News Reporting At It's Finest

[smc]

I can't think of something clever to say. This piece reduced my IQ down to far.

E-Cigarette Controversy: Are They Safe? - 10/29/09 - Fresno News - abc30.com

 

[ckc]

They really do have it in for us but the earth used to be flat didnt it.

 

[mxpowers]

Some people just need a kick in the ....

 

[IANAN]

That is some rank tripe you have there--- from an ABC affiliate no less...

Anyhow the part about flavors making it marketed to children... No offense but don't the OTC (Over the counter with no prescription) lozenges come in among others things cherry and cappuccino flavor or the gums come in flavors like Fruit Chill, Cinnamon Surge, Ice Mint, and Wint-O-Green.... Wait I know those are marketed to children also.

 

[doots]

complete biased reporting as almost all media is now days.
PURE BS

That's why the companies that manufacture eliquids need studies to prove whether or not the claims the FDA is making are true or not!

Without testing we can't win!

 

[IANAN]

complete biased reporting as almost all media is now days.
PURE BS

That's why the companies that manufacture eliquids need studies to prove whether or not the claims the FDA is making are true or not!

That was some of the ranker tripe in the article... As I understand it there were 2 lots, of many, that had the DG in small amounts in it. Most likely a QA issue-- like when that peanut butter had a little E-Coli in it. It wasn't supposed to be in there but sometimes this does happen. Saying that non-one knows what is in the fluid because two lots , which listed PG, water, flavor, and nicotine in it also had some DG is like saying nobody knows what is in your Jiff because the ingredients list peanuts, oil, sugar, and salt and the FDA found some E-Coli in some lots. Complete BS.

 

[Archer74]

GEEZ! his comment really irritates me to no end!

So when you're smoking e-cigarettes, you may be inhaling antifreeze.

That is so stupid coming from someone with a BS Biology degree. Maybe his BS degree is actually Bull**** in Biology

 

[IANAN]

My favorite part is how they said they want to hear what "you" think. Last night there was a positive vaping comment on the article and today it is gone (They deleted it)...

They don't really want to know what you think--- they are just .... well we do have mixed company here.

 

[navyboym]

This bit of reporting was nothing more than an attempt to drive public opinion. Its pretty sad to see this coming from a local TV station of mine.

 

[DaMulta]

They deleted my comment I made last night....

 

[DaMulta]

also

The Food and Drug Administration had scientists study e-cigarettes. Their report says the vapor coming from e-cigarettes includes byproducts that are known carcinogens and toxic compounds.

I really don't think their report talked about vapor only the liquid in the cart.

 

[AngusATAT]

Sorry, I didn't have time to read through it all. I'm too busy inhaling my mocha flavored antifreeze.

*PUFF PUFF*

 

[quovadis]

It's amazing that a doctor can have such a limited perspective.
To think that this guy has real patients.
He must prescribe placebos.

 

[Archer74]

has anyone gotten their hands on the full FDA report with actual figures of the test? Would there be a better chance of getting it if we where to ask our local public official to get a copy of it?

 

[LaceyUnderall]

That was some of the ranker tripe in the article... As I understand it there were 2 lots, of many, that had the DG in small amounts in it.

18 carts were tested from two suppliers, Smoking Everywhere and nJoy.

DEG was found in one of the SE carts.

This is according to the FDA. FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes

What's interesting is the FDA did not divulge that DEG is APPROVED by the FDA at certain levels... www.[B]fda[/B].gov/downloads/Drugs/.../Guidances/ucm070347.pdf

"The relevant safety limit for DEG is 0.1%, as recognized by
the USP monograph for glycerin. The Agency recommends that a manufacturer perform the identity tests, including the limit test for DEG"

 

[ckc]

They deleted my comment I made last night....

Comments are back.Did you post a new one DaMulta?

 

[DaMulta]

Comments are back.Did you post a new one DaMulta?

Yep, and I'm wondering if they will delete it again.

 

[JohnnyVapor]

Anyhow the part about flavors making it marketed to children... No offense but don't the OTC (Over the counter with no prescription) lozenges come in among others things cherry and cappuccino flavor or the gums come in flavors like Fruit Chill, Cinnamon Surge, Ice Mint, and Wint-O-Green.... Wait I know those are marketed to children also.

This just in - Nicotine patches have been found to be attractive to, advertised to children. Studies have shown that children and teens have skin that these nicotine patches could be applied to.

 

[DC2]

has anyone gotten their hands on the full FDA report with actual figures of the test? Would there be a better chance of getting it if we where to ask our local public official to get a copy of it?

Yes, many of us have read the actual report.
And we know the figures, at least to the extent they were reported.

I wish I could link you to it, but I don't know where to find it now.
I'm betting Vocalek could hook you up though.

 

[IANAN]

Summary is here;

Summary of Results: Laboratory Analysis of Electronic Cigarettes Conducted By FDA

Final Report is here;

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

The ABC story is well-- not fit for human consumption;

Real facts;

-Only 1 cart tested had 1% DG.
-The FDA knows exactly what is in these carts (It is in the report)....
-E-cigs come in 2, 3, or 4 part designs- and not just 3 part designs.
-E-cigs, as far as I know, aren't made by big tobacco companies.
-Purchasing pre-filled NJoy and SE brand carts is more expensive than buying generic cigarettes by the carton in most states and premium cigarettes in some states.

Did they get anything right??