Nicotine got a bad rap...

[CorTed]

We all know that nicotine is the 'bad' word when one describes a cigarette.
After I started vaping, I did some research on this forum and elswhere on the web and found that the nicotine in a cigarette
is not the health problem when smoking. As I found out it is the other 3000+ chemicals found in the cigarettes which causes lung cancer, heart problems etc. etc.
The nicotine is however one of the main ingredients that makes us keep coming back.

Yesterday I told a good friend of mine I quit smoking and that the e-cig helped me do this.
He asked, does it have nicotine in it?
I said yes!
He said, well than you really did not quit, you just changed the way you put that 'bad stuff" in your system.
I tried to explain that nicotine in and of itself is virtually harmless in the dose I get from vaping, but he dismissed it all.

Nicotine over the years has gotten a bad rap ( I guess deservedly so) and it will be hard to convince many people we are doing something 'good' to our bodies.

But I really don't care as I know better.

Vapeon !!

 

[dankie]

Sad but true, everyone i've told who doesn't smoke feels the same way.

 

[rauchfrei]

I think it is clear vaping is the better way for our health.

Greetings

rauchfrei

 

[JesikaBeth]

Nicotine does have a bad rap but I think that's because the big cig companies tend to focus on that, rather than the hundreds of other poisonous chemicals in the cigs

Honestly, nicotine by itself is really on par with caffeine I believe. Addictive yes, but in and of itself not seriously bad and dangerous like the poisons in cigs. So I say, vape on

 

[denali_41]

when tobacco first came into the use it was a lot more pure then what it is today,,nicotine was the main ingredient to begin with,,BTC just started adding more and more addictive properties without anybody realizing it,,nicotine stayed out in the open the whole time and became the main substance to the general public

most people don't know there are 4000 bad things in analogs,,i had to find this place before i knew that ,so it would seem there are a lot out there that have no idea what is really in analogs ??

 

[Mindfield]

The sad thing is that nicotine isn't actually all that bad. It isn't nearly as addictive as most people think (it's the co-administration with MAOIs in tobacco that makes it so addictive in a cigarette) and it does have benefits, such as improving reaction time and memory. It only has a bad rap because it's the "main" ingredient in tobacco, the only one you ever really hear anything about, but the truth is, in terms of the harm it does to your body, it's way down on the list of other nasty ingredients in the average cigarette, and is on par with caffeine in both its effects and addictive potential.

But we'll have years of changing people's thinking on the subject before it'll ever gain any level of acceptance, unfortunately.

 

[sliq]

bullcrap.

i think there are other things that are much more 'dangerous' than nicotine.






like zombies.

 

[flwrfrog]

This is SO true.
I smoked a PAD for like 10 years... I WAS addicted to cigarettes. Quitting WAS hard and it took several attempts!

But... I have been smoking cigars, kreteks, hookah, rare puffs on a pipe for 10 years after that. I consider what I was doing responsible smoking. During this time I was never a daily smoker, more a social smoker and smoking sometimes just because I wanted to enjoy the flavor. There were times when I would smoke cigars several day in a row like on trips to Vegas. And I never got re-addicted.
In the times when I was quitting when I would grab a pack due to stress or when I was out clubbing a 3-6month re-addiction period ensued EVERY time!

IMO nicotine addiction is seriously over hyped as the major problem with quitting cigarettes.

 

[Roach]

Zero nicotine cigarettes would be just as bad for you if you smoked as many as regular cigs. It's not the nicotine that will kill you but the smoke. Breathing any kind of smoke that much is dangerous.

 

[Baldr]

It isn't nearly as addictive as most people think (it's the co-administration with MAOIs in tobacco that makes it so addictive in a cigarette)

I agree with most of your post, but that part, I'd have to disagree.

If the nicotine without the MAOI's was an easy addiction to break, then it would be easy for someone who is vaping to quit vaping. Just set it down and walk away. At that point, the MAOI's aren't an issue, since you've been vaping, not smoking.

It's not that easy to quit for most of us. And it's the nicotine, not MAOI's.

 

[tippyclubb]

I told a good friend of mine I quit smoking and that the e-cig helped me do this.
He asked, does it have nicotine in it?
I said yes!
He said, well than you really did not quit, you just changed the way you put that 'bad stuff" in your system.
I tried to explain that nicotine in and of itself is virtually harmless in the dose I get from vaping, but he dismissed it all.


