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Nicotine helps memory/Alzheimers/Parkinsons?
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Organized crime just dreams of stuff like this. The more 'contraband' the more money to be made, the more politicians and judges to bribe, the more recruiting of minors to sell the stuff.
Something else to think about it the things that you find in everyday products like sugar substitutes. I know that my husband's memory has improved tremendously after he stopped drinking diet sodas. Just something to think about.
Everything that we ingest is going to do something to us. Good or bad. In the end something is going to get us. You just need to make choices for yourself based on what feels right to you. Science isn't always right. This week something can be the next miracle cure and next week a study comes out about that same something and its the worse thing ever. As a new vaper myself I'm just glad that I kicked the analogs to the curb I'll worry about the nic later but that's me.
really? I thought since nicotine is a vasoconstrictor it would make amputation more likely? I work in the operating room, and it seems most of our patients w/ peripheral vascular disease are smokers. That's one reason I try to keep my nicotine levels in my e-juice low. I'm not arguing with you, I just had never heard that nicotine makes blood vessels grow faster.
I hadn't heard that either. But low and behold...
Nicotine Stimulates New Blood Vessel Formation; Also Promotes Tumor Growth And Atherosclerosis
...although its long-term effects may "balance out" so to speak. But perhaps nicotine has a future as a short-term medication for circulatory stabilization after crisis. A PRN, so to speak.
It must be something else in cigs that destroys them. Probably CO and CO2.
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Hmm, interesting article. Seems to support NOT using nicotine, as it can support the blood supply to tumors, like lung cancer. This article is 10 years old. I guess if researchers had since found nicotine to be too harmful, the nicotine patches and gums would have already been pulled from the market. As you said earlier, all drugs have good and bad effects. Might help peripheral vascular disease, or might supply blood to tumors. Well, dang ;-}
Yeah. Like anything else, really. Just about any drug is unsuitable for some people. You'd never give the pill to a woman with blood clots, for example. They'd stroke out. And yet it's pretty safe for most women.
Assuming the person didn't already have heart disease or cancer, there's no reason why it couldn't be used as a stabilizing treatment from what this article provides. The Michael J. Fox Foundation is looking into nicotine as a treatment for Parkinson's.
But as a society, we have this automatic association of nicotine + smoking. It's hard to overcome, from a marketing standpoint.
I quit cigarettes and started vaping on March 17th this year. Using DYI recipes I gradually reduced the nicotine content in my cartomizers to 0. About two months later I started having serious tremors in my hand and then my leg. A number of other disturbing and rapidly debilitating symptoms soon followed. A visit to the neurologist brought an MRI and a myriad of other tests. A diagnosis of early Parkinson's was then made.
Wondering if quitting smoking had anything to do with the rapid onset of symptoms I googled nicotine and Parkinson's. I found studies that showed a reduction in motor symptoms with the use of the nicotine patch. I put the nicotine back into my cartomizers and found the symptoms drastically reduced within three days!
My neurologist has started me on Mirapex to address the remaining symptoms and suggested that I go back to zero nicotine as the studies are 'experimental.' No way! I believe vaping will (hopefully soon for the other PD patients out there) be the safe delivery method of nicotine they are looking for to treat PD symptoms...
Wondering if quitting smoking had anything to do with the rapid onset of symptoms I googled nicotine and Parkinson's. I found studies that showed a reduction in motor symptoms with the use of the nicotine patch. I put the nicotine back into my cartomizers and found the symptoms drastically reduced within three days!
My neurologist has started me on Mirapex to address the remaining symptoms and suggested that I go back to zero nicotine as the studies are 'experimental.' No way! I believe vaping will (hopefully soon for the other PD patients out there) be the safe delivery method of nicotine they are looking for to treat PD symptoms...
I love what you and Cassie wrote. I have anxiety issues, primarily due to my Type A personality. I can find a way to induce a panic attack by sitting and worrying about some absurd thing. I used to smoke to reduce my anxiety. However, I would have a rebound effect from it and within 30 minutes it would make my anxiety worse. So I would just light up another cigarette. And repeat every 30 minutes.
I have had ZERO panic attacks since I started vaping. That is nothing short of amazing for me. I am 33, and suffered from panic attacks since I was 21 years old. I have never gone this long between panic attacks. I really do believe that the nicotine in my cigarettes reduced the anxiety but the other yucky chemicals in the stinkies made the rebound panic worse. Now that I have removed the yucky stuff and concentrate on the nicotine part only, I have had no problems.
