can u smoke this stuff like a regular cig? Like 14 puffs, put it down and smoke another one 40 mins later etc. I dont really know if im getting the right nicotine. or not. is there any tips peopel can give?
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Everyone seems to do it differently. Some smoke it constantly....some put it down then pick it up again when the urge strikes...some smoke it for a while then have an analog, etc. It really all depends on your individual need.
Personally, I still want to smoke too many analogs regardless of how much I vape so I don't think I'm getting enough nic. I'm bumping up to the next higher mg level. I'm hoping I won't crave analogs as much then.
But of course, I don't want to overdose on nic either
Lu
Personally, I still want to smoke too many analogs regardless of how much I vape so I don't think I'm getting enough nic. I'm bumping up to the next higher mg level. I'm hoping I won't crave analogs as much then.
But of course, I don't want to overdose on nic either
Lu
What you need to do is work out how much nicotine you were getting from cigarettes each day.
So How many did you smoke a day and multiply by the nic content on the packet.
Then decide how much vaping you will do 1ml 2 ml etc.
I have gone down fron 18 mg to 14mg liquid and am vaping around 2.5ml juice a day so total nic consumption per day 35mg.
In theory.
The more you want to vape the lower the nic content of the juice or carts should be.
If you want to only vape for a few minutes each hour then higher nicotine may be a better solution.
So How many did you smoke a day and multiply by the nic content on the packet.
Then decide how much vaping you will do 1ml 2 ml etc.
I have gone down fron 18 mg to 14mg liquid and am vaping around 2.5ml juice a day so total nic consumption per day 35mg.
In theory.
The more you want to vape the lower the nic content of the juice or carts should be.
If you want to only vape for a few minutes each hour then higher nicotine may be a better solution.
I seem to have 3 habits that each requires a slightly different solution.
Has I am sit here like now at the computer vaping can be continuous. It was the same with tobacco, I just chain smoked. So now I am using 18mg juice approx 2 drops to 3 drops of menthol glycerine. Some of the time I am just dripping the zero nicotine menthol flavoured glycerine. On other occasions like last night whilst out for a meal I had to keep the nicotine cravings happy, or when I am just generaly getting on with things, it's 18mg juice, a couple of hefty puffs every 20 mins and we were content. The last one is the pleasure smoke. There were not many a day has a tobacco smoker but they are good. The one with a cup of tea on a morning, after a good meal etc. This is where the combination of flavour and nicotine content gets important. I am finding different methods of doing this; examples are French pipe flavour using a screwdriver and good brandy at the end of the day. That’s right up there with a top cigar and good brandy. This is really an interesting ongoing research and will all depend on personal preferences. But what is suprising is that the e-cigs and juices are doing it.
Has I am sit here like now at the computer vaping can be continuous. It was the same with tobacco, I just chain smoked. So now I am using 18mg juice approx 2 drops to 3 drops of menthol glycerine. Some of the time I am just dripping the zero nicotine menthol flavoured glycerine. On other occasions like last night whilst out for a meal I had to keep the nicotine cravings happy, or when I am just generaly getting on with things, it's 18mg juice, a couple of hefty puffs every 20 mins and we were content. The last one is the pleasure smoke. There were not many a day has a tobacco smoker but they are good. The one with a cup of tea on a morning, after a good meal etc. This is where the combination of flavour and nicotine content gets important. I am finding different methods of doing this; examples are French pipe flavour using a screwdriver and good brandy at the end of the day. That’s right up there with a top cigar and good brandy. This is really an interesting ongoing research and will all depend on personal preferences. But what is suprising is that the e-cigs and juices are doing it.
I used exactly the same calculation Keef has suggested - I was 30/day Marlboro at 0.8mg a time. Result - 24mg. After the initial first few days of going a bit mad with my first e-cig trying all the flavours we'd got etc, I'd checked out how much liquid I seemed to use in a day and it came out around 1ml of 18mg juice, and some of that diluted with glycerine and/or a menthol/vodka mixture I'd been playing around with to see what it was like.
