same goes for the Wires in a Multiple Wire Coil. Because Clearly 2 Different gauge wires of the Same wire alloy have Different Resistance.
 
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Hi everyone! I'm new to all of this and have a question. I have the KangerTech dripbox and I am looking for the prebuilt coils. Not the ones Kangertech offers but some I can just put it in myself. my question is what Ohms do I need . What kind of wire. and in what gauge. Appreciate the help!!
Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read:
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