Newsmaker: Electronic Cigarettes

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rmerriett

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I think it's actually a pretty good news cast. Pretty neutral reporting with the exception of the "They appeal to kids" parts. I think overall it sheds a positive light on E-cigs. I'm pretty sure most of us in one way or another want them to be regulated to some extent. With no regulation this business will soon be crawling with harmful products with mysterious ingredients just like Tobacco is. My only real gripe about e-cigs is that I think people are pressing their luck with them by trying to advertise their vaping, by vaping in places where smoking is not allowed. I believe the more discrete we are, the better we'll fair in the end. I mean, if your going to vape on an airplane, go in the bathroom. Don't give people a reason to protest and our chances of being able to continue vaping for years to come will be much better.
 

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Darn it! I did a search before posting...did not find anything on it, so I posted it..

One thing I think would help avoid double postings is not to change the headlines of articles when posting, so it (hopefully) would come up in a search and it would help not double posting.

PS: It looks like the first link I posted had not been posted elsewhere yet.
 
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Hope I didn't come off like the board-police; that wasn't my intention. My main reason for pointing it out was that several people had already commented in those other threads and I figured there may be interest what they had to say as well.

You're right, though, it's almost impossible to effectively search through so much content and it would be much easier if an article's headline was used as the thread title.
 

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Hope I didn't come off like the board-police; that wasn't my intention. My main reason for pointing it out was that several people had already commented in those other threads and I figured there may be interest what they had to say as well.

You're right, though, it's almost impossible to effectively search through so much content and it would be much easier if an article's headline was used as the thread title.

Don't worry, LOL...I was not upset or take it as such...just frustrated because I always try to avoid double posting any article.:p
 

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I hadn't seen the second story, but I commented on the one with the Dr. Berg interview.

The second story loses it's sound for me at the Letterman clip. Is that happening to anyone else?

Yes, the video has no sound for me at the Letterman point also :-( but when I clicked on the video below the one you are watching (with the box of e-cig in the picture) I saw the same report but the sound continued even when getting to the Letterman part.

I-Team: E-Cigarettes
 

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The second story loses it's sound for me at the Letterman clip. Is that happening to anyone else?

Same here with the 2nd video.

I wonder why the anti's keep saying "we don't know". Don't they research even a tiny little bit? At least some are not repeating the same FDA spoon fed pablum that others did earlier in the year.
Dr. Berg appeared extremely unprepared to present her case. She stammered & stuttered throughout the whole interview. That didn't bode well for her to me, and I would suspect any casual viewer might also find her unconvincing. I DO wonder why the e-cig vendor "walked off the set", though. It seemed to me that the newsperson was at least slightly pro vaping. Has to be "more to the story" we aren't hearing.
 

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Same here with the 2nd video.

I wonder why the anti's keep saying "we don't know". Don't they research even a tiny little bit? At least some are not repeating the same FDA spoon fed pablum that others did earlier in the year.
Dr. Berg appeared extremely unprepared to present her case. She stammered & stuttered throughout the whole interview. That didn't bode well for her to me, and I would suspect any casual viewer might also find her unconvincing. I DO wonder why the e-cig vendor "walked off the set", though. It seemed to me that the newsperson was at least slightly pro vaping. Has to be "more to the story" we aren't hearing.

Because they'll "never know" unless the e cig is treated like an NRT and go through the rigorous testing and control by the FDA that will produce a very expensive ineffective product that BP can market with their slick TV ads,
 

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Well, it always sounds like they're saying there has been absolutely NO testing on e-cigs and nic carts when the truth (as we all here know) is there have been several REAL studies done (not FDA) and it always pisses me off that the media can't find a single "medical professional" to admit that it is indeed THEY that don't know because THEY haven't done ANY effin research on the subject.

I'd like to ask those same "medical professionals" if they think that Fish Oil (Omega-3) or Vitamin D needs to be studied more before they recommend it to their patients. The damn FDA hasn't approved them either.
 

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Well, it always sounds like they're saying there has been absolutely NO testing on e-cigs and nic carts when the truth (as we all here know) is there have been several REAL studies done (not FDA) and it always pisses me off that the media can't find a single "medical professional" to admit that it is indeed THEY that don't know because THEY haven't done ANY effin research on the subject.

I'd like to ask those same "medical professionals" if they think that Fish Oil (Omega-3) or Vitamin D needs to be studied more before they recommend it to their patients. The damn FDA hasn't approved them either.

The FDA won't admitt to a lot of things being beneficial, even if they know they are. They are all about the money and profit ( esp. who will profit) and if it isn't going to profit them in some way, we can forget about it. To show how much I care about the fda - my Husband and I have taken Omega - 3, Omega -6, and Omega - 9 and vitamin D plus a lot of other nutritional support items for years. If it wasn'y for this, I, ( or we ) probably would not be in as good health as we are. I like to do my own reseach and make my own decisions on what i will or will not consume. I don't need the fda (or any other gov. agency) to make my decisions for me
 

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Please note that the broadcast at
I-Team: E-Cigarettes
aired several days ago, and then the same Fox 5 reporter did a follow-up broadcast at
Newsmaker: Electronic Cigarettes

I suspect that the so-called e-cigarette spokesperson (who ducked out of the
televised debate against Dr. Berg) was the same immigrant e-cigarette retail clerk
who was interviewed at the mall kiosk in the original broadcast.

Had the station truly desired an informed debate on e-cigarettes, they would
have invited someone more knowledgable about e-cigarettes to debate Berg.
 

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Right KDK. We should just shorten their name to DA since the cat's out of the bag in the last few years that they can't regulate the Food Industry. They are indeed just the govt arm of BP. Oh and how ironic it is that BP is now advertising a prescription drug that is almost entirely fish oil! (Lovaza)

Correct. Now we can get the prescription version of fish oil at the Pharmacy for $149.72 for 100 capsules instead of paying $11.99 for 120 Nature's Bounty capsules (same dosage).

Big Pharma has also come up with a prescription replacement for Slo-Niacin, a B-vitamin that helps to lower cholesterol. The vitamin version costs $15.99 for 100 of the 500 mg. tablets. The prescription drug Niaspan costs $227.66 for 90 500 mg. tablets.

Outrageous!
 
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