Nicotine getting on lips... Yuck!

[JKB]

Finally got my first e-cig a while ago... Wound up with what's called the 'super-mini', (I guess).

After about a week of using it began having battery issues, just not holding a charge. And getting a taste of that nicotine on my lips, which is really bad!

And that was just not with the one I received, but a neighbor combined his order with mine and he had the same issues.

Well the company was real nice about it, said to return both kits and they would be replaced, which they were and even covered all the postage, even for the return.

Received our new kits, these batteries seem to be better, but still only lasting about 3 hours. But we still seem to have this issue of the nicotine getting on our lips, which isn't a good taste!

Contacted the company again, they claim that no one else had this complaint with their products, suggested once opened, to leave the cartridge out to air for about 5 minutes before using.

That didn't solve the issue... My neighbor eventually just totally gave up on his, not even using it anymore. I'm still 'trying', but seem to be trying less and less every day because of that nicotine taste getting on my lips.

Did I start off with the wrong model? I tried doing as much browsing and research before I made my purchase.

Could my supplier have got a bad batch of cartridges? I did open several brand new cartridges that seemed to have 'nothing' in them, like dead, no vapor, nothing...

Should I buy a pack of cartridges from another supplier and see if there's a difference?

Has anyone else experienced the nicotine taste getting on their lips?

Through my personal experience thus far, the e-cigs may be giving your body the nicotine it craves, but I'm finding that's not the only part of the addiction to overcome.

With a regular cigarette you do get that rush of smoke into your lungs, that you don't get with an e-cig. Although not a good thing, and yes sometimes triggers the coughing and hacking from smoking all these years, that's something that seems to be part of the addiction as well that needs to be overcome.

Anyway, my biggest concern at this point is the issue with the nicotine getting on my lips. I'm still willing to continue trying my e-cig, but have to admit making several trips back to the cigarette store to stock up on regular cigarettes before prices go up again!

I'm also finding that I can only use an e-cig for so long, before I have to light up a real one...

 

[Angela]

Most likely cause, IMO, is the way you are taking a drag on it: if you take a quick, sharp drag, the liquidwill not have enough time to vaporize and you will just pull liquid through. Take long, firm, slow drags and see if thta helps.

Another cause of liquid in the mouth is over-filled carts, but if you're getting this from all of the carts, the first option sounds the most likely to me.

Good Luck.

 

[Txrider]

I found the carts I ordered with m401, similar small ecig, were pretty inconsistent. Some carts were overfilled, some underfilled, some filled just great.

Next order I just bought liquid and some empty cartridges and am learning to fill and refill myself. It's working much better.

 

[Txrider]

BTW also tried different flavors. So far vanilla is my fave, and it actually doesn't taste bad if a little gets on my lip.

 

[yield2me]

I had the same problem with my mini at first as well. Like what the other person said, its all in how you actually take drags off the ecig. You can't smoke it like you would a normal cigarette, take a long drag that starts off with very little suction at the beginning and gradually suck harder as you continue through the drag. It took me a while to get this process down but once I did I don't have anymore ejuice on my lips. Another thing you can try is loading a blank cart and just drop a couple of drops directly on the atomizer and vape that way. Good luck and don't give up

 

[SmokinScott]

Are you holding the e-cig horizontally? Point the LED end towards the floor.

 

[breakfastchef]

Sounds like you are getting pretty good battery life. 3 hours is excellent.

Have you ever boiled a pot of water with a lid on it? What did you see under the lid when you removed it from the pot? Condensation. In an e-cig, some of the vapor will condense inside the atomizer. If you have a dying battery, for example, you might take several hard draws on the device and suck insome of the condensate. Practice inhale techniques that work for you and occassionally wipe off any condensate from your cartridge. One common inhale technique is to do a quick primer puf to pre-heat the atomizer followed by a long, slow steady draw.

 

[wv2win]

Get a manual switch PV (personal vaporizer) where you push a small button and heat up the atomizer before and as you inhale and you will not have this problem. If you keep the super mini, I would follow the other posters advice about inhaling very slowly.

