Nicotine Wean?

[OcalaFlGuy]

Course, my ex smoked in the shower, so imguess it could've been worse.

In another life I was pretty good at Racquetball. I taught a best friend who was a Much Better athlete [1] than I how to play. It took him about a year to get to my level. Just to P him off, I'd have a last smoke while I warmed up in the court and then proceed to shellac his ....

[1] It was pretty incredible. I'd be near the back wall and nail a kill shot. He'd dive across the court and get it. I'd fire another kill shot that no one else could get and he'd dive to the other side of the court and get it. He often got the point from me hosing what should have been the 4th or 5th kill shot in a row.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[RedBeard4081]

Computerguy - I told a non-smoker friend that reducing my nic level is not an issue, I'm still working on quitting smoking.
If your tastes change you'll cut back, if not then you don't. It's not mandatory.
Andria - "Shoot, I was usually starting to "nic out" when I put the last bite in my mouth."
What I noticed was the first thing in the morning, I used to light up a smoke before I had my eyes open.
Now I don't have to grab the ecig right away. It's a good feeling. - Red

 

[AndriaD]

Computerguy - I told a non-smoker friend that reducing my nic level is not an issue, I'm still working on quitting smoking.
If your tastes change you'll cut back, if not then you don't. It's not mandatory.
Andria - "Shoot, I was usually starting to "nic out" when I put the last bite in my mouth."
What I noticed was the first thing in the morning, I used to light up a smoke before I had my eyes open.
Now I don't have to grab the ecig right away. It's a good feeling. - Red

I was that way in the morning for a short time, but I developed adult-onset asthma when I was 24 (after I had smoked for about 9-10 yrs), and morning was always the roughest time, just trying to a) get the "breathing center" of my brain awake, and b) cough up the previous day's tar and phlegm; I pretty much had no choice but to wait about a half hour, at least 15 mins, before the first smoke of the day.

I can actually vape as soon as I'm awake, though it might make me cough a bit. I generally hold out for about 10-15 minutes before I start vaping; not so much coughing now, but still have to deal with bringing my entire brain online after a night's sleep. And as I noted about my post-meal behavior, it's not such a "burning need" as it was with smoking, so the 10-15 min wait just feels like, well lemme go to the bathroom, get dressed, get the tea brewing, and then we'll see about this vapin' thang.

Andria

 

[Bunnykiller]

I noticed something really interesting last night. I was eating dinner while watching TV. At the commercial, I got up and took my bowl into the kitchen. I didn't even realize, until the next commercial, that I hadn't grabbed my mod on the way back to the TV -- I waited all the way thru that segment, till the next commercial, AFTER EATING, before I even thought of it. That felt fairly triumphant.

Andria

if you were watching cable TV that would have been about 6 minutes between commercials

 

[Bunnykiller]

Popsicle paws is from my husband, from when I used to put my cold feet on him in bed. Now we have separate bedrooms, so I'm free of jumps-every-3-minutes and freight-train snoring... and he's free of popsicle paws.

When I first started vaping, in Feb 2014, I was using 6mg, and gradually getting my smoking down to zero, and I noticed a difference right away. Last winter however, I was using 10mg, and still got the popsicle paws. So I thought this winter I'd try to get down to about 5mg, and see if that helps.

Andria

and if you get to 0 nic and still have popcicle paws?? will you go back up in your nic?

 

[AndriaD]

and if you get to 0 nic and still have popcicle paws?? will you go back up in your nic?

I'll never get to 0mg; if I still have them at 5mg, then yeah, I'll probably go back to about 8mg. My nic reserve is calculated to about 4 yrs at 10mg/ml; at 8mg/ml, it'll last that much longer.

I'll never get to 0mg, because popsicle paws are far less of a life-problem than not knowing who I am.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

if you were watching cable TV that would have been about 6 minutes between commercials

Actually, I misspoke it as thursday night; it was actually wednesday night, and I was watching The Mysteries of Laura (NBC). Debra Messing cracks me up!

