Nicotine extraction

[anmldr]

I am going to do some experimenting. I will go and buy a can of pipe tobacco and try different methods for extraction of nicotine. I have a gallon of propylene glycol and some menthol crystals. My question is about the concentration of the liquid once I extract the nicotine and about all of the additives.

How can I determine the final concentration of nicotine in the liquid? Does someone have a link to a lab that will determine the concentration for me?

As for the additives in the pipe tobacco, I guess I am really wanting non-flavored nicotine so that I can get the flavor that I choose to add. Which tobacco would you suggest that I experiment with?

I am trying to find out more about flavorings as well. I probably will experiment with chocolate to start out with (already experimenting with menthol crystals). Are the chocolate flavorings sweet tasting or does a sweetner need to be added?

What should I avoid in flavorings? Oil based (avoid, right)? Only use water soluble products?

Thanks,
Linda

 

[ccure]

I can not help you a lot. But I can give you some advice. Please search in the forum DIY for extraction methods of Nicotine. Also, there you will find a lot of information about flavors and so.

Avoid flavors with sugar and use flavors for candy is the general recommendations.

Bye

 

[gnsmith]

Linda, Please take my advice and do not try extracting nicotine. this is very dangerous if you do not know what your doing and do not have the equipment to do it.
I am an engineer and not a chemist, I will tackle many things on my own, but I definitely would not tackle trying to extract nicotine. I understand the principle and the procedures of extracting nicotine, but I also know the risks involved if you do not have the proper equipment. (nicotine overdose and poisoning, and possible death)
Your home and kitchen is definitely not the place to be doing this, due to cross contamination.

I know I sound kind of harsh and pushy, but this is something you should not be playing with.

 

[anmldr]

I understand completely your warnings. I am a veterinarian and so understand also about cross contamination. Since I deal with drugs, chemicals and calculations for dilutions, I understand about protecting myself from these chemicals and drugs. I have an exhaust hood, gloves, protection masks and goggles, etc.

That is also why I asked about a lab that can determine the nicotine content before I try using any of the solution that I might create.

Linda

 

[gnsmith]

I understand completely your warnings. I am a veterinarian and so understand also about cross contamination. Since I deal with drugs, chemicals and calculations for dilutions, I understand about protecting myself from these chemicals and drugs. I have an exhaust hood, gloves, protection masks and goggles, etc.

That is also why I asked about a lab that can determine the nicotine content before I try using any of the solution that I might create.

Linda

sorry Linda if my post came over kind of strong, but you never know who would be trying this.
I can't give you a whole lot to help as I stated, I never try it. I know there are several different procedures one involving alcohol extraction.
I recommend you go to the DIY section of the forum. There are several members that have been experimenting with extraction. One person you might talk to his Tropical Bob. I have seen in one thread where he had worked with extracting nicotine from tobacco.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/14607-nicotine-extraction-tobacco.html

 

[anmldr]

Thank you. You did not come over as strong or unhelpful...just cautious (smart and trying to make sure that I was safe.

Linda

 

[nbrice]

That is also why I asked about a lab that can determine the nicotine content before I try using any of the solution that I might create.

Linda

Linda, I understand completely what and why you are looking for an absolute way to determine the amount of nicotine in your extraction method or for that matter any of the e-juices sold by vendors and/or diluted. As you read through this forum you will find many self-proclaimed experts that are giving advice. Most of those people are well intentioned and using information they have read from posts made from others that claim to be experts by their tone or what they actually wrote. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. As of now, I haven’t found one post that has scientifically determined what you and I are looking for (that doesn’t mean that it isn’t here, I just haven’t found it).

As far as finding a lab to test your extraction, I have made several inquiries and any lab that does drug testing can tell you exactly what you need. The problem is knowing the right questions to ask. For instances: amount of nicotine (mg/ml), PG, VG, and other compounds in the sample to be tested. Once you take your time and understand what you want your sample tested for, then contact the lab tell them exactly what you want and how you want to see the results, they will tell you how costly the test will be. If you want to cut your costs work with the lab to find out how that can be done.

I have started this process but I’m still not ready to start working with a lab.

I hope this helps and I know that what I stated will be controversial, but that goes along with posting anything on an open forum. As you can see I don’t do a lot of posting but I am on the forum everyday doing a lot of listening and PM’ing. Please feel free to PM me if you would like to talk some more.