I reckon this probably explained why about a week or so after getting my e-cig, at times I just WANTED a 'real' cig. So I had one (stocks to use up) and still doing 3/4 a day. I wasn't getting as much nicotine as I was accustomed to. As I'm a long-standing nic junkie with no real desire to lose my addiction but a strong desire to give up tobacco, decided to get some of the 36mg 'strong stuff' to play around with. A little original nervousness about this (what if I like it too much? Use it too much and actually increase my tolerance level?) seems to have been unfounded.
Still early days for me, a month into it now, but I have decided that having some of the 36mg around isn't a bad thing after all. If I want to vape away without paying too much attention ('till the battery dies!) I'll use the lower strength which we've still got or a diluted mix of the stronger stuff. Cost effective, too.
I will admit that the 'strong stuff' is tempting, and what I've done about that so far is add a drop or two - no more - onto a cartridge I'm topping off with something else when I fancy a bigger nic hit. I would say that practice DOES seem to result in my not wanting to keep sucking away on the e-cig virtually continuously, which I do tend to do quite a lot. I can put it down and forget about it for a bit. For instance, sitting here in front of the pc composing posts (I'm doing waaaay too much of THIS!) I'll be drawing on the e-cig every couple of minutes or so, ditto watching TV. It's in my hand ALL the time.
However, when I go downstairs for our meal a bit later, I'll probably top up my cart and include my couple of drops of 36mg and really savour that 'after you've eaten' puff we all enjoy so much. Then I'll put it down and leave it there for a bit.
Apart from that, I don't find I'm vaping the same way as I was smoking at all. I cannot judge what equates to 'one' cigarette to any degree. It just isn't the same thing. The e-cig can be very variable too - new cart/half empty cart/nearly dry cart, new battery/getting tired battery etc mean I find it pretty much impossible to gauge. So - I'll carry on keeping an eye on how many ml a day I'm using, not to a manic degree though, and hopefully carry on enjoying my splendid new toy!
I hope you enjoy yours too Paladinx, and likewise the forum. I guarantee you won't regret having found it!
I reckon this probably explained why about a week or so after getting my e-cig, at times I just WANTED a 'real' cig. So I had one (stocks to use up) and still doing 3/4 a day. I wasn't getting as much nicotine as I was accustomed to. As I'm a long-standing nic junkie with no real desire to lose my addiction but a strong desire to give up tobacco, decided to get some of the 36mg 'strong stuff' to play around with. A little original nervousness about this (what if I like it too much? Use it too much and actually increase my tolerance level?) seems to have been unfounded.
Still early days for me, a month into it now, but I have decided that having some of the 36mg around isn't a bad thing after all. If I want to vape away without paying too much attention ('till the battery dies!) I'll use the lower strength which we've still got or a diluted mix of the stronger stuff. Cost effective, too.
I will admit that the 'strong stuff' is tempting, and what I've done about that so far is add a drop or two - no more - onto a cartridge I'm topping off with something else when I fancy a bigger nic hit. I would say that practice DOES seem to result in my not wanting to keep sucking away on the e-cig virtually continuously, which I do tend to do quite a lot. I can put it down and forget about it for a bit. For instance, sitting here in front of the pc composing posts (I'm doing waaaay too much of THIS!) I'll be drawing on the e-cig every couple of minutes or so, ditto watching TV. It's in my hand ALL the time.
However, when I go downstairs for our meal a bit later, I'll probably top up my cart and include my couple of drops of 36mg and really savour that 'after you've eaten' puff we all enjoy so much. Then I'll put it down and leave it there for a bit.
Apart from that, I don't find I'm vaping the same way as I was smoking at all. I cannot judge what equates to 'one' cigarette to any degree. It just isn't the same thing. The e-cig can be very variable too - new cart/half empty cart/nearly dry cart, new battery/getting tired battery etc mean I find it pretty much impossible to gauge. So - I'll carry on keeping an eye on how many ml a day I'm using, not to a manic degree though, and hopefully carry on enjoying my splendid new toy!
