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[Copperhead]

Anyone catch the e-cig segment on Fox news tonight?(no comments about watching Fox news…I have a CCW permit )….Had some doctor on and the reporters "research" for the segment consisted of taking a vape off her makeup artists e-cig….

After babbling about the adverse effects of nicotine for awhile(now there’s a good argument) …He went on to say how everything comes from China, the FDA is against them, that tests had found that some contained antifreeze(that drew a big ooooooooh from the anchors….) and how they are already banned in some countries…The doctors conclusion was that e-cigs might be a good idea…but would not recommend them at this time until they are thoroughly tested and regulated(I assume by the FDA)…One of the anchors closing remark was how they were not cheep either…"They cost hundreds of dollars"(guess she thinks analogs are free)


Now I had issues with some of doctors concerns…but I’ll give him that no "official" regulations exist…I know some folks here feel different…but I personally consider it a risk…albeit a small one…At least he wasn’t calling for a ban…. But really…If you’re gonna do a report…How about actually showing one?(I think they showed a quick flash of a Blu commercial)….How about explaining how the things actually work? How about explaining e-liquid? How about having an actual vapor to hear their side of rhe story?….

I guess I’m more dumbfounded than angry….I don’t understand how this vastly growing alternative to smoking is not given a more serious and educational discussion then what I’m seeing by the media so far…

 

[TypeOholic]

One reason....

$$$$$$$$$$

 

[upStomp]

Props to the OP for having his/her CCW in a non-NH/VT New England state (I do too).

That said, it doesn't surprise me that Fox News would be on the wrong side of this issue as a knee-jerk reaction. In general, they seem to err on the side of government intervention when it comes to drug use of any kind - real facts be damned.

 

[Maast]

Its almost like somebody is waging a subtle campaign of FUD; Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt:

Seemingly isolated reports of how "bad" e-cigs are here and there throught the country becoming more and more common until "everybody knows" they're terrible for you, then creating seemingly isolated unsubstantiated rumors that they should be avoided, then casting doubt on the research that has been done to get people to ignore the few voices of reason.

Pardon me, I'm going to go polish my tinfoil hat...

 

[Bovinia]

Copperhead I think you answered most of your questions in your first sentence...Fox news

 

[5cardstud]

How much money does the makers of chantix and other products like it spend for advertisment on Fox News or any other news? Allot, now how much money does e-cigarette manufacturers and sellers spend on Fox News or any other news show? $0.00. The answer is

 

[andygee]

Sure, count how many ads on Fox (or any station) are for drugs. TV may as well be a wholly-owned subsidiary of Big Pharma. They maintain a sense of fairness and balance by also advertising bad medicine class action lawsuits like Chantix.

But anyway, welcome to the dumbfounded "way it is" club. Go try to build a stratospheric wind power facility to compete head to head with coal directly on price with no subsidy. You wouldn't get three days into the environmental impact statement process without shutting down, while coal can continue to physically kill down-wind children. You will be stopped for the possibility of killing 2,000 migrating birds per year, for example, while coal can acid-rain birds by the million. Tobacco is in, Pharma is in, coal is in, and we are dumbfounded.

 

[FreakyStylie]

Faux News he said.

Radiator fluid. Really, when are people going to get past this admittedly erroneous claim? Will the media ever let it go?

Wait until they find out that cigarettes have ammonia in them. Or that cigarettes have carcinogens. Or that cigarettes have arsenic in them. Or that cigarettes have formaldehyde in them. Or that cigarettes have cyanide in them. Or that cigarettes produce carbon monoxide. Or that cigarettes have tar in them. Or that cigarettes have freon in them. Or that cigarettes . . .

 

[TypeOholic]

Pardon me, I'm going to go polish my tinfoil hat...

You can polish them? Damn! I have just been adding more tin foil over top to keep mine looking good. I wish I would have known about the polish. My neck is sore from this 38 pound foil hat!

 

[sjrily]

Unfortunately, it's about agendas. Agendas are pushed forward by money, politics and fear - and since real journalism is essentially dead, the media has become the bullhorn for agendas.

It's very sad, especially since the general public can no longer think for itself (present company excluded, of course - we obviously DO think for ourselves, as evident by our reckless, rebellious use of these "deadly devices").

 

[Toritha]

I have an idea... lets flood our local newspapers with letters to the editor about the benefits of e-cigs and how us vapors are analog free and how much better we feel. Include numbers like how much money we have saved by switching, how much healthier we are according to our doctors. Maybe send them a copy of that report that was made by CASAA I think if they get enough letters perhaps they will publish one

 

[ryb74ii]

After babbling about the adverse effects of nicotine for awhile(now there’s a good argument) …He went on to say how everything comes from China, the FDA is against them, that tests had found that some contained antifreeze(that drew a big ooooooooh from the anchors….)

The anti-freeze claim is especially misleading. Do e-cigs contain anti-freeze? Technically, yes, but not what you're thinking.

Propylene Glycol(PG) is used to make non-toxic forms of antifreeze. It is also used and approved by the FDA in food products. Pick up a pack of bratwursts, you'll see PG in the ingredients as a preservative.

Go to the produce section in the store, the water they spray is actually a mix of water and PG to help them look fresher and shinier.

Funny still, no mention of the 4,000+ other harmful chemicals in FDA approved analogs, such as ammonia, arsenic, tar, etc.

While wikipedia is not my favorite reference, it does detail what PG is used for . . . check it out for yourself -- Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From wikipedia

As a non-toxic antifreeze for winterizing drinking water systems, and in applications where the used antifreeze eventually will be drained into the soil, water, or a septic system

 

[RedForeman]

It's got nothing to do with the network. Poisonous ingredients and harm to children makes the story sensational no matter who is telling it.

The Atlanta Fox affiliate did one of their investigative reports on e-cigs and really did a decent job of presenting facts and not introducing a lot of fiction. It would have been even better if the e-cig manufacturer rep hand't bailed on the interview at the last moment. It was also clear that this was a story about a discovery of a mall kiosk selling the products versus any actual in-depth discovery about them beyond what the dude in the mall was hawking.