nic level

[Scotty Gman]

So like I've said I've been vaping a higher vg juice. It's so smooth almost too smooth. I'm thinking about a subox platinum right now I have basically the same which is the subox (white) 50w mod. The only difference is the platinum does temp control and goes as high as 60w and I believe fires lower resistances. Can anyone tell me if this is a good buy? I just feel like if I got it I would no longer use my subox because they are identical for the most part. Does temp control matter? Does it improve the experience? I'm not worried about 60w cause right now I'm using 35w and it's about the most I can handle I think. But I also know at lower resistances you can vape higher wattages comfortably. So just what do y'all think?

 

[SteveS45]

I have been with my woman for over 25 years but apparently you did not get the joke in what I said. You know that old saying about the best intentions don't you?

No offense meant and I hope you did not take it the wrong way!

 

[suprtrkr]

I'd say give it a try, but be ready to go back up if you start craving. Or you could taper into it with some 9mg. Get a bottle each of 12 and 6mg in the same flavor, and mix them.

 

[Grimwald]

I've been vaping for 3 1/2 years after a 40 year 3 pad habit. Started on cigaikes and cartos thru the normal progression to mods and subohm tanks. I'm still a low wattage tootle puffer and often use evod styles as well. Just my history.

I started on 24 mg liquid. After 2-3 months I started getting woozy or anxious and lightheaded, so began to cut back. I always ordered 0mg liquid along with my normal order so I could more easily adjust my nic level.

My journey was in steps of 3mg. 24-21-18-15-12...etc. Usually stepped down every 3 months or so. If I was woozy, I stepped down more. Cravings, went back up. I let my body tell me what to do. Funny those steps down after 9mg were the hardest (probably mental). I went from 9mg to 7.5mg to 6mg to 5mg to 4mg. That's where I am today. I've tried 0mg, not ready for that yet.

 

[Danousa]

Well, do you vape to stop smoking? Are you increasing the wattage to chase clouds? I read that 36mg vape is about the same mg as a analog. The technology I use to vape is about 3 years old and still going strong. All I suggest is look at what you want. I am glad you are asking these questions! I usually vape 12 mg WTA.

 

[Scotty Gman]

I just find it more enjoyable then smoking to the point I've stopped smoking completely

 

[sparkey909w]

I started at 18mg and went to 9 by cutting my 18 with zero of the same flavor. This happened in about 1week
Then I went down to 6 a week later. After that I started to DIY and I am now at 3.6mg. I am looking to get to zero but not there yet. My flavor got better and the peppery in my throat went away. after I went up to a subtank and dripper I stay real low on nic.

 

[SteveS45]

When you get to Zero will you stop vaping?

 

[Alter]

I hope I'm not posting too much I just have lots of questions and I kind of just post them as they come to me. I wanted to know what you guys do with your extra ejuice. I mean I never let my tank run empty so I'm always topping it up. So what do you do when you want to clean your tank and you have to remove the extra liquid. Do you throw it away or do you store it somehow for future use?

I vape it dry first then clean it and rebuild a clean fresh atty. I wouldn't pour old already heated juice back into the jug, you'll contaminate the jug and chances are the jug will go bad and be just like the juice you put into it. I hate wasting juice but sometimes it has to be done, tossing that last mil. Even drawing out the juice with a syringe and refilling the fresh atty with it, there still is that stale taste that will live for the life of your new coil.

 

[Scotty Gman]

When you get to Zero will you stop vaping?

No because I don't see any harm in vaping. Its kind of a miracle actually to be able to simulate smoking without all the negative side effects. I'm not even sure i want to goto 0 Inc maybe as low as 3. Studies show that nicotine can actually be therapeutic and as someone who suffers with an md. I find it relaxes me and makes me feel good. Nicotine is a toxin but in small doses like wine can actually be beneficial and they are thinking about using nicotine as a medicine. For example I've heard there considering it as an alternative to methadone. I enjoy vaping and tbh i would probably still smoke if i didn't have vaping because its quite enjoyable. But vaping is more so. I'm not a fan of the quitting mentality. I find its a big reason people fail with quitting smoking. And the reason vaping is as successful as it is is because it takes more then nicotine into account.

 

[IMFire3605]

So yeah I'm using a subox starter kit. I'm running the .5 ohm coil and I'm using a max vg with a few drops of pg/vg to add some flavor. I'm still experimenting with wattage but I've found it almost perfect at 32.8w. Because there's no ramp up time and the vape feels amazing. I also use an evod tank on a vision spinner II when I'm out and about. It may seem high but I find it works best at around the 4.2-.3. range. I use a higher pg in that cause it seems to wick better and seems more appropriate for that kind of tank. As far as nic level goes I was just saying because like I said I vape a lot and just want to be safe. I don't necessarily want to vape less just safer.

Okay, at that resistance coil with that wattage setting, technically with a 12mg you are actually getting close to 24 to 36mg of exposure, so technically you should be between 6 to 9mg.
Working in a vapor shop I try to direct customers to a proper nic level depending on where they stand in their cig or previous cig use, especially new vapers.
Starter level, basic clearomizer (Aspire CE5, Aspire Nautilus, Kanger Protank Class) on VV/VW Ego or similar device in the below 15watts range, Pack and a half a day cigs, 18mg, Pack a day 12 to 18mg, Half Pack to full pack a day 6 to 12mg, Half pack of light cigs 6mg, etc.
Middle tier gear, sub-ohm tank on a decent mod in the 20 to 35watt range, 0 to 9mg juice (this includes the Kanger Subbox level etc you are at), these burn close to twice the liquid a Nautilus does.
Higher end gear, example Sigelei 150watt box mod with a Smok TFV4 or a dripping atomizer in the 60plus watts range, about a 3mg max, sometimes 6mg if they are used to this level, these devices can burn 3 to 4x the amount of liquid a Nautilus can.