Here are some links for manual PV's. Plus the batteries last for 7-8 hours on these and only cost $2-$3.

Screwdriver: ecigscrewdriver.com
Prodigy: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!
GG: THE GG
JantyStick: Janty USA
Zi Moshi Home

 

[tvujec]

Finally got my first e-cig a while ago... Wound up with what's called the 'super-mini', (I guess).
After about a week of using it began having battery issues, just not holding a charge. And getting a taste of that nicotine on my lips, which is really bad!

Well, super mini is what it says, very small. That means that the battery is not going to last too long. If the battery is your main concern, you might want to go with the pen-style, e-cigar, or even regular mini / standard (e.g. DSE901). You're using it for heating things up, which by definition needs much more power than e.g. cell phone. My DSE901 holds charge for almost half a day. Usually I can go through the whole work day (10-11 hours including commute), with enough charge in the second battery to last me until my first battery re-charges when I get home.

Also, super-minis have bad (personal opinion) design of cartridges, with airflow all around the wick holder which inevitably releases some liquid. I see that all the time with my NPRO, especially with a fresh cartridge. I like the DSE901 or DSE801 style which lets the air through only on one side, with better control of the wick storage.

I recently got KR808D (Nebula, Vapor King, Zeus, ...) and although it has a cigarette-like cartridge top, seems to have a good internal design that doesn't let liquid out. Also, battery seems to be pretty good, combined with DSE901, I can go through a full day without changing batteries.

 

[kr0nicle]

cartridges..

personally i have never liked cartridges for either of my "minis". they are either overfilled, underfilled or neither.. i tried refilling them, stuffing my own, and modding them so they would work better.

what i came to realize is that dripping is for me. get yourself a bottle of e-juice, and put 2 drops on the coil in your atomizer. since i started doing this i never get juice in my mouth. its also good because it gives you a good measurement so that you know when to stop.

 

[JKB]

I'd like to thank all those that responded! It's really appreciated... I did have high hopes that using an e-cig would finally help me to quit my smoking habit. Finding this is being more of a challenge.

To reply to a few of those that responded, first, yes I'm pointing my e-cig downwards when using it, and it's kind-of hard taking that slow steady draw when the battery only stays on for 2 to 3 seconds.

At this point, not knowing if this is even the right e-cig for me, I'm not really going to invest in blanks and liquid refill juice. Besides I had heard that it's very easy to wind up overfilling these, causing an even bigger problem with the nicotine that I have now.

Have to say that besides the cartridges being very inconsistent, I'm finding the batteries to be the same. Even being on the charger over night, sometimes the battery seems to be a lot less than fully charged. Sometimes a good charge, I never know until I start to use it.

Really disappointed, especially after spending $120.00 for this starter kit!

Looking around the Internet once again, it appears that prices on some starter kits are going down. I would not be opposed to trying one more, 'different' e-cig than this super-mini.

I did take a look at the DS901 as someone suggested, found a site that had a starter kit for something like $30.00. Interesting, but only available in black... Were the DS901's available in the typical white, with beige filter look? On the same site I did see a DS103... (for about $10.00 more), is this the same as the DS901 except for the color?

I probably should explain one thing about myself... I'll be going on 56 years old come July, and have been smoking since I was 17. A lot of years of this habit to overcome!

It's not uncommon for me to have a cigarette hanging out of my mouth while just doing regular activities, like cutting the grass, working on my workbench, driving, even sitting at the computer. And yes, often I find ashes in my lap. Even after all these years of smoking I don't think I've often exceeded 1 1/2 packs a day.

Besides that addiction of nicotine, part of the habit is just having something in my hand, (or hanging out of my mouth), and naturally that rush of smoke filling my lungs. Which I'm realizing that I'm not going to get with an e-cig.

I also know because of the battery, an e-cig is going to be heavier, but that's not much of a concern as much as finding something that will have me puffing more on an e-cig than regular cigarettes.