I hope you enjoy yours too Paladinx, and likewise the forum. I guarantee you won't regret having found it!
Im not sure the calculations. say I get an 8mg cartridge. Thats 8 mgs of nicotine per cartridge. Then i would have to find out how many puffs that cartridge is right? So lets say a cartridge is half a pack of cigs. So if i smoke 2 cartridges of 8mg. Ill be getting 16mg nicotine. Im about a 30 cig a day smoker of parilament light. So im guessing i am getting about 30 mgs of nicotine from real cigs?
I think the per day calculation is the only way to really do it, and even then it won't be perfect.
I'm going to purchase my first e-cig sometime this week and am concerned about the amount of nicotine I should get. I typically smoke 1 pack of Parliament Ultra Lights per day. Should I get the low nicotine cartridges or medium?
Also do the pros here think that I should buy the starter kit for the 901 or holdout for the new Janty Dura? I was hoping that Janty would give out some info on their new design but not much has been leaked.
Thanks for the advice.
Also do the pros here think that I should buy the starter kit for the 901 or holdout for the new Janty Dura? I was hoping that Janty would give out some info on their new design but not much has been leaked.
Thanks for the advice.
Paladinx, (like that handle) I think you may have a problem trying to work this out if you are only using prefilled cartridges. Different e-cig models' cartridges have different capacities, think I've seen figures given elsewhere in the forum as something like: (don't quote me on this, I'm not positive)
1ml for a penstyle cart
0.5ml for a mini cart
0.3ml for a supermini cart
As there is always some liquid left in a cartridge when it is no longer usable and opinions vary as to how much that is, it'll be very difficult to tell how much liquid you have actually used.
I'm using liquid to refill/top up my cartridges (using a small 3.7ml sampler bottle, won't work with a 30ml bottle!) which is how I think I'm getting a rough idea of how much liquid per day I'm using, though Gabby's right - it won't be perfect. Also I find I don't actually vape an e-cig the same way I'd smoke a tobacco cigarette. I take a preliminary puff or two to get it going/warm up the atomiser, then often several longer draws (3 or 4) to get a real 'lungful' of vapour. So counting puffs doesn't exactly work out either.
As for how much nicotine you've been getting with the 'real' cigs, isn't there a nicotine rating on the packet? You haven't said whereabouts you're located (you can change that by editing your profile if you want, can be useful) but I thought it was pretty much global these days. I'm not familiar with Parliament Lights so guessing your not in UK. If you can find a rating on the pack then multiply it by your 30 cigs and there you go - it is a 'per cigarette' measurement. Again, it still isn't going to be perfect - if you leave very long stubs it is probably less. Here in the UK 'Light' usually means 'less nicotine' - some of them are practically fresh air. My full strenth Marlboro 100's are rated at 0.8mg so I'd expect yours to probably be less than that, but I could be wrong.
If you've only recently acquired your e-cig it wouldn't be surprising if you have overdone it to start with anyway - I did, it's a new toy! That was why I left it till I'd got over the first few days before I even tried to work anything out. To be honest, I'm not even all that worried if I am doing a bit more nicotine - still better that than all the tar and other gunk you get from tobacco.
An awful lot of the folk here actively prefer vaping to smoking, I hope you'll stick with it and enjoy it. If you end up tobacco-free or just reduce the number you smoke - I have, a lot - it is still a very worthwhile idea to try out.
PS Enzo - hi, most of the above will apply to you too. You've posted while I was typing this out! I started with a DSE901b, lots of people reckon it is a good starter.
1ml for a penstyle cart
0.5ml for a mini cart
0.3ml for a supermini cart
As there is always some liquid left in a cartridge when it is no longer usable and opinions vary as to how much that is, it'll be very difficult to tell how much liquid you have actually used.