 

[Scotty Gman]

Oh wow I didn't know that thank you for that information. I'm actually going to buy some juice tomorrow and will go down to 6mg. As for my previous smoking habits I was smoking over a pack a day of what may be considered a light cigarette next blue to be exact king size. As for the juice I have could I not simply get a 0 nic ejuice and if I mix half that with half 12 mg doesn't that cut the nic level down to 6?

 

[IMFire3605]

Yes, you can, pretty simple math formula, 0mg + 12mg at a 1:1 ratio = 12mg/2bottles = 6mg

 

[Scotty Gman]

Interesting just for the sake of variable lets say I have a 12mg strength juice and a 6mg but instead of mixing half and half I do 2/3 12mg and 1/3 6 mg just so I better understand the formula.

 

[K_Tech]

Hi so I've been vaping for well I lost track but I think probably 2 years. Anyways I vaped different nic strengths at first because all the flavors had predetermined nic levels. But for the most part it's been 12mg nicotine and I was wondering if it's time to step it down to 6mg and what your experiences have been cutting back your nicotine.

Whether it's time or not is hard to say. Might as well give it a try, it can't hurt. I started at 24 mg and am now at 6 mg (or less, depending on setup). I had no plan to reduce my nic levels, it's just something I did just to see if I could handle it.

Any less satisfaction?

Not really, but usually every time I step down there's a period of increased e-liquid consumption. Nothing crazy, but I'd say maybe a few more ml a day. I haven't really tracked my usage in well over a year.

Or has it been better in your experience.

Neither worse nor better. It hasn't affected my enjoyment of vaping.

Does it effect the taste of your vape or anything like that?

Yes. Nicotine definitely add a "punch" to the flavor. Some describe it as a "peppery" taste/throat hit/sensation. It's definitely more pronounced at higher nicotine levels, and at 6 mg, for me, it's barely noticeable. I don't miss it or need it, some people do.

Also I say this because I vape a lot I think. The only time I'm not constantly vaping is when i'm at work. I haven't had too bad of side effects. Every once in awhile I'll get a headache which I think is caused by the vaping but it's pretty rare I think. So yeah I'm just wondering if it's time do you think?

I vape when I'm awake. Fortunately my job allows me to vape at work. Yes, you can get "nic sick" from too much vaping, and headache is one of the symptoms.

Again, give stepping down a shot if you feel up to it and see how it goes!

 

[ufosnowcat]

So like I've said I've been vaping a higher vg juice. It's so smooth almost too smooth. I'm thinking about a subox platinum right now I have basically the same which is the subox (white) 50w mod. The only difference is the platinum does temp control and goes as high as 60w and I believe fires lower resistances. Can anyone tell me if this is a good buy? I just feel like if I got it I would no longer use my subox because they are identical for the most part. Does temp control matter? Does it improve the experience? I'm not worried about 60w cause right now I'm using 35w and it's about the most I can handle I think. But I also know at lower resistances you can vape higher wattages comfortably. So just what do y'all think?

my wife uses the platinum kbox mini no complaints, my doughter got a black set 2 weeks ago kbox mini 75?W and tank no complaints on the mod

but i dont think it would be worth it to upgrade for you. yes temp control is nice but it dousnt support ss wire nor a custom setting if i remember correctly.
if you want to upgrade and play with tc i would suggest going at least to dual battery, have a look at the cuboid and the rx200 they don't cost that much more but you will really have the feeling you upgraded ;p

 

[Douggro]

Interesting just for the sake of variable lets say I have a 12mg strength juice and a 6mg but instead of mixing half and half I do 2/3 12mg and 1/3 6 mg just so I better understand the formula.

2/3 = .66 (66%) @ 12mg
1/3 = .33 (33%) @ 6mg
Equation: (12 x .66) + (6 x .33) = 9.9mg

 

[Scotty Gman]

my wife uses the platinum kbox mini no complaints, my doughter got a black set 2 weeks ago kbox mini 75?W and tank no complaints on the mod

but i dont think it would be worth it to upgrade for you. yes temp control is nice but it dousnt support ss wire nor a custom setting if i remember correctly.
if you want to upgrade and play with tc i would suggest going at least to dual battery, have a look at the cuboid and the rx200 they don't cost that much more but you will really have the feeling you upgraded ;p

Thank you both look great i give the edge for power and battery life to the rx200 but for size and appearance the cuboid but the price difference where i buy is only 10$ more for the rx. So I'm thinking the cuboid but not sure. The power is plenty @150w which i doubt I'd go that high anyways. And i can always keep a spare set of batteries charged. So what do you think?

 

[ufosnowcat]

Thank you both look great i give the edge for power and battery life to the rx200 but for size and appearance the cuboid but the price difference where i buy is only 10$ more for the rx. So I'm thinking the cuboid but not sure. The power is plenty @150w which i doubt I'd go that high anyways. And i can always keep a spare set of batteries charged. So what do you think?

if you do the fimware upgrade on the quboid it dous 200W for a limited ohm range, i have it myself and am loving it
i do also have an extra set off batteries 1 set dousnt last a full day fo me (but thats with the smok tfv4 80-100W)
for some reason the batteries and juice dain faster at 80+ W ;p

 

[Scotty Gman]

So nic strength is 1mg/1ml right. So if I have using the equation above 1/4 12mg juice and 3/4 6mg juice (did it backwards before. Then by my math that's 4.5mg of nicotine but if my tank is 4.5ml then don't I have to multiply the 2 to get the full nic content in the tank.