Yep I get the same response from most of my friends, although a few do congratulate me as they know how hard I have struggled to get off the analogs. Honestly, I don't care what any of them think as I know vaping is much better for me than analogs.

Yes, I did the research too on nicotine and that is not what hurts/kills us, its all the other chemicals they put in tobacco. We all know nicotine is addictive but what I didn't know is its toxic in high levels.

Here's a funny story. When I bought my first 30ml bottle of juice the sales guy told me not to drink the bottle because it could kill me. Of course my response was " Why would I do a dumb thing like that? " All he said was " You never know, some people do strange things. " Okay I think I'll drink some nicotine with my coffee.

 

[Murdock Ruml]

Tobacco is in the night shade family. Along with tomatos, potatoes, and eggplants. Guess what? Trace amounts of nicotine can be found in all of them. That's why fries with ketchup is so addicting. LOL

 

[XKingXGregX]

ive met jerks at work who've said to me, "does that help", i say "yes i havent had a cigarette in over a year and i dont even think about smoking anymore" and they say "thats the same thing as smoking" and i say "ya well its not smoke though its vapor, theres no tar or carcinogens, its just nicotine and food grade flavorings", and they say "it still causes cancer" and ive usually said nicotine isnt the part of cigarettes that causes cancer, any further into the conversation is when i just ignore them because theres always jerks out there who want everyone else to be exactly like them....but i actually remember in school learning that nicotine isnt cancerious but tobacco is...

"Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine
The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic...."

 

[twohandedcreations]

I found that the act of smoking/the ritual of smoking is far more addictive TO ME then the chemical dependency. That might be just me though, but it definitely seemed to last longer then the nicotine addiction. Don't get me wrong, the nicotine withdrawals totally sucked, but they only seemed to last a couple days.... It was that constant feeling that "I should be doing something right now" that was the complicated part for me and vaping filled that void. Smoking was something i did to take a break from life, work, etc... anyway im rambling, but i agree that there are far worse things then nicotine that we consume on a daily basis and it seems like alot of non smokers(and some smokers) just dont wanna believe that..... I quit smoking and started vaping about 9 months ago and i must say that I'm far more educated now then i ever was during the 16years that i smoked.....

 

[Mindfield]

I agree with most of your post, but that part, I'd have to disagree.

If the nicotine without the MAOI's was an easy addiction to break, then it would be easy for someone who is vaping to quit vaping. Just set it down and walk away. At that point, the MAOI's aren't an issue, since you've been vaping, not smoking.

It's not that easy to quit for most of us. And it's the nicotine, not MAOI's.

Not necessarily. There's more to the addiction than chemicals. There's a huge mental component to cigarette addiction, and it's a component that vastly outlives the chemical dependency on nicotine. Nicotine mostly clears your system within a few days to a week, and is generally gone entirely within two. What remains -- and what drives the massive cravings for months and even years to come, long, long after your body has purged itself of nicotine -- is the psychological addiction. When we take up smoking, we begin to associate smoking with so many of the things we do in our lives and so many of the events we experience. We have a smoke after a meal, after sex, sitting at the computer, going for a walk, doing taxes, going out with friends at a bar or a restaurant, in the car, we smoke to relieve stress and anxiety when we're upset or depressed -- hundreds and hundreds of little things in our lives become linked to smoking in some way, and these become our triggers. Triggers that are pulled every time we try to quit and are reminded of smoking by encountering those things and those events in our lives that we have been associating with tobacco for years and even decades. So every time we encounter a trigger, we want a smoke. And it takes a long time to reprogram and recondition ourselves to begin de-associating these things.

The psychological addiction to smoking is strong and tenacious and not easily shaken.

That's not to say nicotine isn't addictive. It is. However, A) It is not as addictive as you think, nor as hard to wean yourself off of, and B) Its addictive qualities are greatly enhanced by the co-administration with MAOIs because the effects of the MAOIs compliment the effects of nicotine to the degree that your brain doesn't know or care which is making it feel good. It just wants more. Remove the MAOIs and the euphoric response is reduced, and with it, the addiction to that response. The same holds true with caffeine. We just hardly hear about caffeine addiction because very few people drink the quantity of caffeinated beverages needed to form an addiction on a daily basis. But it has happened.