Being a 'newbie' to e-cigs, and being on a fixed income, I can't afford to wind up with a drawer full of 'experiments' that have been tried and failed. And it's getting to where I can't afford to be buying regular cigarettes! We're expecting a $1.00 per pack 'state' sales tax to kick in soon!

I smoke 100mm cigarettes typically, so I'm surely not opposed to a new e-cig with a longer battery, if it's going to give me a longer, and more consistent battery life. And a longer than a 2 to 3 second draw time would be helpful as well...

The place I got my super-mini told me that they can get me longer batteries, but at this point having those issues with the nicotine getting on my lips with these super-mini cartridges, I don't think it would be wise throwing more money into this brand/type.

I also am totally confused about any interchangeability between e-cig parts, accessories and cartridges. I had purchased a USB charger, and found that this super-mini won't thread into it... the diameter of the battery is too big for the hole in the charger. And the vendor has been less than cooperative as to take this back, or issue any kind of refund, saying only that this charger was made for the 'super'.

Super, super-e, mini, super-mini... Gee! Can't these companies make their products with names not so similar to others?

Figuring that the place I got this super-mini through might have got a bad batch of cartridges, I went on the Internet to try and find a different supplier and once again those 'similar names' didn't lead me to a supplier that from reading their web site, I knew I would for sure be ordering the right cartridges!

From the comments left for me here, (thank you again), now don't believe that finding a different supplier is going to solve the issues with this super-mini.

I would 'prefer' to stick with a traditional appearing e-cig. And I'm curious about the DS series that was recommended. Looking for some more comments and suggestions here...

I'm willing to give this one more try, so looking for specs and comments on other brands. Again, prefer the 'traditional' appearing type of e-cig, something with a longer battery life, longer draw time would be great, and naturally one where no one has experienced that 'nicotine on the lips' issues, which started this thread.

Am also interested in comments about different suppliers, (Internet sites), their pricing, customer service, dependability and above all, 'honesty'. Before I bought this super-mini, I was told that the battery would last a full day, and one cartridge is the same as one pack of cigarettes. Not only doesn't the battery last but a few hours, but I found that these cartridges are 'far' from being the same as one pack of cigarettes. I'm finding that numerous sites I had visited are all making the same claims now.

Did I just fall for some sales pitch that got me to off with $120.00 for this starter kit?

Thanks to all!

 

[breakfastchef]

JKB: Sorry for your wallet. As I have said before, vaping is a full-contact, hands-on habit. It is not for everyone. All the things you are complaining about are things a reseller would never tell you. I do not think the devices are overly reliable, you need extra parts on-hand and you have to be willing to refill and/or top-off your cartridges with e-liquids to make this a little less expensive.

Some folks claim to be saving money by vaping, but I would guess more of us are way behind the break even point. On a positive note, I would rather be plowing more dollars into vaping than sucking on analog cigarettes.

All is not lost, though. You have several smokeless tobacco options that might assist you with your nicotine addiction. Do some searching on this forum and the Internet for snus, dissolvable tobacco, nicotine lozenges and snuff. Pipe and Cigar smoking are alternatives that are not normally inhaled. Using a smokeless product and hanging the mini out of your mouth might work in combo.

 

[DragoonZeph]

If you are finding a finicky batter with your super-mini, it could be that through out the day as you are carrying it, the battery comes on with out you knowing it. This will cause some vapor within the atomizer and when you do go to vap, you are sucking in the condensation. I seem reports of super-minis that have batteries that are prone to come on due to heavy movement and even sounds.

For the addiction to the inhaling of smoke into your lungs, I would suggest a heavier vapor like the the 510. It does come with a manual switch and has a pretty nice design. Looks about the size of a analog and comes in white and black. Also, you could try cutting in VG with your juice to increase the vapor more. Though I have heard this could cause clogging or decrease the life of your atty.

Lastly, I myself am trying to kick the habit. Just a little will to stick with my toy, using a janty kissbox extended (love it, miss analog hits still, like the rush) but my order from there cost $200 so its an investment that I would like to stick out for a bit like you.

