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Kinda parallel to newme's thread, but she's upgrading, I'm new!
Basically I've got some questions, and maybe I'll be able to get a good solution without the restock, but we'll see. Quick background, was a 1-1.5 full flavor packadayer for about 5 years, been a roll-yer-own guy for about 5, guessing about the same but it's hard to compare the two ya know? I'd guess if I had to smoke factory cigs, I'd still be about a PAD, and I'd probably buy camel lights or turkish golds. Anyway, I'm sold on bloog and will be buying, so on with the bloog questions.

1. New stock arrival? CNY is over, and I've read "end of the month".
a. But for what and in what order? I saw black batteries were the first up, longs, shorts both same time?
b. What about PCC's and miniPCC?
c. Kits. Hard to tell on our end what they are waiting on, when could I order a minipcc or ultimate mf kit?
d. Much less important, but while I'm consolidating questions; juice, that gonna be rolling along the same timeline as bats and stuff, or longer I imagine?
-basically I want to quit, yesterday, and will buy a "good enough" bloog setup if it'll be a month before, say short batteries get in, but don't mind waiting a shorter period. I know, I know, I sound like a pest to myself too!

2. fusion/maxxfusion accessory compatibility?
a. Difference in fusion PCC and MF PCC? Will fusion PCC work with MF bats? Is there ANY reason to wait, and/or pay $10 more for the MF version?
b. Does the fusion PCC work equally well with the long and short bats?
c. Does the MF PCC work equally well with long and short bats?
d. What about generic 808 PCC's(ignoring the nher mini onlyPCC) which look to be the same as the fusionpcc? Will they "care" that the MF is slightly more mah than standard? And willshould they work with the short bats too?
e. Fusion chargers are cheaper than MF chargers, will they work just fine with MF bats, both long and short?
f. Generic chargers, same compatibility questions both long and short. ex, mad vapes has 901 usb chargers for only $4. Any reason I shouldn't grab a few for backups?

3. a. Passthrough, isn't sold on it's own, is that correct?
b. I only see it as part of the MF ultimate kit (unavailable) or ultimate addon (unavailable) or the fusion addon (available!). Is the PT in the F addon the same as the MF version?

4. How many carts should I buy? I'll be getting some juice to refill, but ya'll've done this before. 15 doable? 25? (btw, for you yankee's or international folks, "ya'll've" is a blatantly grammatically incorrect double contraction of the words "you all have", typically spoken in the southern US, fun to say but challenging for even the most southern of us to actually type without some degree of self consciousness!:facepalm:)

Geez, sorry for all that! Typically I would've fussed over all this privately, given up on not finding the answers, and made an impulse/frustration buy on the ultimate kit w/ fullsize batts + 2 mini batts and minipcc, only to regret overbuying later, but well I guess CNY has given me the time to actually ask! THANKS IN ADVANCE!
 

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I'll let someone who doesn't have ADD answer your questions in detail, so I will ramble some thoughts... :)
I cannot comment on the standard fusion equipment. But I can tell you one thing, the BMF cartomizers and batteries are 2nd to none.
I have the short batteries and the charge last just fine for me. I wont say how many puffs or how many hours, because it all depends on how I use them.
If you are using your own juice to refill, a single cartomizer should last you a week no problem. I would suggest buying (2) 5 packs to start out, then see how it goes, and adjust your next order from there. I think I have enough already to last me the rest of the year :)

Also, the mini PCC will only accept the 65mm KR808 batteries.

To wrap up, I would highly recommend not wasting your time with anything other than BMF Cartomizers and Batteries, it will save you a lot of money. I have a ton of equipment sitting on the shelf because I just had to try everything to ensure what was the better option. (Bloog Maxx Fusion Batteries and Cartomizers).
 

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Thanks RB. That is pretty much what I've decided, I'm defo going with BMF cartos and batteries.
It's just that without more info, I don't know if I should order something now (example 78mm red MF bats and fusion ultimate accessory addon) , or wait for the restock and get for example the PCC mini kit in black. And I think the answer to that depends on fusion line accessory quality/compatibility and wait time on the mini stuff. If the black batteries will be in "by the end of the month", thats cool I don't mind waiting, but if I wait that long only to find out there won't be a miniPCC kit in until april, well then I'd rather have the 78's now. Can ya dig it?
 

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Do you think 1/2" longer batteries will bother you? If you like'em short, then wait for the mini.
I am the wrong person to ask about the Mini PCC, because I don't honestly care for it, nothing wrong with it mind you, it just does not suit my needs. I am pretty sure the MiniPCC will be back in stock at the same time, I could be wrong though. Bloog people will be able to give you an answer for certainty.
 

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If you were over a pack a day smoker I should think youd be better of with the longer batts.. But forget the reg fusion.. Get the latest and greatest. Unless you think youll obcess over the length being a tad longer...
The diff between the reg fusion pcc and the maxxfusion reg pcc is that the maxx has the display so you can see how much juice is left on the pcc batt. Trust me that is important to know. I have the reg kr8 without display and its not being used, cus its so annoing not being able to tjeck up on battlife an suddenly running out and not being able to remember how many times you charged a batt on it.
But those types take both the mini and reg length of batts. Cus they screw in to charge.
The new mini pcc only takes the short batts. One for the longer ones is on its way, but who knows when...

I loove the mini pcc cus dont want slots for cartos.... not unless a bottle of juice could fit too. Ill still be needing that ekstra pouch for that.. The ones I have with room for 3 cartos doesnt get used... RB theres a reason our old cigpacks got flat and squashed.. The cigpack pcc cant do that....
The mini pcc is flat and easy to carry with you. So is the reg....
 