Andria

 

[louiesquared]

I started at 18 about 7 months ago. I stepped down to 12 after two months and again to 6 two months after that. About a month later I went down to 3. I didn't notice any effects or increased cravings at all. A week ago I replenished my juice stock with 0 and have been vaping both strengths. I know that my body never really craved the nicotine as much as it did the comfort I felt when smoking. Vaping is something that I really enjoy and will continue but as long as I don't need the nicotine I don't see any reason to have it.

 

[Racehorse]

I can easily understand a switch to vaping from smoking, but the 'slow wean from nicotine' has got me confused. I am mad for the effects caffeine and nicotine give me, and I also have no issues or anything with one on their way to a 0 nicotine level and then 'the door', if that is what one is striving for. This question has me so confused I can't even figure out what more to type.

My brother has Raynauds syndrome, made a big difference when he stopped using nic.

I understand you "like the effects" of nicotine. I did, too. Then I decided I didn't really want to be craving stuff (sweets, caffeine, nicotine, etc.) so I dropped to 0% and 1.5%.

I did a slow wean because I didn't want to "suffer" .

 

[issy]

I've dropped from 24 to 12, then to 9, then to 6...now at 5. I switched to an RTA when I was at 9, so I started DIYing 6, and stayed there until on a whim 2 weeks ago I decided to make it at 5

Boyfriend pressures me constantly to lower it. I was a smoker when I met him, what gives? I never pressure him to stop buying snack cakes or even maintain a healthy weight. I'm MUCH healthier than him all-around but he just seems to .... his way into my nic-level. Oh well.

 

[Gfdeputy2]

when I quit smoking /took up vaping a month ago I wanted to start with the lowest possible Mg of Nic I could
I started with a bottle of 3Mg & a bottle of 6Mg I have been surprised that this has been working for me as I smoked for over 25 years. I use the 3Mg all the time If I am having a stressful day I will use the 6Mg but has not been needed much. I figure I will wait till at least Christmas & make some 1.5Mg & see how that works before going to 0Mg

 

[Jenn1181]

I don't see any reason to vape no or even low nic. Seems pointless to me, like non alcoholic adult beverages or strip clubs...

Because some people don't like the throat hit. I have a hard time with allergies, and I don't find throat hits from anything above 3mg nic very enjoyable. In fact, it's downright painful if my throat is raw from my allergies already. I can go anywhere between 0mg and 3mg, but nothing higher. When I started vaping I was a smoking the equivalent of nearly two packs a day of American Spirit tobacco, hand rolled with short filters. I started with 24mg juice and quickly worked my way down. I decided to stick with 0mg after I went through a months-long spell of not vaping at all. Even at 0mg nicotine I'm getting that hand-to-mouth pacification and the social aspect. All I know is that it keeps me from smoking, so that's all the reason I need

 

[stevegmu]

Because some people don't like the throat hit. I have a hard time with allergies, and I don't find throat hits from anything above 3mg nic very enjoyable. In fact, it's downright painful if my throat is raw from my allergies already. I can go anywhere between 0mg and 3mg, but nothing higher. When I started vaping I was a smoking the equivalent of nearly two packs a day of American Spirit tobacco, hand rolled with short filters. I started with 24mg juice and quickly worked my way down. I decided to stick with 0mg after I went through a months-long spell of not vaping at all. Even at 0mg nicotine I'm getting that hand-to-mouth pacification and the social aspect. All I know is that it keeps me from smoking, so that's all the reason I need

Have you had your throat looked at by a doctor? Having a sensitive throat can be a sign or a medical condition...

 

[Jenn1181]

Have you had your throat looked at by a doctor? Having a sensitive throat can be a sign or a medical condition...

I have and was diagnosed with seasonal allergies.

 

[Super Flex]

I can easily understand a switch to vaping from smoking, but the 'slow wean from nicotine' has got me confused. I am mad for the effects caffeine and nicotine give me, and I also have no issues or anything with one on their way to a 0 nicotine level and then 'the door', if that is what one is striving for. This question has me so confused I can't even figure out what more to type.

I got into vaping a couple of months back to quit smoking, and I have gone from 32 mg of nicotine down to around 3-6 mg next week I will go to 0mg and I will continue to vape because I enjoy the flavor and the vape in general, I can't talk for others but for myself vaping saved my life I had tried everything the patches, gum and even hypnosis but they didn't work, vaping did. I guess what I'm trying to say is to each his or her own but for me vaping is here to stay.