I'm using liquid to refill/top up my cartridges (using a small 3.7ml sampler bottle, won't work with a 30ml bottle!) which is how I think I'm getting a rough idea of how much liquid per day I'm using, though Gabby's right - it won't be perfect. Also I find I don't actually vape an e-cig the same way I'd smoke a tobacco cigarette. I take a preliminary puff or two to get it going/warm up the atomiser, then often several longer draws (3 or 4) to get a real 'lungful' of vapour. So counting puffs doesn't exactly work out either.
As for how much nicotine you've been getting with the 'real' cigs, isn't there a nicotine rating on the packet? You haven't said whereabouts you're located (you can change that by editing your profile if you want, can be useful) but I thought it was pretty much global these days. I'm not familiar with Parliament Lights so guessing your not in UK. If you can find a rating on the pack then multiply it by your 30 cigs and there you go - it is a 'per cigarette' measurement. Again, it still isn't going to be perfect - if you leave very long stubs it is probably less. Here in the UK 'Light' usually means 'less nicotine' - some of them are practically fresh air. My full strenth Marlboro 100's are rated at 0.8mg so I'd expect yours to probably be less than that, but I could be wrong.
If you've only recently acquired your e-cig it wouldn't be surprising if you have overdone it to start with anyway - I did, it's a new toy! That was why I left it till I'd got over the first few days before I even tried to work anything out. To be honest, I'm not even all that worried if I am doing a bit more nicotine - still better that than all the tar and other gunk you get from tobacco.
An awful lot of the folk here actively prefer vaping to smoking, I hope you'll stick with it and enjoy it. If you end up tobacco-free or just reduce the number you smoke - I have, a lot - it is still a very worthwhile idea to try out.
PS Enzo - hi, most of the above will apply to you too. You've posted while I was typing this out! I started with a DSE901b, lots of people reckon it is a good starter.
I think in the US they get them stronger than here. I'm sure I read the other day their "full flavored" cigarettes have 15mg tar plus. In fact they seem to be getting weaker all the time in the UK. I'm sure when I used to smoke Marlboro Lights 100's (it's what my friends Dad had in his stash, when I was about 13!!) they had that around the 0.8mg level. The reds used to have well over a milligram of nic IIRC.
Papa, I think you're right. My Marlboro's used to have 1.1mg nicotine but I too think they've been cutting it down over the last few years. A bell rings quietly in my head about the EU having something to do with this, (not just Philip Morris trying to protect/increase their market with their tame addicts - us) may have been something about no cigarettes to have over 1.0ml, or possibly something about the tar levels and if you cut them down the nic drops as well.
If Paladinx is indeed in the States, I am very likely wrong. Not a unique occurrence! Still think they do have nic rates on their boxes, though? The principle still works, if he can find out the rate x his 30/day that gives the daily intake, but could be affected by (eg) leaving very long stubs.
If Paladinx is indeed in the States, I am very likely wrong. Not a unique occurrence! Still think they do have nic rates on their boxes, though? The principle still works, if he can find out the rate x his 30/day that gives the daily intake, but could be affected by (eg) leaving very long stubs.
yes I am from the united states, and there is no label on nicotine content.
I appreciate all the tips and advice. I guess im testing the 901 product out. I cant say im completely satisfied with it. Im very much used to smoking cigarettes. And this one tastes very sweet, and it seems like u gotta puff your brains out with long ... drags to get smoke. The catridges also seem to die out real fast. dont really undstand w hy they make the catridges so tiny.
I dont know. Plus who knows how healthy this stuff really is. I mean tobacco usually takes years and years of abuse to kill you, this stuff might even kill u sooner, who the hell really knows.
I guess i have one last question. theres a lil hole on the atomizer. Do you guys cover that hole when u drag or leave it open?
Im gonna give this a couple more days, if id ont like it, ill sell it to anyone who is interested. I just received it yesterday. 2 batteries, two atonomizers. and i got like 8 sealed cartridges if anyone wants it and a bottle of juice. A charger chord and all that stuff as well.
regards
I appreciate all the tips and advice. I guess im testing the 901 product out. I cant say im completely satisfied with it. Im very much used to smoking cigarettes. And this one tastes very sweet, and it seems like u gotta puff your brains out with long ... drags to get smoke. The catridges also seem to die out real fast. dont really undstand w hy they make the catridges so tiny.
