Nic bottles

[opticruby]

I've started stocking up on nic base (PG) and I've found these glass bottles.

5 x Amber Glass Bottles 250ml (8.8oz) with brown polypropylene PP caps:Amazon.co.uk:Beauty


Are they ok for freezing my bases?
I wasnt sure because of the cap plastic.

Also Its got a 1 year expiry date on it,is it ok to ignore it due to freezing?

Thankyou.
Mark.

 

[retired1]

Should be OK. Just ensure you leave room for liquid expansion.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

I found this thread :Freezing Nicotine?? | E-Cigarette Forum
and this search.
Search Results for Query: freezing nicotine | E-Cigarette Forum

From what I've read it is ok to freeze in glass bottles.

 

[opticruby]

Should be OK. Just ensure you leave room for liquid expansion.

Thankyou retired1. I just wasnt sure because I think they are aroma theropy bottles.

 

[zoiDman]

I've started stocking up on nic base (PG) and I've found these glass bottles.

5 x Amber Glass Bottles 250ml (8.8oz) with brown polypropylene PP caps:Amazon.co.uk:Beauty


Are they ok for freezing my bases?
I wasnt sure because of the cap plastic.

Also Its got a 1 year expiry date on it,is it ok to ignore it due to freezing?

Thankyou.
Mark.

Those Bottles should be Fine to Freeze Nicotine Base in. Here is one Tip though for Freezing any Liquid.

Pour your Liquid in the Bottle leaving about an 25mm from the Top of the Bottle. Then put the Bottles(s) in the Freezer Upright with the Cap on Very Lose. Let them sit for about 24 Hours. Then come back and Tighten the Cap(s).

If the e-liquid Contracts when it gets cold (as just about Every Chemical Compound does) or if the e-liquid Expands (which about Only thing with Water in the do), there has to be someplace for the Air to go. Else you could Crack the Bottle.

Same with if you lay the Bottle on it's side and then Freeze it. No Place for the Air Bubble to go if it needs to get Smaller. Or Bigger.

 

[opticruby]

Those Bottles should be Fine to Freeze Nicotine Base in. Here is one Tip though for Freezing any Liquid.

Pour your Liquid in the Bottle leaving about an 25mm from the Top of the Bottle. Then put the Bottles(s) in the Freezer Upright with the Cap on Very Lose. Let them sit for about 24 Hours. Then come back and Tighten the Cap(s).

If the e-Liquid Contracts when it gets cold (as just about Every Chemical Compound does) or if the e-Liquid Expands (which about Only thing with Water in the do), there has to be someplace for the Air to go. Else you could Crack the Bottle.

Same with if you lay the Bottle on it's side and then Freeze it. No Place for the Air Bubble to go if it needs to get Smaller. Or Bigger.

Thankyou @zoiDman loads of fantastic info there. I hadent even thought of the air bubble compression and expansion.

 

[zoiDman]

Thankyou @zoiDman loads of fantastic info there. I hadent even thought of the air bubble compression and expansion.

No Problem opticruby.

I learned that Lesson the Hard Way. And Defrosting and Cleaning out a Freezer is Not my idea of a Fun Thing to do on a Thursday Evening.

 

[opticruby]

No Problem opticruby.

I learned that Lesson the Hard Way. And Defrosting and Cleaning out a Freezer is Not my idea of a Fun Thing to do on a Thursday Evening.

That dont sound like it was a fun thursday nite.

Losing nic base and cleaning the fridge.

I'll definitely be following your advice.

 

[mattiem]

I have mine in some brown and some blue glass bottles with poli-cone caps. I left about 1/4 inch of head space. Here is where it probably goes into over-kill but I always say better safe than sorry. I wrapped each bottle in aluminum foil (no light is gonna get through that). Then wrapped each bottle in bubble wrap. Then used my vacuum seal food saver and each bottle went into its own air tight bag.

To answer your question. Yes, those bottle should be fine for freezing for long time storage. It doesn't actually freeze and as far as I can tell it doesn't expand like water or other liquids do so your shouldn't have a problem unless you bump unprotected glass with another bottle. That is the main reason I wrap mine with bubble wrap.

