Nicotine Safety

[ecm170]

I have a question about health improving after quitting smoking.
From what I have read on here, after people switch to e-cigs exclusively their health improves dramatically. I have read about people taking up running again, blood pressure improving, etc etc.
But doing my own research I'm also reading things about how nicotine causes a lot of damage to our circulatory system and such.
So will I still be at risk for high blood pressure and other circulatory problems once I am completely off the analogs, due to the effects of nicotine? What have others experienced?

 

[the86d]

I had some issues when I changed over, but this was because I only had one local vendor, and all they had for refill liquid was XXhigh.

I went to Way low after I did some research here, and I have NEVER felt better. My lady is an MA and every so often my Blood Pressure gets checked when I feel the need and I am about the same as before I quit smoking. (Although when I was smoking I was in numbers of a non-smoker to begin with.)

EDIT: I have put on about 10lbs, but this is due to my bad lunch choices at work mostly.

Risks are associated with all types of stimulants. Caffeine and Nicotine are about the same per harshness on the body (I saw a videotaped doctor commenting on this), smoke is the real killer.

 

[DonnaDo]

Wow, did you go to the doctor today? How are you after that episode of chest pain going down your arm last night.

The questions that you are asking would be/would have been good ones for your doctor. Given your mitral valve history, I would defer to your doctor only for those answers. Also, risk levels are determined by factors other than just nicotine intake...genetics, nutrition, exercise level, etc. The questions that you ask are medical knowledge type questions; not experience type questions. For medical knowledge questions, you need to consult medical professionals.

Good luck!

I have a question about health improving after quitting smoking.
From what I have read on here, after people switch to e-cigs exclusively their health improves dramatically. I have read about people taking up running again, blood pressure improving, etc etc.
But doing my own research I'm also reading things about how nicotine causes a lot of damage to our circulatory system and such.
So will I still be at risk for high blood pressure and other circulatory problems once I am completely off the analogs, due to the effects of nicotine? What have others experienced?

 

[ecm170]

Yes I went to the doctor.
I never had chest pain. Just tingling in my hands and arms. She said it's unrelated, nothing to do with my heart.
Anyway she liked the e-cigarette and said it's a great alternative. I didn't think about the nicotine till i was home and doing some more research.
I am just wondering what others have experienced, and if I might end up stepping down to 0mg strength eventually. I love vaping so I'm gonna try not to have to give that up.

 

[DonnaDo]

Great! Glad that you followed up on the numbness and tingling. I would ask her the questions that you asked here....call or email.

Did you smoke prior to vaping (can't remember?) If so how much?

Yes I went to the doctor.
I never had chest pain. Just tingling in my hands and arms. She said it's unrelated, nothing to do with my heart.
Anyway she liked the e-cigarette and said it's a great alternative. I didn't think about the nicotine till i was home and doing some more research.
I am just wondering what others have experienced, and if I might end up stepping down to 0mg strength eventually. I love vaping so I'm gonna try not to have to give that up.

 

[ecm170]

oh i smoked a lot lol
like at least a pack a day for years
and then I quit 2 years ago, and just started smoking again last month. That's how i discovered the e-cig, i was disgusted with myself for smoking again but realized I really liked it and needed an alternative.

 

[DonnaDo]

Go with a very low dose of nic for sure if you need any nic at all. You're really fortunate that you discovered ecigs a month into your analog relapse! Congrats!

oh i smoked a lot lol
like at least a pack a day for years
and then I quit 2 years ago, and just started smoking again last month. That's how i discovered the e-cig, i was disgusted with myself for smoking again but realized I really liked it and needed an alternative.

 

[ecm170]

I know!
The problem is I'm doing both right now! lol

 

[DonnaDo]

Just start vaping; you'll let the analogs go for sure! That's what I did...no dying declarations to quit (although I had a desire to quit after smoking for 40 years) just vaped all day long and surprised myself at the end of the day. My vape habits are very much like my smoke habits; intermittant. However, now when I put down the PV, I don't have an analog burning in the ash tray. Wasting time, $$$, and AIR!