I dont know. Plus who knows how healthy this stuff really is. I mean tobacco usually takes years and years of abuse to kill you, this stuff might even kill u sooner, who the hell really knows.
I guess i have one last question. theres a lil hole on the atomizer. Do you guys cover that hole when u drag or leave it open?
Im gonna give this a couple more days, if id ont like it, ill sell it to anyone who is interested. I just received it yesterday. 2 batteries, two atonomizers. and i got like 8 sealed cartridges if anyone wants it and a bottle of juice. A charger chord and all that stuff as well.
regards
Woah there dont be so hasty.
I did not like the carts that came with the kit, far to sweet left a sugary residue round my lips, I took about 3-4 draws and ditched them.
They are also usually mixed strength from zero to High Nic, so while one will satisfy you the next might give you zilch.
On the Juice I ordered 2 with my first kit....
Hilton which I hated.
555 which I loved.
Neither were anything like cigarettes.
The best idea is to forget about Tobacco and look for a flavour you like.
What Juice did you get ?
Have you been topping up the cart regular with it ?.
If a cart is empty I put about 5 drops in and vape a bit when the vapour starts to die off
I top up the cart with about 2-3 drops of juice(depends on the drop size) get around 6- 7 good draws and then top up again.
The important thing is to keep the end of the cart moist as that is the part near the heater in the atomiser.
Even if you had a huge cart, if the end is not moist you won`t get vapour.
You take 2 short primer puffs first to heat the atomiser more like sucking a pipe than a cig and then a long slow steady draw to inhale.
I did not cover the hole on my 901 when I was using it, that would make it hard to draw on and also makes the atomiser vey hot.
I did not like the carts that came with the kit, far to sweet left a sugary residue round my lips, I took about 3-4 draws and ditched them.
They are also usually mixed strength from zero to High Nic, so while one will satisfy you the next might give you zilch.
On the Juice I ordered 2 with my first kit....
Hilton which I hated.
555 which I loved.
Neither were anything like cigarettes.
The best idea is to forget about Tobacco and look for a flavour you like.
What Juice did you get ?
Have you been topping up the cart regular with it ?.
If a cart is empty I put about 5 drops in and vape a bit when the vapour starts to die off
I top up the cart with about 2-3 drops of juice(depends on the drop size) get around 6- 7 good draws and then top up again.
The important thing is to keep the end of the cart moist as that is the part near the heater in the atomiser.
Even if you had a huge cart, if the end is not moist you won`t get vapour.
You take 2 short primer puffs first to heat the atomiser more like sucking a pipe than a cig and then a long slow steady draw to inhale.
I did not cover the hole on my 901 when I was using it, that would make it hard to draw on and also makes the atomiser vey hot.
Thank you for the tip, I will try it out. I have no idea what juice this is, Or how strong it is. I believe i ordered medium strength but the girl told me its high strength. have no idea how many milligrams or what flavor. I got everything from the smokelessshop. the liquid says.
Kick, e- tobacco road liquid. but thats it.
I think i put on my order, either plain flavor or 555, and left the decision up to her.
I notice one of the ingredients in it is alcohol. I cant say im too pleased with that. Alcohol is not the best thing to inhale, and also alcohol is known to be a catalyst for cancer. That is why heavy drinking and smoking can cause throat cancer.
I probably sound like a whinny ..... lol. Im just a frustrated newbie that doesnt know what they are doing fully yet.
But this forum is pretty cool. U get responses very quick and everyone is willing to help you out. so I appreciate that and will listen to the advice given
Kick, e- tobacco road liquid. but thats it.
I think i put on my order, either plain flavor or 555, and left the decision up to her.