 

[zoiDman]

... Then wrapped each bottle in bubble wrap. ...

That is a Really Good call.

 

[opticruby]

I have mine in some brown and some blue glass bottles with poli-cone caps. I left about 1/4 inch of head space. Here is where it probably goes into over-kill but I always say better safe than sorry. I wrapped each bottle in aluminum foil (no light is gonna get through that). Then wrapped each bottle in bubble wrap. Then used my vacuum seal food saver and each bottle went into its own air tight bag.

To answer your question. Yes, those bottle should be fine for freezing for long time storage. It doesn't actually freeze and as far as I can tell it doesn't expand like water or other liquids do so your shouldn't have a problem unless you bump unprotected glass with another bottle. That is the main reason I wrap mine with bubble wrap.

I'm glad I kept all my bubble wrap now over the past couple of years. I knew all that bubble wrap would have a use one day.

I like that vacuum bag idea aswell,that should make sure no air will get in.

It will be a long term storage thing and I know air is a big enemy along with light.

Thanks for the info.

 

[kkiet]

I also put my bottles in a tupperware type container then freeze, double protection.

 

[opticruby]

I also put my bottles in a tupperware type container then freeze, double protection.

I'm glad you remined me of plastic boxes so I can stack them, I would have forgotten.

Thankyou.

 

[mattiem]

I forgot to say. I also label each bottle with nic strength, pg/vg ratio and date and then put that same info on the outside of the bag.

 

[zoiDman]

I forgot to say. I also label each bottle with nic strength, pg/vg ratio and date and then put that same info on the outside of the bag.

This is Another thing that is Better than Good.

It is 100% Necessary!

 

[kkiet]

This is Another thing that is Better than Good.

It is 100% Necessary!

A must to put the date and strength on forgot to mention that.

 

[Bob Chill]

Depending on strength, 250ml might be a bit big. I only keep 2-3 months worth out of the freezer at a time. With 100mg/ml strength, this is a 120ml bottle and I mix for 3 people. I use poly seal caps but have no idea if it really makes a difference.

The jury is out on how long you can freeze. I've heard 5+ years. So far in my experience, I've pulled nic as old as 20 months from my freezer and I can't tell any difference whatsoever. Good as brand new.

I have a hunch that it can go as long as 10 years (maybe more) with only marginal degradation if stored properly. There's really nothing to "spoil". Nic only oxidizes and weakens (very slowly) when exposed to air and light. I actually like my oxidized nic when a bottle has been sitting out for a few months. Has it's own flavor and plays well with tobaccos.

I don't get hung up on strength anymore. Anywhere in the 6-10mg range works fine with me. If my nic oxidizes and ends up 6 instead of 8 or whatever, I don't really care. I have some test kits but I'm going to wait to use them until after I pull a 2+ year old bottles. I doubt it will have changed much at all.

 

[opticruby]

I forgot to say. I also label each bottle with nic strength, pg/vg ratio and date and then put that same info on the outside of the bag.

All the freezer bottles are nic base 7.2% (the max I'm allowed in the UK), but I'll label them by the production dates and wether they're PG or VG.

 

[opticruby]

Depending on strength, 250ml might be a bit big. I only keep 2-3 months worth out of the freezer at a time.

I'm thinking you might be right. I was thinking of moving one 250ml bottle to the cooler and breaking it into smaller bottles as I use it.

The jury is out on how long you can freeze. I've heard 5+ years.

I'm hoping so because I'm freezing 4 years worth.

Strength I'm like you, I dont mind a few mg difference if it means I can store it over a long period.

 

[chopdoc]

I have 3 250 ml bottles, and 2 100 ml bottles in the freezer. As I use the nic I will transfer the nic in the 250 ml bottles to the 100 ml bottles for usage.
Each 250 ml bottle in the freezer is double sealed in zip lock bags. And dont worry about the nicotine exp date. I seen a couple people say they are past 7 years storing in the freezer and the nicotine is just as good today as the day they first stored it.