Newbies, before you post negative comments...

[skinny]

plantlvr,
Yeah, why is that? SF is such a cool place, I'm the one who should be snippy living here in "LALA Land"...LOL! I agree with your post, but the title got me. Hey it did get me into reading it though, so I guess your evil NorCal, right wing, plot for one world order worked!
I think you or the mods should change the title and make this topic a sticky though, I too had questions when I started, and some may have been negative due to my non-pro like abilities that us "Newbies have like you call us.

 

[notsoogood]

It clearly states 'before' you post...not 'don't' post...

Plantlvr...I saw nothing wrong with it.

 

[skinny]

I give up, I guess "Newbies, before you post negative comments..." as a lead in for a post is not negative in meaning itself, and reading it by itself does not make people think that possibly someone is going to tell you something bad--it's just me I guess!
I do agree with the "text" though, and still think this topic would make a good sticky...just a different "title"
Last post on this.

 

[StaceyM]

Meh. Message boards: The Root of all Evil. (before Facebook, that is )

The "typed" word can be so misconstrued, can't it.

I guess some mistook Plant's post... People are on guard when it comes to the big C word.

(though I know that Censorship was not your intention, Plant. )


I for one have been "encouraged" to "speak up" about my VK complaints. I like to believe I've in turn countered the complaints with as many praises. Gripes or no, I'm a dedicated customer. I think that's what matters most! At least I hope so.

Edited to say.... I get the "negativity" thing Plant...really I do. I just think there's a difference between negativity, and constructive criticism. I know you were speaking of the "negativity" though.

 

[zdaddyl]

...please realize that this whole vaping thing is new to all of us, some more than others. It will really benefit you a lot if you research, read and do it again.vaping will never be the same as smoking and yes, you have to remember that vaping isn't and never will be the same as smoking.
But if you give it a chance you will be a lot happier, because vaping really is a lot better than smoking ever was! This is said from a former smoker of 38 years that didn't even want to quit when I started to use ecigs, I wanted a way to get my nicotine fix at work where there is no smoking allowed.
So give ecigs a chance and just take it day by day, and remember you wouldn't be here if you wanted to keep smoking

PS- Hope my editing of the title is now PC

Well said.

 

[Taryn]

My feeling is there are things that we in the forums can help with but there are things that we obviously can't and it would be best to bring it to Mark or Steve to handle. Like mistakes in an order (it happens but they will fix it, give them a chance!) or a DOA item. I know it sucks when it happens to you but call or email and give them a chance to fix it before blowing up. We are great here in the forum for user tips and support and love to hear from all the new folks!

 

[cr12]

maybe the title should be search before you post a thread, seems like all i see these days are the same threads posted over and over again,

 

[bornagainst]

holy SHHHHHHHT.

Thanks for posting this. I don't bother posting much on the subforum anymore because it's sorta all the same shizzzz.

I'd love to be able to help folks, but when you read the stuff that goes around, you tend to remain silent.

To add on, please try and read the first few pages of the subforum before posting a new topic. Believe me, I understand the excitement and urgency, but for all of us involved in vaping and those who want to help, answering the same questions to 10 threads is kinda...well, irritating.

Love ya all!

 

[Mary Kay]

This board (ECF) is about 4 years old! We are all new! I have always objected to the newbie..newbee whatever title. There was a time on here where it was very derogatory. Post count aside (so I am a chatty cathy)
I have lots to learn about my new obsession. I think questions and even some complaints are great..it clears the air and gives everyone a chance to discuss/improve the products. Most vendors have big shoulders and can take a complaint or six.
But I have to say, the people who come into a supplier forum and start acting defensive and complaining before they even have thier first dead battery or spent cartomizer need to get a grip! Take the comments intended to stir the pot to the general e-cig discussion section.
If you have a real problem..then take it up by P.M to Mark or Steve. If you have a question about how it works or what's the best flavor..ask us!
We function as a support group, a friendship group and an advice and suggestion group.
And BTW, Skinny, I am NOT referring to you! I am talking about a few trolls who were working my last nerve!

 

[newb]

Im new and not offended lol Check my thread out..

 

[CatMommy]

I am talking about a few trolls who were working my last nerve!

You need me to kick some .... MK...