I notice one of the ingredients in it is alcohol. I cant say im too pleased with that. Alcohol is not the best thing to inhale, and also alcohol is known to be a catalyst for cancer. That is why heavy drinking and smoking can cause throat cancer.
I probably sound like a whinny ..... lol. Im just a frustrated newbie that doesnt know what they are doing fully yet.
But this forum is pretty cool. U get responses very quick and everyone is willing to help you out. so I appreciate that and will listen to the advice given
Back again! First, an apology - for some non-existent reason I apparently convinced myself that Paladinx was a 'male' handle and it seems that yet again I was wrong. Ah well, has happened to me too and if it's the worst thing that happens this week, I ain't got too much to worry about, have I? 
First up, the alcohol/cancer issue: confess I'd never heard of this so Googled it and it seems this is a fairly new but scientifically founded idea. And of course it is founded on DRINKING the stuff, not vaping! It does however seem that heavy or excessive drinking is the worst. Another thing I've learnt courtesy of the ECF - thanks. A small amount of alcohol has a very small risk factor, and in fact can protect to some extent against heart disease - also scientifically proven and rather better known. Even if you vaped 5ml a day (and that would be heck of a lot), it would be a TINY amount of liquid, a teaspoonful in fact - and only a proportion of that is alcohol. Myself, after the number of years I've been poisoning myself with tobacco, I rather feel that getting all concerned about a (pretty small) risk from alcohol would be hypocritical of me.
Next up: cartridge ingredients - assume the PG (propylene glycol) may be what you're most concerned about. Some of the research and references you can find more or less contradict each other, and rather than harm some indicate there can be beneficial side-effects as it has some anti-bacterial and anti-viral effects when inhaled - studies have been done which show this.
However, you're not alone and there's a fairly easy solution - in the US you have a juice supplier called Johnson Creek. Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America They manufacture their own juice, in the States. They are registered with the FDA. Not quite sure why, as I'd understood that e-juice falls into neither the FDA's area of remit as it is not a drug or a foodstuff, nor the ATF as it contains no tobacco. Hence the fussing of the bureacrats, no-one has decided who should take responsibility for it. Anyway, they are - probably just to reassure their customers that their production facilities and practices are up to the FDA's standards. Which you really can't necessarily be positive about with Chinese suppliers.
Even better, in response to these concerns amongst e-cig users, they also produce non-PG versions of all their various flavours. If you click on any product it immediately offers a choice of 'PG' or 'NPG'. The carrier in the NPG is probably glycerine which many here on the forum including myself use to dilute liquids ourselves. Does still contain some alcohol though, I think. Drop them an email to ask.
Back to what I thought was your main concern: the nicotine content. Seems as if you purchased from one of the most well-regarded US suppliers discussed here in the forum, The Smokeless Shop. I'm fairly sure the lady who runs it is Jane, and she has been highly praised for her helpfulness and service many times. If you contact her she will almost certainly be willing and happy to discuss your concerns, look up your order to see exactly what strength juice you have purchased (doesn't it say on your invoice or delivery note?) give you good advice, and may possibly know exactly how strong your Parliament Lights are in mg.
You may have noticed, lots of us here are pretty evangelical about this (odd, really, I can't stand religious types who do this!). You don't sound whiny, just someone who isn't quite sure yet if this is a good idea or not. Perfectly reasonable attitude for an intelligent person to take. Most of us here seem to think that as opposed to smoking tobacco, which is definitely known to be really, really bad for you, e-cigs are worthwhile giving a good go. Some have quit nicotine as well as tobacco using them but still vape because they enjoy it.
It is only the suppliers who aren't allowed to say e-cigs are NRT and can help you quit. There is plenty of evidence here in the forum to show that folk can and have used e-cigs to reduce or stop smoking if that is their choice. If you've only just got yours, do stick with it a bit until you've given it a fair chance. If you don't like the flavours you've got, try something else - there's masses of choice. JC do an ace taster pack, (in PG or NPG versions) for instance - we got one ourselves. Didn't like them all, but some we did.