 

[rico942]

I started with 48mg juice (yes, 48) to match the level of NJOY Bolds for about the first month after I quit analogs, then down to 36mg, and leveled off at 24mg for the past two years ...

I really like throat hit ...

Have absolutely no desire to drop further. A few deep hits of 24mg juice from my tootle Elips-C quells my Parkinsons tremors long enough for me to make a legible signature, eat with a fork without looking like Edward Scissorhands, and even get through US Customs at the Mexican border without raising an alarm. CBP agents are trained to react with suspicion and aggressive response to any "abnormal" body movements, so I also carry a notarized copy of my original Parkinsons diagnosis from Kaiser Permanente, and documentation from an approved Social Security disability claim...

Its been known for years that tobacco smoking "masks" the symptoms of Parkinsons, reducing the severity of tremors ...

My current neurologist at SIMNSA in Mexico is intrigued by my experiences with nicotine, and is informally researching this effect among his other patients. He would like to seek funding for a study and publish his results. I wish him luck, but Mexico has already used an old existing law to effectively ban the import and sale of PVs and juice as "simulated tobacco products", thereby protecting tobacco tax revenues ...

Vaping has given me a much improved life expectancy, hopefully long enough to see nicotine vindicated for its obvious benefits ...

 

[somdcomputerguy]

I have no problems whatsoever with the way another chooses to vape. I'm not particularly fond of 'cloud chasers', and I do accept that someone else may want to decrease their nicotine intake. I don't really get the '0 nic crowd', but to use an often used here saying "to each his own". I also think that the phrase I used in my original post "mad for the effect" was a bit of an overstatement. I don't get a 'rush' from caffeine or nicotine, but to quote myself from my vapin' webpage - "Caffeine and nicotine are two mildly stimulating drugs that I have absolutely no reason, intention or desire to stop using."

 

[AndriaD]

I have no problems whatsoever with the way another chooses to vape. I'm not particularly fond of 'cloud chasers', and I do accept that someone else may want to decrease their nicotine intake. I don't really get the '0 nic crowd', but to use an often used here saying "to each his own". I also think that the phrase I used in my original post "mad for the effect" was a bit of an overstatement. I don't get a 'rush' from caffeine or nicotine, but to quote myself from my vapin' webpage - "Caffeine and nicotine are two mildly stimulating drugs that I have absolutely no reason, intention or desire to stop using."

I mostly feel that way too, about caffeine and nicotine... but my dehydration problems dictated that I drastically reduce (80%) my caffeine so I could hang on to more hydration. I don't use a great deal of nicotine, never did go higher than 10mg, but I have such a terrible problem with cold hands and feet in the winter; I'm running to my bathroom for my blowdryer 5-6 times a day, just to warm up my hands and feet. So I figure it's worth it to see if a sharp reduction (50%) in nicotine, down to 5mg, might help. I was quite dismayed last winter to find that my hands and feet were just as cold as they've ever been, despite the total lack of carbon monoxide from smoking -- which I had thought (hoped!) was the cause of the cold mitts, but I guess not. I'm down to 8mg now, and will probably be mixing a fresh supply today, so I'm thinking I'll maintain my 2% level of WTA for a bit longer, and drop my nic again, to 7.5mg -- autumn has definitely arrived, so cold weather isn't far off. I prefer drops that are so small, I hardly notice them, individually, but they mount up, if you keep dropping.

But I'm just about *certain* that I'll never get to 0mg; I want my marbles to stay with me. I've already noted a few more problems than usual with remembering names -- always a bit of a problem for me, but seems to be getting worse. I don't want any more cognitive loss than I can possibly avoid.

Andria

 

[msrfrog]

I'm down to 3 or 6 depending . but I started at 24 two years ago and went lower as time went on . basically the taste tells you when. I still need nic though so for now I'll keep at 6 or 3 .

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[DPLongo22]

Add me to the list of people having neither the intention nor desire to reduce too far. I've been sitting happily at 15-18 for a very long time.

Government willing, I'll stay here until the last beat. I've seen too many potential benefits, and very little detriment (thank you, Rico - and best wishes), to want to change.

Plus, I like it.