 

[arogyam]

e cigarette rocks. i am loving it.

 

[breakfastchef]

Lastly, I myself am trying to kick the habit. Just a little will to stick with my toy, using a janty kissbox extended (love it, miss analog hits still, like the rush) but my order from there cost $200 so its an investment that I would like to stick out for a bit like you.

KBC is a super device. I use mine with a pass-through and when I am out of the house. If you have any DIY skills, definitely build yourself a 5v or 6v battery pack mod for the penstyle atomizer. A 6v unit will give you 'near analog' throat hit. If you are having cravings, a few drops of 36mg juice in a 6v device will definitely take care of the craving.

 

[DragoonZeph]

Oddly enough I have been using the HIGH carts from janty. It's giving me a slight stomach annoyance. I believe it has to do with the high number of hits I take from it. But it shouldn't be too bad. One cart has lasted me an entire day, as well as the battery.

Though. I have this slight tingling sensation of wanting a 510/dura/titan. Can anyone steer me away? It just seems like it would be cheaper, and perhaps have more vapor. I like me some vapor. Throat hit doesnt really bother me so much. Seems the parts and start up kit is cheaper. My KISSBOX did run me 200 all together, got the extended with an extra atty and charger. (The auto switch is faulty and I think the bat in the passthrough is faulty as well. Feels like one bat and atty has been used, but other than that. I really can't complain. It has been vaping well all day on one cart. Maybe get better with a little breaking in time.)

 

[dumwaldo]

JKB,

#1 you MUST adjust the way you 'smoke' an e-cig as opposed to a traditional cig. As was pointed out before, you can not take a hard draw on the e-cig and need to get accostomed to a slower and longer draw.

#2 factory carts are filled inconsistently, as was explained. Even with the proper draw, an over filled cart will ofthen lead to liquid seeping through the mouthpiece. If you get some liquid you can refill carts on your own and have control over them not getting over filled.

#3 dripping directly on the atomizer gives MUCH better results with a super mini.

#4 I am guessing the place you got it from was called In Life and their sales people lie frequently. You can tell when they are lying because their mouth is moving and words are coming out. If that is happening they are either lying of are simply ignorant. It would serve you well to immediately forget EVERYTHING that they told you.

#4 before you take a drag on your e-cig take a quick puff for about a second. Just long enough to get the light on the battery to engage but not long enough to take a drag. Then immediately take your drag. This is called a primer puff and improves performance.

#6 if you shop around you can find the dse901 in white with brown filters to look like a cigarette. If at all possible I would suggest trying to find one that says RN4075 rather than DSE901. IMHO DSE models are not built well at all. This will be confusing and you will need to inquire with the retailer to insure you are going to get an RN model instead of a DSE because many/most sellers label their RN4075's as DSE901.

#7 watch Spikey's video that is linked to in my siganture.

#8 watch Spikey's video that is linked to in my siganture.

DW

 

[JKB]

Thanks for all the information... If you can indulge me a little further, first I did find the prefilled cartridges to be very inconsistent, however convenient. When I started this, I didn't figure that I would need to refill my own cartridges to make this work.

I had heard that dripping directly on the atomizer will only last a short time, maybe the same as one analog... A lot of trouble especially if I'm driving down the expressway at 55 mph.

I'm about ready to give up on this super-mini anyway! I didn't get it through 'Life', but a place called 'Torch' or 'E-Torch'. And at $120 for the starter kit, I'm very hesitant about trying another type especially not knowing which would be best, and which reseller is honest and reputable.

I'm finding starter kits ranging from $30 on up to over $150, so I have to wonder are you really getting what you're paying for, or are some places just 'way' overpriced?

With this super mini, it's kind-of hard doing a 'starter' puff, then a drag when the battery shuts off after about 2 seconds.