What else - oh,yes - hard work puffing. We bought two 901's, one was an easy draw and the other I dubbed the 'keep-fit' e-cig. I had that one and let my partner have the easy one - he's only a guy (and I love him so!). After using it for a while either it got easier or I got used to it and stopped noticing. Still varies a bit, but I think they all do. Little electronic gizmos with their own individual personalities, that's e-cigs for you.
Coming to a close - Soot's advice is all good, in my admittedly limited experience; one month so far. Much shorter too! Use this forum, look round and you'll find so much useful advice and debate you wouldn't believe it. Final tip, which I found yesterday from a UK supplier who doesn't even sell juice but does use it himself (!), about refilling cartridges. Drop some in, let it sit for maybe 10 mins, then put a few more drops in and again let it stand before using it. Give the liquid more chance to settle into the cart.
Last bit from me: Ongoing, if you find yourself using up several carts in a day as I do, prepare some ahead of time then take them with you if you are going out or to work. It is just less hassle than fiddling about with liquid when you're out. I carry mine in a small ziploc bag (in case of leaks) in an old cigarette case. Spare battery probably too. I go through batts in just a few hours.
Wishing you all the very best and congratulations for having enough of a sense of adventure and open-mindedness to give this a try.
Love and peace
First up, the alcohol/cancer issue: confess I'd never heard of this so Googled it and it seems this is a fairly new but scientifically founded idea. And of course it is founded on DRINKING the stuff, not vaping! It does however seem that heavy or excessive drinking is the worst. Another thing I've learnt courtesy of the ECF - thanks. A small amount of alcohol has a very small risk factor, and in fact can protect to some extent against heart disease - also scientifically proven and rather better known. Even if you vaped 5ml a day (and that would be heck of a lot), it would be a TINY amount of liquid, a teaspoonful in fact - and only a proportion of that is alcohol. Myself, after the number of years I've been poisoning myself with tobacco, I rather feel that getting all concerned about a (pretty small) risk from alcohol would be hypocritical of me.
Next up: cartridge ingredients - assume the PG (propylene glycol) may be what you're most concerned about. Some of the research and references you can find more or less contradict each other, and rather than harm some indicate there can be beneficial side-effects as it has some anti-bacterial and anti-viral effects when inhaled - studies have been done which show this.
However, you're not alone and there's a fairly easy solution - in the US you have a juice supplier called Johnson Creek. Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America They manufacture their own juice, in the States. They are registered with the FDA. Not quite sure why, as I'd understood that e-juice falls into neither the FDA's area of remit as it is not a drug or a foodstuff, nor the ATF as it contains no tobacco. Hence the fussing of the bureacrats, no-one has decided who should take responsibility for it. Anyway, they are - probably just to reassure their customers that their production facilities and practices are up to the FDA's standards. Which you really can't necessarily be positive about with Chinese suppliers.
Even better, in response to these concerns amongst e-cig users, they also produce non-PG versions of all their various flavours.
If you click on any product it immediately offers a choice of 'PG' or 'NPG'. The carrier in the NPG is probably glycerine which many here on the forum including myself use to dilute liquids ourselves. Does still contain some alcohol though, I think. Drop them an email to ask. Back to what I thought was your main concern: the nicotine content. Seems as if you purchased from one of the most well-regarded US suppliers discussed here in the forum, The Smokeless Shop. I'm fairly sure the lady who runs it is Jane, and she has been highly praised for her helpfulness and service many times. If you contact her she will almost certainly be willing and happy to discuss your concerns, look up your order to see exactly what strength juice you have purchased (doesn't it say on your invoice or delivery note?) give you good advice, and may possibly know exactly how strong your Parliament Lights are in mg.
You may have noticed, lots of us here are pretty evangelical about this (odd, really, I can't stand religious types who do this!). You don't sound whiny, just someone who isn't quite sure yet if this is a good idea or not. Perfectly reasonable attitude for an intelligent person to take. Most of us here seem to think that as opposed to smoking tobacco, which is definitely known to be really, really bad for you, e-cigs are worthwhile giving a good go. Some have quit nicotine as well as tobacco using them but still vape because they enjoy it.