I know!
The problem is I'm doing both right now! lol

 

[telsie]

I have a question about health improving after quitting smoking.
From what I have read on here, after people switch to e-cigs exclusively their health improves dramatically. I have read about people taking up running again, blood pressure improving, etc etc.
But doing my own research I'm also reading things about how nicotine causes a lot of damage to our circulatory system and such.
So will I still be at risk for high blood pressure and other circulatory problems once I am completely off the analogs, due to the effects of nicotine? What have others experienced?

Nicotine raises blood pressure because it's a vasoconstrictor (constricts your blood vessels). Whether or not that's a concern depends on an individual's health and the amount of nicotine used. Even when I was a two-pack/day smoker, my BP was always normal. After six months of vaping (and not a single cigarette) I had a check-up and my blood pressure had gone down (it was 100/60).

 

[CaptJay]

Yeah Im like Telsie, my BP has always been low (90/60) even when a smoker so some of the BP issues are genetic and diet related. Co2 is cig smoke is found to have definite causality in arterial plaque but nic that is not taken in via smoke seems to be slightly less of a risk. I found this article (from the american heart assoc. no less) about a study in rabbits (2001) - the end of the report (initially for SHS) is quite interesting lol
Nicotine Does Not Influence Arterial Lipid Deposits in Rabbits Exposed to Second-Hand Smoke -- Sun et al. 104 (7): 810 -- Circulation

 

[Kent C]

Co2 is cig smoke is found to have definite causality in arterial plaque but nic that is not taken in via smoke seems to be slightly less of a risk.

That's carbon monoxide - CO, not CO2, in smoke that is the main cause of vascular/heart problems. CO2 is harmless in the quantities generated.

 

[SirVette]

I have had about normal blood pressure when smoking. A friend of mine who is in very good shape (12 min. on stress test) recently told me he had high blood pressure. A doctor put him on a natural remedy & it's normal now.


Kent C
So when guys quit smoking do the vascular/heart problems you mention get better w/ PV?
Does high blood pressure normally do down w/PV?

 

[Kent C]

I have had about normal blood pressure when smoking. A friend of mine who is in very good shape (12 min. on stress test) recently told me he had high blood pressure. A doctor put him on a natural remedy & it's normal now.


Kent C
So when guys quit smoking do the vascular/heart problems you mention get better w/ PV?
Does high blood pressure normally do down w/PV?

For me personally, I've never had high blood pressure or any heart problems. My BP is normally around 105/65 and hasn't changed after almost of year of vaping and no cigs - nurses ask if I "do cardiovascular" - I don't ;-)

And, can't answer for others other than the fact that it is known that CO in smoke is a source, and there is no CO in vaping.

 

[Devin421]

Thanks for the info!

 

[CaptJay]

That's carbon monoxide - CO, not CO2, in smoke that is the main cause of vascular/heart problems. CO2 is harmless in the quantities generated.

I knew I shouldn't have got clever and used the abbreviated form, see I got it wrong! lol I did mean carbon monoxide not dioxide - that'll teach me to be reading 2 different reports at the same time

 

[Kent C]

I knew I shouldn't have got clever and used the abbreviated form, see I got it wrong! lol I did mean carbon monoxide not dioxide - that'll teach me to be reading 2 different reports at the same time

Just didn't want others to get the wrong idea. I read the link you posted - good link but it did point out the CO was the culprit ;-)

 

[lovinlife]

I too have been going back and forth vape-analog-vape-analog! But recently decided that I was going to vape more. Went I started the new adventure I was up to 2 1/2 to 3 packs a day. 4 months later . . . my goal this week is 5 analogs a day! And it is working! I notice with each passing day feeling better! Glad you went to the doctor to have things check out! Good luck on your new adventures!