In 181 days, I will officially have my bachelor of science in nursing and be an RN. And I am determined to make research part of my career. And I really want to explore more about the benefits of nicotine.
I think nicotine is a lot safer and a lot more effective than most pharma drugs. Actually, to some degree, we already know that, since modern SSRI's are shown to be ineffective.
Depression drugs don’t work, finds data review - Times Online
There's a reason so many people with mental illness smoke. They make up 15% of the population, but 50% of cigarette sales.
People with mental illness are also drawn to other drugs, but not in anywhere near the sheer numbers that they are to cigs.
And the reason is because for a lot of people, it's genuinely helpful. I wouldn't have done it if it weren't. I didn't WANT to be an addict. I was old enough to know that was what was going to happen.
Most pharma drugs are just as addictive, and much less effective. Nicotine's side effects are also very minor when compared to most psych drugs. So really, there's no contest. It's no wonder so many people with mental illness smoke.
Statistically, half the people on this forum have some form of mental health issue, even if it's relatively minor. Smokers are a very unique demographic within the population. The brightest, the dimmest, the rich, the poor, and the mad.*
I did PM Seabrook some time ago, but I can say now after 4 months of vaping, that I haven't felt any real decline in my mental health. I do feel like my range is a little "broader." This is probably due to the loss of MAOI's, which are in cigs. But that "broadening" of my emotional range is relatively minor, and I don't feel it's had much of an impact on my general mental health.
And of course, my physical health is significantly better. It's the best of both worlds.
NICnurse, I think your goal is a very valiant one. It would be wonderful to have someone in the industry who understands that nicotine isn't pure, unadulterated evil. It's just a drug. It has positives and negatives like any other. And for some people, the positives can vastly outweigh the negatives.
* I realized after posting that some people may be offended that I use "mad," lacking other context. I don't use it as an offensive term, and gladly seat myself in that category. I take a reclamation stance to the dignity of those with mental illness, which is why I use the term.
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I haven't had nicotine for well over a month now. At first I was contemplating adding a tiny bit of nic to get the TH back, but now I'm contemplating it for another reason. I'm bipolar and cannot afford my medication (Abilify is $900 a bottle). My manic episodes have been getting pretty bad lately. I went to my doctor and explained my concerns to him. He told me that adding a few mg's to my liquid would benefit me and that the only danger he was concerned about was getting hooked back on nic and going back to analogs if the pv's ever got taken away. He is all for pv's and says that there is not much harm in getting nic as long as there's is no tar or those other chemicals you find in analogs.
I have not yet added the nic to my liquid but I'm definitely leaning towards it.
Edit: I cannot take Lithium, otherwise I wouldn't have a problem. Just thought I'd add that.
I have not yet added the nic to my liquid but I'm definitely leaning towards it.
Edit: I cannot take Lithium, otherwise I wouldn't have a problem. Just thought I'd add that.
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Out here in the flatlands of North Carolina, I can harvest tobacco leaves along the highway; they get blown off the backs of trucks going to market. LOL! Seriously, the Old Man and I are such confirmed nic addicts that we've already got tobacco seeds and discussed growing our own so we'd know it was pesticide-free.
Rock'n'roll.
Thanks for that.sbphotog - It's really great that you have a doctor who's that supportive not only of your vaping, but is also educated enough to understand that nicotine is not the same thing as smoking.
I hope you feel better soon, no matter what you choose. Let us know how you're doing. Those 'scripts are really stupid-expensive.
Another thing you may want to look into is taking Omega-3 supplements. They have been shown to have a measurable impact on a range of mental symptoms, including mania. I was on 4,000mg per day (4 pills, 2 in the morn and 2 at night) for a long time. I may start doing it again, since I'm gearing up for a fairly major life change. It really helped stabilize me when I wasn't doing so well.
Thanks, I'll look into that. I added 6mg's of nic to my juice last night cause I was in a real bad mood. It seemed to help. I'm gonna stay at a level that will be easy to ween off of later. Adding the omega-3 definitely couldn't hurt.
Glad it's helping a bit. Weening off should be ok - you've done it before, and it's a pretty low level. Hope you keep feeling better!
Go for the fish oil kind of Omega-3. It has more EPA, which is the ingredient that has the most benefit for mental health. Flaxseed Omega-3 has much less EPA.
Go for the fish oil kind of Omega-3. It has more EPA, which is the ingredient that has the most benefit for mental health. Flaxseed Omega-3 has much less EPA.
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