 

[Adrenalynn]

Please don't apologize, Plant'

A) It's a sign of weakness
B) I can't imagine there was _anything_ there to apologize for. If someone wants, desires, yea verily NEEDS to misconstrue and misinterpret what you wrote - it's their problem, not yours.

 

[cr12]

holy SHHHHHHHT.

Thanks for posting this. I don't bother posting much on the subforum anymore because it's sorta all the same shizzzz.

I'd love to be able to help folks, but when you read the stuff that goes around, you tend to remain silent.

To add on, please try and read the first few pages of the subforum before posting a new topic. Believe me, I understand the excitement and urgency, but for all of us involved in vaping and those who want to help, answering the same questions to 10 threads is kinda...well, irritating.

Love ya all!

my sentiments exactly sir.

 

[sawlight]

While I agree TOTALLY with plantlvrs post and the idea behind this thread, I'm a bit torn at the moment on this subject.

I agree that most issues posted are minor at best, and a phone call or email would easily clear them up and a lot of these issues are just sheer laziness and "it's easier to point the finger than try to resolve it". Then when it is fixed they are shocked at how easily it was taken care of.

But I also see how we have become, and I include myself in this, overprotective of this company. We are quick to blame and chastise someone with a problem and quickly try to turn it into something they might have done wrong.
Most of these issues are easily resolved and taken care of quickly.
BUT, we did recently have one fall through the cracks, several times as I hear it. Granted, the introduction was less than flattering then things went downhill from there. As I understand it a few of us stepped in and tried, but a lot of us resorted to stooping low and inflaming the situation.
Through corespondence I THINK/HOPE? this has finally been taken care of, but it seems to have taken a lot of work by several parties to get there.
Now I am at a crossroads, I had my original notions about this person, I found I was wrong about that situation. That situation has now been resolved or is trying to be, but the spite shown has now grown deeper.
While I don't agree with some of the nastiness this person has come to, I tend to see where SOME of it comes from. I am not at all condoning or agreeing with it. I am still at this moment at a loss how to respond to the last PM's I got because of the misgivings I have about what was said.

So, I think we can not afford to alienate new members in this manner. If there is a legitimate problem we need to help them find an answer rather than berate them.
When someone comes on wanting a flame war, we need to either befriend them, or ignore them so we can hopefully avoid situations like this in the future?

But yes newbies, do a little searching and reading, 70% or better of the questions you have have been asked again and again, and answered again and again. Just want to BS? Start a thread and say hi, concerned or curious, say why. We like to talk, most of us are bored when we are on here anyways, but we tire of answering the same question twenty times a day!

OK, rant over, sorry about all of that.

 

[notsoogood]

Whew! Now, with that said.....

 

[sawlight]

Yeah, sorry about that, it's been bugging me for a couple of day now.

 

[Darrelle]

I'm a newb here, but I get what's being said & didn't take offense to any of it.

I frequent another forum (not e-cig related)and sometimes it gets old when you see the same questions asked over and over- when if the poster had just done a bit of searching they'd have found their answer fairly quickly.

Search function is our friend

 

[notsoogood]

Yeah, sorry about that, it's been bugging me for a couple of day now.

No problem...glad you got it off your chest. Also, you were right! I think there are a lot of repeats just in todays threads!

 

[CatMommy]

Search function is our friend

This is true but you have to understand, some people are not only new to e-cigs, they are new to forums.

I didn't know there was a search function on the forum for a month...And I certainly wasn't going to read through 50 pages of threads to see if my questions were asked before. I tried, I think I made it through 15 pages.

 

[Darrelle]

This is true but you have to understand, some people are not only new to e-cigs, they are new to forums.

I didn't know there was a search function on the forum for a month...And I certainly wasn't going to read through 50 pages of threads to see if my questions were asked before. I tried, I think I made it through 15 pages.

See that I totally understand and I don't disagree with you.

I understand when:
-Someone is new to forums and has no idea about the option to search. (maybe it should be explained somewhere how to search if it isn't already?)
-Someone has searched and there's simply too many threads/pages and they can't find their answer. I think a lot of us have had this happen before at least once.

But when someone knows how to search and just doesn't do it or doesn't put a bit of effort into it, that's when it's somewhat upsetting.