So, I've come to find out that 24mg nicotine is too much for me as an anxiety sufferer. Nothing "bad" happened but since I'd been vaping this particular juice more and more(have vaped it plenty in lower nic levels with no problems) I noticed that my abs stayed tight constantly. I thought..ehh, its just my normal doings, no big deal. Then, I started noticing that I'd also get my usual "gagging attacks" more and more and for no reason(sometimes when I have an important event coming up I'll get nervous to the point of gagging). Anyway...long story short..too much nicotine at one time for me! Fellow sufferers.....be prepared if you're thinking of stepping up on a particular juice or overall. Too much nicotine is a surefire anxiety trigger and it might not be as calm for others.
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Have you tried WTA? I've been able to drastically lower the strength of my juice by vaping WTA some of the time. I find WTA to be very relaxing.
I haven't tried it..but I've been fine with just the normal juices. I had just bought a bottle of this particular juice at 24mg because it was a deal...but the more I vaped it, the more I noticed my anxiety symptoms growing stronger. I normally vape between 10-18mg.
This is interesting because many believe that anxiety is the underlying condition that gets people so hooked on smoking. In other words, the nicotine is what creates the "calm" despite actually increasing heart rate etc.
Using a higher voltage device, I have managed to drop from 36mg to 12-18mg. The way I saw it was, why up the nic? If you can use higher volts to get the same effect but with 1/2 or 3/4 the nic, why not?
All the best Paradox !!
Using a higher voltage device, I have managed to drop from 36mg to 12-18mg. The way I saw it was, why up the nic? If you can use higher volts to get the same effect but with 1/2 or 3/4 the nic, why not?
All the best Paradox !!
This is why i started smoking myself. I would get anxious/stressed out at work, and all i would have to do is step outside and light up a cig and everything would be okay. This hasn't changed at all for me with vaping, i haven't noticed my anxiety levels any higher than they are normally (specifically i have social anxiety, maybe its different if you have a more generalized anxiety disorder it might cause issues?)
I am another who smoked like a train when my anxiety was kicking my .......sometimes I'd chainsmoke 3 or 4 in a row and be calm. I dunno why its different..at least for me. On Captain's point though, I have General Anxiety Disorder, lol. In short..that basically means you can get anxiety attacks and not even have a clue why,...its really fun stuff at first when you don't know whats going on.
Anyway, you couldn't convince me otherwise that smoking doesn't calm anxiety but perhaps the nicotine alone(at least in large quantities) will trigger symptoms.
Anyway, you couldn't convince me otherwise that smoking doesn't calm anxiety but perhaps the nicotine alone(at least in large quantities) will trigger symptoms.
nah..its dekang desert ship. I have vaped it since I started. I'm sure we're all different so what 24mg did to me...it may take more for someone else. I was just wanting to throw out a heads up for people to just pay attention to what their bodies are telling them.
Been about 24 hours since I stopped vaping the 24mg juice and all the symptoms have stayed away. I'll just use it sparingly until its gone
Been about 24 hours since I stopped vaping the 24mg juice and all the symptoms have stayed away. I'll just use it sparingly until its gone
Just like anything else - anxiety comes in many different shapes and sizes and things that trigger anxiety in one person may not in another.
nah..its dekang desert ship. I have vaped it since I started. I'm sure we're all different so what 24mg did to me...it may take more for someone else. I was just wanting to throw out a heads up for people to just pay attention to what their bodies are telling them.
Been about 24 hours since I stopped vaping the 24mg juice and all the symptoms have stayed away. I'll just use it sparingly until its gone
If you can get some in a much lower dose, you can get an extra bottle and mix the two and not have to vape 24... I too, have panic/anxiety disorder and had to lower my dose to 12-18. It is hard to explain how the substance that calms us also revs us up. But I think it does both. I am perfectly fine with 18 during the day and 8-12 at night. It would be interesting to find out how many of us started and kept smoking to self medicate anxiety or depression.
I think that you would find a lot have without even knowing it. A lot of anxiety and depression goes undiagnosed and untreated. The people just handle it - adjust to it so to speak...
I know huh, not all of us are up to date on our acronyms.
(pssst...since it is undermarked...you can hover your curser over it and the system will tell you what it stands for...WTA )
Some of us partially use a mobile app such as tapatalk to interact with forums. The hover feature doesnt work as such.
I am new. I started with 24mg as a heavy smoker and i think it is a bit much. I couldn't imagine 36. Of course i don't think i am addicted to nicotine as much as i am carbon monoxide, lol.
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Yup. Step it down to at least 12mg from 24mg. 24mg had me going over the edge, as it was a lot more than my system was used to.
Going lower helped a lot, and I even have 0mg for vaping just before bed. That doesn't mean I don't have a really rotten day once in a while. Yesterday was that way for me, but one of my coworkers surprised me today and said he was proud of me, because he figured if I was going to revert back to tobacco cigarettes, yesterday would have been the day it would have happened. I got anxious and upset at work, and countered it by going outside, hotboxing two cartridges into oblivion and walking around the parking lot swearing to myself. By the time I went back inside, I just took a deep breath at the door and then avoided contact for the rest of the day the best I could with that one person I really wanted to hurt. Haven't been that upset or anxious in a long while, but I got through it. I also just ordered a couple of packs of carts at 18mg for just these occasions in the future. I prefer 12mg, 6mg and 0mg, but the 18mg will be reserved for the hell days. The biggest thing, though, is that I found 24mg to be way more than I was anticipating, and it caused anxiety symptoms for me in addition to a fast slamming headache and nausea - only took three draws to do it, too. I know I cannot go to that level safely - for me. 18mg is going to be an experiment for me, and I'll see if I can handle it. Otherwise, 12mg will have to be my over the top mg for those really bad days, and I'll have to write off the carts I cook in 20 minutes of hotboxing.
Going lower helped a lot, and I even have 0mg for vaping just before bed. That doesn't mean I don't have a really rotten day once in a while. Yesterday was that way for me, but one of my coworkers surprised me today and said he was proud of me, because he figured if I was going to revert back to tobacco cigarettes, yesterday would have been the day it would have happened. I got anxious and upset at work, and countered it by going outside, hotboxing two cartridges into oblivion and walking around the parking lot swearing to myself. By the time I went back inside, I just took a deep breath at the door and then avoided contact for the rest of the day the best I could with that one person I really wanted to hurt. Haven't been that upset or anxious in a long while, but I got through it. I also just ordered a couple of packs of carts at 18mg for just these occasions in the future. I prefer 12mg, 6mg and 0mg, but the 18mg will be reserved for the hell days. The biggest thing, though, is that I found 24mg to be way more than I was anticipating, and it caused anxiety symptoms for me in addition to a fast slamming headache and nausea - only took three draws to do it, too. I know I cannot go to that level safely - for me. 18mg is going to be an experiment for me, and I'll see if I can handle it. Otherwise, 12mg will have to be my over the top mg for those really bad days, and I'll have to write off the carts I cook in 20 minutes of hotboxing.
Good share, Kia. Sorry to hear about your crappy day but I'm glad you were able to handle it and move on!
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