I did spend some time doing a search for a RN4075, but it seems that they aren't much around anymore. Did find one source that had them, but in big bold letters stated that they will not offer any warranties on the atomizer anymore, because of the complaints they've had, and that the factory isn't offering a warranty on them anymore either.

In my searches, I came across a link back to the forums regarding the RN4075 and the DSE901. Reading through '6' pages on the topic, I would guess it was a 50/50 opinion on which was better. I do know that after watching a utube from Leaford, he stated that the RN4075 was better than the DSE901. But I'm not going to dump more money into an RN4075 that someone still has in stock, but won't warranty it.

I have found some DSE901 starter kits for a lot less than what I paid for this super-mini I have, so am tempted to try it. Of course that 50/50 opinion read, lead me to find that there are flaws with the DSE901 as well.

My habits are as such that I do spend a good portion of the morning at a computer, so I would like to find an e-cig with a USB pass through. Haven't found if the DSE901 has this available???

If I put any stock on Leafords top 5 picks, he puts the DSE901 at #4 on his list.

The #1 pick is called the Long Totum (?), which is referred to as different names, from different resellers. And I'm finding that what he referred to them as in his video, doesn't hold true to what's on the web sites mentioned, except for one. So it's hard to determine which on the web sites is the one he is reviewing as they do sell several brands/models.

Even though he states that you get a lot of vapor from this style, that a cartridge is about the same as a pack of analogs, he also stated that he's found lots of bad cartridges and not a very good battery.

Even though # 3 on his list, he gave a perfect 5 out of a 5 rating on a pen style called the Sedansa Diva, although while browsing to get the name right, I found a very bad review of it, basically the batteries going dead really fast.

He also gave a 5 out of 5 for the Janty Classic, and the DSE801, all I believe has a USB pass through, and an extended life battery. But when adding up everything to put together a nice kit, I'm looking in the $200 range. And that's compromising, getting away from an analog style e-cig, and going to a pen style.

Probably good while at the computer, but don't know how well I'd get used to it out and about...

Gee, just looking at my ash tray on my desk, from the time I started this, (and bouncing around utube and various web sites), I know that I need to do something soon!

So I found a DSE901 starter kit for around $30... don't know if it's one of those 'originals' or a knock-off I've also read about, but do you know if there is a USB pass through available for these?

Also, I guess if I want consistent cartridges I'm going to have to fill my own. Are there cartridges and liquid for the DSE901 out there that will give me the same as a pack of analogs? And can I fill, say 10 at a time without them drying out on me?

Also, how is the battery on the DSE901? Will I get more than a 2 or 3 second draw before it shuts off?

As mentioned, I'm on a fixed income and although the money I'm spending on my 'analogs' really cuts into my budget, (and with the prices going to be going up again), I don't want to wind up with a drawer full of 'experiments' of e-cigs purchased. I do feel bad for those that had gone through numerous attempts, and ending up with that drawer full of those experiments...

I'll wind up getting even more frustrated and totally giving up on e-cigs, and trying to continue working my analogs into the budget somehow.

Again, I appreciate all your input and advise. From reading through the forums, even though everybody will have different opinions of each one out there, both good and bad, I would prefer getting some advise through someone in the forum that has been at it longer than me, as opposed to a sales pitch from a reseller trying to make a buck.

Feel I already got 'ripped' once, don't want it happening again by being trusting of someone who's only motivation is making a sale.

(Oh, and I did watch the video link you posted...)

Thanks for all your help!

 

[JKB]

Can anyone recommend a reputable place with a good price on the DSE901? And a place that also has a full line of parts and accessories? Would prefer to deal with one source...

Also, is there a USB pass through available for the DSE901?

Looking for a 'new' starter kit, before I give up all together on e-cigs.

Also, if anyone has any better recommendations on an alternative model, I would be more than glad to listen.

 

[thatgirl1985]

Vapornine has something different than the 901, but has been getting rave reviews.

It's called the Nebula and has a "cartomizer" which is a disposable cartidge with atomizer in one.

I am probably going to switch to that soon from my 801.

Good luck!