I had no idea the stronger nic levels would start tasting hot by themselves. Is this a common thing or are you just lucky that way? I'd love to be able to wean myself to a lower nic level when the time is right.
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I had no idea the stronger nic levels would start tasting hot by themselves. Is this a common thing or are you just lucky that way? I'd love to be able to wean myself to a lower nic level when the time is right.
To me, nicotine doesn't taste "hot", but it provides that tingle in the throat and mouth that I always required in cigarettes and now in vaping -- the throat hit, we call it, though to me it's a full-mouth tingle. Sort of like the tingle of carbonation, to me.
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Me personally, I can't taste the nic, it just starts to get to a point that I can't vape as much as I like without getting "nic sick"
So when you get to that point, and lower your nic content, is it easy or do you have cravings for more nicotine?
In my experience, when I step down, I will virtually vape my face off for a few days and then slowly return to my regular vaping habits. By the end of a week or two it's all back to feeling normal. My step down progression was: 24mg - 18mg-12mg- and now 6mg. I have not gotten to the point yet where I can vape myself sick on 6mg, even in a dripper which is where I notice it first.
And not to get you even more confused, but if you're a new quitter of smokes, take a look at the WTA (whole tobacco alcholoids) That stuff can make the initial quitting easier as well.
I believe Andria is a big proponent of WTA and may have more to say than I on the subject.
I believe Andria is a big proponent of WTA and may have more to say than I on the subject.
Thanks! Okay, so it's still a bit of a white knuckle situation. I was hoping that if your body was telling you it was time to lower your nic content, it might be easier to lower it.
Don't forget the mental thing, as I said this was MY experience. With that being said, I've stepped my wife down in nic several times and she never noticed!
Very good to know. Thanks for the advice. I am pretty far from being ready to lower my nic content, but I like learning about the process all the same.
I find it terrifically easy -- but I reduce by VERY SMALL increments; usually a .5mg at a time, vape that for a week or two, then drop another .5mg the next time I mix. You can fool your brain that way, by reducing it so slowly that the brain doesn't really notice -- but over time, it adds up. In April of this year, I was vaping 10mg, and reduced to 9mg when I got an RDA that provides great TH. Since about the end of September I've gradually reduced it to 6mg, and really haven't noticed any difference *except* the throat hit; I mitigate that difference by using more Flash additive, so I can keep the TH I need while reducing nicotine.
Andria
This is wonderful information. Thank you. Do you DIY e liquids? I don't see how you could step down in such small increments without doing DIY.
Yes, I had to start DIY when I discovered the need for WTA, and the fact that WTA is 100% VG, which I can't handle very much of. I've also been reducing my WTA level all year, from 10% to, now, 1.4%. That's been a little harder, so I've taken it slower -- dropping just one percentage point a month until I got to 4%; at which point I started reducing it by .5% and then .2% increments, and although I might notice a little more with the WTA reduction, it's not really a matter of cravings, but just of feeling out of sorts for a day or two -- a little sadness maybe, or anger without a clear target or reason. But the discomfort goes away after a day or two. But with all this uproar over vaping and the impending FDA idiocy, I figured WTA might be a very early casualty, and I didn't want to be in a position of still needing it desperately to stave off cravings, and have it become unavailable.
Andria
Whole tobacco alkaloids. Because not only is there a lot of garbage and poison in cigarettes, there are several other alkaloids which, to some of us, are just as necessary as the nicotine to stave off cigarette cravings.
But if you don't feel a need for anything else... don't start. Because as I said, I strongly suspect that they will be one of the very first casualties of the FDA's ill-advised meddling. And they're also very costly -- $21 for a 15ml bottle of unflavored 24mg WTA.
I have a page about WTA on my website, if you want more info: --> Angry Vaper - About WTA
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