It is only the suppliers who aren't allowed to say e-cigs are NRT and can help you quit. There is plenty of evidence here in the forum to show that folk can and have used e-cigs to reduce or stop smoking if that is their choice. If you've only just got yours, do stick with it a bit until you've given it a fair chance. If you don't like the flavours you've got, try something else - there's masses of choice. JC do an ace taster pack, (in PG or NPG versions) for instance - we got one ourselves. Didn't like them all, but some we did.
What else - oh,yes - hard work puffing. We bought two 901's, one was an easy draw and the other I dubbed the 'keep-fit' e-cig. I had that one and let my partner have the easy one - he's only a guy (and I love him so!). After using it for a while either it got easier or I got used to it and stopped noticing. Still varies a bit, but I think they all do. Little electronic gizmos with their own individual personalities, that's e-cigs for you.
Coming to a close - Soot's advice is all good, in my admittedly limited experience; one month so far. Much shorter too!
Use this forum, look round and you'll find so much useful advice and debate you wouldn't believe it. Final tip, which I found yesterday from a UK supplier who doesn't even sell juice but does use it himself (!), about refilling cartridges. Drop some in, let it sit for maybe 10 mins, then put a few more drops in and again let it stand before using it. Give the liquid more chance to settle into the cart. Last bit from me: Ongoing, if you find yourself using up several carts in a day as I do, prepare some ahead of time then take them with you if you are going out or to work. It is just less hassle than fiddling about with liquid when you're out. I carry mine in a small ziploc bag (in case of leaks) in an old cigarette case. Spare battery probably too. I go through batts in just a few hours.
Wishing you all the very best and congratulations for having enough of a sense of adventure and open-mindedness to give this a try.
Love and peace
I was confused about this too. I checked out their registrar, and it appears you fill out a form, send something like USD200 through and they give you the certificate. It has something to do with terrorism, along the lines of registering yourself as a supplier of consumable goods so that "when they come we're ready". Very weird, paranoid, American thing. Here's the registrar: FDA Compliance Assistance & Registration for Food, Medical Devices & Cosmetics
It says it's in line with the "Health Security and Bioterrorism Preparedness and Response Act". Hehehe. Don't think it has much to do with cleanliness or anything like that.
By the way, the NPG *is* glycerine - it's in their FAQ.
Thanks, Bertrand. Gosh, that is weird isn't it? Confess I was peering at my screen yesterday trying to make out what that bit of the certificate actually said!
Bioterrorism Preparedness... wonder what that means in the real world?
If the US suffers a biological attack they'll come and take over your facility to produce vaccines or whatever, probably. In which case, would you really want to register...? Suppose it looks good on the website though, as most innocents like me would think, well, what I thought!
Also thanks for confirming the glycerine thing.
Merry Yule!
Bioterrorism Preparedness... wonder what that means in the real world?
If the US suffers a biological attack they'll come and take over your facility to produce vaccines or whatever, probably. In which case, would you really want to register...? Suppose it looks good on the website though, as most innocents like me would think, well, what I thought!
Also thanks for confirming the glycerine thing.
Merry Yule!
i cover the hole for a second with my finger sometimes while dragging.
this way i get more vapor.
I had a rake about for the cigarettes you smoke and the strength is 1mg Nicotine per cig so yes you are on 30mg a day.
You need to contact your seller and ask how many mg in the juice you bought.
Strange they dont have a table or some sort of conversion on their site for Low Med High.
If there is I could not find it.
Even stranger the juice does not have the strength in mg on the bottle.
The % of alcohol is usually very small and it is burned off before you inhale it.
You need to contact your seller and ask how many mg in the juice you bought.
Strange they dont have a table or some sort of conversion on their site for Low Med High.
If there is I could not find it.
Even stranger the juice does not have the strength in mg on the bottle.
The % of alcohol is usually very small and it is burned off before you inhale it.
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