Nichrome vs. Kanthal

[bender817]

Could someone please explain the differences of Nichrome and Kanthal? I've been using 28 gauge kanthal for a while and saw the nichrome on madvapes. I would like to know more before I order some.

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[NicoHolic]

For any given gauge, nichrome 60 is lower resistance per inch than Kanthal A1. I find the nichrome gives a sharper, crisper, maybe tangier vape, with Kanthal being smoother. The only place I use it (26 AWG) is on an 8-wrap 1/16" micro coil to get 0.5Ω instead of 0.6Ω.

 

[bender817]

Ok that makes sense. I make alot of micros and nanos. I bet it would make a sweet nano in a protank.

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[pdib]

it gives some people a sore throat. (not, me, I like it better than kanthal). don't buy a mile until you know whether you take to it or no.

 

[bender817]

Ok awesome. I'll ask around and see if I can buy some off a friend. Is the big stuff more responsive? I did a six wrap with .8 kanthal ribbon in my rsst and it heated really slow even at 6v.

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[NicoHolic]

For a given resistance, you'll need to use more length of the thicker (lower number) gauge wire, so it gains mass in both cross-sectional area and length. More mass equals slower heat up. However, this also increases the wire to wick to juice contact area, spreading the heat over a larger area of wick, keeping the temperature at any given point lower. This allows moving to lower resistance without burning. You try to strike a balance between this and heat up time.

 

[pdib]

You can get 10' lengths to try it here . . . .Jacobs Online Nichrome & Rene 41 Wire . . . . .free shipping last I checked.

 

[bender817]

Thank you.

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[JeremyR]

Thanks pdib

 

[pdib]

Yeppers . . . .

 

[Inside_English]

If a 0.8 Ohm single coil is not heating up fast at 3.7V you most likely have a problem. If you aren't getting performance at a higher voltage, you should check the device you are using because you are most likely maxing out on draw from your battery or device.

 

[bender817]

It wasn't .8ohm. It was .8mm x .1mm kanthal a1 ribbon @ 1.6 ohms. 1/8" id at 6 wraps. I don't have a device to fire a .8 ohm coil at 6v... yet... lol

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[smillett_vox]

Right now I have built a .4 ohm 7/8 wrap dual microcoil with 24ga nichrome 60. When I dry burn with no wick, it seems to heat up a little slowly but evenly and pretty damn hot. When I take a draw, though, I feel like it heats up slowly at first and then kicks in real quick and gets real hot and blows plumes once it does. I'm not saying I have to ramp it up but it just takes a second for it to really kick in. I like nichrome over kanthal because I don't like the idea of heating aluminum up too hot and inhaling it because hot aluminum creates a noxious gas. But nichrome I feel is a much smoother vape.

 

[JeremyR]

I assume you have a 20 or 30 amp battery for the 10.5 amp load. have you done one like that with kanthal and noticed faster heat up? That's a large mass of wire. Sounds like a pretty sick build.

 

[smillett_vox]

I've tried similar builds with kanthal but never 24ga kanthal. Also the 28ga heats up faster than nichrome but I seem to get the best throat hit and flavor with tons of vapor from the 24ga nichrome. Not much of a difference at all except the kanthal cracks and pops more. I like that it doesn't crack and pop, though cause then I don't get screaming hot juice on my lips and hands. As far as building with nichrome though, it's a bit tougher than kanthal because of its nickel content and 24ga is like bending paper clips. Nichrome also has lower resistance per inch than kanthal so you can get an extra wrap or so and still end up with the same resistance as a smaller kanthal coil.

 

[smillett_vox]

I assume you have a 20 or 30 amp battery for the 10.5 amp load. have you done one like that with kanthal and noticed faster heat up? That's a large mass of wire. Sounds like a pretty sick build.

That's what the build looks like. And yes, I use Sony US18650VTC4 30a only. I mainly do microcoils so I got used to using 28ga kanthal to do it and it heats up faster, but the coils have to stay small or else the resistance gets too high to be up to my clouding standards.