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Hi Analog and welcome!

Just to hit the main points,

1) I can't give you exact ETAs, but the Black and whites should be available mid to end of next week, with everything but the standard PCCs and the accessory kit including them restocked within the next week or two. The regular 78mm PCCs are going to take a bit longer, I'm afraid, but I'm going to try to do whatever I can to speed those up.

2) As we've found out, other models of chargers and PCCs, including Fusion, are only about 90% compatible with MaxxFusion batts. They charge properly, but the indicator lights on either one may or may not function properly. This is another issue I am working on.

3) We will have individual passthroughs, but again I can't give you a better ETA than sometime in the next couple of weeks or so. The Fusion ones are compatible, but do not have the advanced switch or optimized and consistant airflow of the MaxxFusion PT, or the telephone cord style spring coil on the USB end.
 

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Thanks guys! Hmmm, so lets see how this helps. Lemme know if any of this isn't true.

Availability
78 and 65mm batts next week. Anything else, later.

Compatibility
Maxfusion bats can be charged perfectly fine by Fusion and generic chargers and PCCs. The Fusion and generic PCC's indicator lights won't work, but the bat gets charged just as well and just as fast. Both 65 and 78 batts can be used in either PCC, but 65 only in the miniPCC.

Fusion/MFusion
There are indeed differences in (at least some of) the accessories between series. The MF passthrough has the new switch, better airflow and a coiled cord. The MF PCC has the battery indicator light.

Thanks, that helps alot, I'll digest it and get my order together.
 

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OK, so that leaves me with these:
1. Car chargers, do they come with just the car>USB female unit, or do they come with a USB male > battery piece too? Picture only shows a female usb hole, which won't charge a battery on it's own. For either the fusion or MF car charger, do you need the separate usb charger too?
2. Fusion and MF car charger is the same picture, different price, is there a difference?
3. Fusion series corded wall charger: I like it, why's it not also listed as a MF charger?

Sorry to kill it on the charger questions, I'm just thinking I'll wait on the new PCC's to be stocked, so I want charging options galore. I don't wanna have to tote the usb portion from home to car etc, just have charging options wherever I need them.
 

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THe car adapter only includes the cigarette lighter input to USB output unit, not the USB input to e-cig output unit. And the Fusion car adapter is only 500mA output, enough to power a charger, but not enough to power a passthrough reliably. THe MaxxFusion car adpater is set at 1500mA output which should power PTs.
 

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I wish everything was in stock so I could recommend the starter kit I 'pieced together' and have been very happy with.

I was a 1.5-2 PAD smoker. I got two mini MF batts, the mini-PCC, and 10 cartos on my first order. I have since ordered another battery and 15 more cartos. Plenty enough to last for weeks, with refilling. I've only opened 11 of the cartos in two weeks, and most of those were so I could sample the pre-filled flavors.

My advice is if you can wait for the mini batts and the mini-PCC, it's well worth it. I know RB doesn't like the mini-PCC, but I absolutely love it, and it's tough. Mine went flying a good six feet onto hard linoleum and works fine.
 

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I agree Frick, the miniPCC is very nice, if it held everything I am looking for a PCC to hold, it would be perfect for me. Just to be clear, I am in no way calling the current miniPCC junk or anything of the sort. It just does not suit my needs. (Frick, not saying you said I said that, just stating my thoughts for the lurkers) :)

I *think* I have found my perfect PCC, two different ones actually, will see when they arrive. If Bloog offer's one down the road that fits my needs, I would order it as well, as I am sure leaford would pick a really good one.. :)
 

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I agree Frick, the miniPCC is very nice, if it held everything I am looking for a PCC to hold, it would be perfect for me. Just to be clear, I am in no way calling the current miniPCC junk or anything of the sort. It just does not suit my needs. (Frick, not saying you said I said that, just stating my thoughts for the lurkers) :)

I *think* I have found my perfect PCC, two different ones actually, will see when they arrive. If Bloog offer's one down the road that fits my needs, I would order it as well, as I am sure leaford would pick a really good one.. :)

ofcourse the mini pcc wouldnt suit you its mini because of its compact size. i bet that one you ordered that fits 5 batts wont fit in your pocket as nicely as the mini.
 

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huh? I didn't order one that fits 5 batteries.

I actually ordered 3 PCC kits from 3 different places, no clue if they will really fit the mini BMF batteries or not, but I can assure you they dont hold 5 batteries. From what I can tell, and for the reason I ordered them, is they will hold 1 assembled ecig, 1 extra battery, and 3 extra cartomizers. Ill post in the proper forum once I get them and see how they fit, if they fit at all.
 

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Well what did you order? If your gonna ramble on and on in MY thread, you can at least share!! I've hunted around and haven't found but one style 808 PCC in stock and it appears to be identical to the bloog fusion series.

I'm thinking I'll get the miniPCC, but I'm researching rechargeable usb battery backup units to go along with it. Sort of a PCC for my miniPCC?
Something like this:
Amazon.com: Sinoele External Back Up Battery for IPhone 4 4G, IPhone 3G 3GS, IPod Touch (All Generations), Motorola Droid, Blackberry, HTC Android, Nokia, Sony Erikson, 4000mAh: Electronics
4000 mAh should recharge the miniPCC 3 times, right? So starting out with 2 charged batteries, a charged pcc, and that backup, and guessing 2.5 batteries/pcc charge, that's ummm.... 12 fully charged batteries? I'd feel comfortable with that...
 
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