Ok I am thinking about making my own juice. I understand where and how much VG, and the flavoring thing. I am however getting confused on adding the nicotine to the juice. When I search for nicotine juice it says 99. something pure nicotine,and then it says 36 to 300mg. what exactly does this mean. I mean if im making a 30 ml bottle does that mean one drop of this nictone is going to make the whole 30ml bottle 300 mgs? And also the nic juice says vg or pg based i am already usuing Vg base to make the juice to begin with does it matter if the nic juice is vg based as well. I hope I am making since.
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There is actual a DIY mixing calculator. The mg's can be cut based on the amount you mix on a per ml basis. What you should do is get the post count up and post in the DIY section. The master chef's there will be more than happy to answer your questions.
If you make a 10ml bottle of juice , and you put 5ml , of 36mg.nic. in it , and then another 5ml.of straight pg or vg or mix of the two . you now have 18 mg nic. strength , flavor it anyway you like .
I use 100mg/ml nicotine from Myfreedomsmokes (WARNING, SUPER STRONG AND VERY POISONOUS). At 100mg/ML 1.8ML of nic = 18 MG in a 10 Ml mixture. You need to make sure You account for the Nic on the VG or PG part of you total mixture. i.e..
for a 10ml 40%VG final mix at 18mg nic add the following:
1.8ml nic (100mg/ml, in a 100% VG Base)
2.2ml VG
6.0ml PG (and flavorings).
I almost aways use a 60 - 40 final mix, I often cut my 100mg/ml VG as soon as I receive it with VG in th 1.8 to 2.2 ratio. then freeze it for future use (it's safer too). Later I just need to add the 60% PG-Flavoring portion. Frozen the mixture should last a year or more with minimal nic loss.
Also be sure to use USP grade VG and PG.
For the nic freaks: when you are handing the nic Wear gloves, protect your eyes, cover skin. Keep it away from kids and pets, don't store it where they can get at it. Fume hood's probably not a bad idea.
There are good calculators on the web that will make it easy. Just treat the stuff with some respect and you'll be fine.
for a 10ml 40%VG final mix at 18mg nic add the following:
1.8ml nic (100mg/ml, in a 100% VG Base)
2.2ml VG
6.0ml PG (and flavorings).
I almost aways use a 60 - 40 final mix, I often cut my 100mg/ml VG as soon as I receive it with VG in th 1.8 to 2.2 ratio. then freeze it for future use (it's safer too). Later I just need to add the 60% PG-Flavoring portion. Frozen the mixture should last a year or more with minimal nic loss.
Also be sure to use USP grade VG and PG.
For the nic freaks: when you are handing the nic Wear gloves, protect your eyes, cover skin. Keep it away from kids and pets, don't store it where they can get at it. Fume hood's probably not a bad idea.
There are good calculators on the web that will make it easy. Just treat the stuff with some respect and you'll be fine.
DO NOT buy anything that says pure nicotine. Don't order it, don't touch it. I know it comes up in a search and this is the stuff that is TEN TIMES the strength of 100 mg nicotine base. It should only be handled by experienced people in a lab setting.
If you want to buy nicotine base, buy from one of the suppliers that the DIY people here use:
Xtreme Vaping Nic Liquid
CRYSTAL CLEAR VAPING
Box Elder Chemical Supply
It's easiest to start out with 36 mg or 48 mg because the measuring comes out easier. 24 mg would be 50% of a 48 mg nicotine base, 10-15% flavoring, and 35-40% plain VG or PG.
If you want to buy nicotine base, buy from one of the suppliers that the DIY people here use:
Xtreme Vaping Nic Liquid
CRYSTAL CLEAR VAPING
Box Elder Chemical Supply
It's easiest to start out with 36 mg or 48 mg because the measuring comes out easier. 24 mg would be 50% of a 48 mg nicotine base, 10-15% flavoring, and 35-40% plain VG or PG.
Typically, 48mg and above is considered hazardous material. A lot of vendors have stopped carrying anything over 36mg.
Some labs still provide the high concentration stuff. You need to wear at least gloves for 48mg and good ventilation
might be a good idea. ( some are sensitive to nic juice, just mixing down 48 mg was enough to give me an overdose )
Anything over 48mg, and gloves with eye protection and a fume hood are pretty much mandatory. Some people will
say "I gargle 100mg with no problem"
, but why take the risk.
An easy base to work with is 36mg. Most common ratios are 6, 12, 18, and 24mg. This is easy to cut from 36mg.
Figure it as parts per whole. If you want 18mg juice, divide 36 by 18 that gives you 2. So 1 part nic and 1 part PG/VG
gives you 18mg juice. ( 10ml of 36mg nic and 10ml of PG/VG gives you 20ml of 18mg juice )
24mg is a little trickier, you can't divide 36 by 24 but you can divide by 12 ( = 3 ). So, 2 parts nic and 1 part PG/VG
gets you 12mg juice. ( 20ml of 36mg nic and 10ml of PG/VG gets you 30ml of 12mg juice )
Of course, there are plenty of calculators out there, there is even one for the ipod. Just search ejuice.
You enter your starting nic level and how much you want to make at what level nic you want and it will tell you what
ratios to mix.
Nicotine comes suspended in either PG or VG. You have to decide what ratio PG/VG you want to decide which
would be easier to mix. For example, I like a 70/30 ratio of PG to VG at 12mg. I use 36mg VG and mix 1 part nic to
2 parts PG. That gets me very close without having to try to make real accurate measurements.
Just remember, the flavoring is part of ratio as well. 15% is the most common level of flavoring, some will vary widely,
but 15% is a good rule of thumb. When making your nic base, short one of your components to allow for adding your
percentage of flavoring.
For example: My Cinnabun
15% cinnabun
5% vanilla
5% caramel
75% base
10ml 36mg VG and 12ml of PG leaves me room to add my 25% of flavoring to get me a 30ml batch. ( give or take a little )
It's just like cooking, you don't have to get it exactly right.
You will have to do some experimenting with the flavors you like. Some flavors can change a lot, for good or bad, with just a 1%
change in ratios.
Some labs still provide the high concentration stuff. You need to wear at least gloves for 48mg and good ventilation
might be a good idea. ( some are sensitive to nic juice, just mixing down 48 mg was enough to give me an overdose )
Anything over 48mg, and gloves with eye protection and a fume hood are pretty much mandatory. Some people will
say "I gargle 100mg with no problem"
, but why take the risk.An easy base to work with is 36mg. Most common ratios are 6, 12, 18, and 24mg. This is easy to cut from 36mg.
Figure it as parts per whole. If you want 18mg juice, divide 36 by 18 that gives you 2. So 1 part nic and 1 part PG/VG
gives you 18mg juice. ( 10ml of 36mg nic and 10ml of PG/VG gives you 20ml of 18mg juice )
24mg is a little trickier, you can't divide 36 by 24 but you can divide by 12 ( = 3 ). So, 2 parts nic and 1 part PG/VG
gets you 12mg juice. ( 20ml of 36mg nic and 10ml of PG/VG gets you 30ml of 12mg juice )
Of course, there are plenty of calculators out there, there is even one for the ipod. Just search ejuice.
You enter your starting nic level and how much you want to make at what level nic you want and it will tell you what
ratios to mix.
Nicotine comes suspended in either PG or VG. You have to decide what ratio PG/VG you want to decide which
would be easier to mix. For example, I like a 70/30 ratio of PG to VG at 12mg. I use 36mg VG and mix 1 part nic to
2 parts PG. That gets me very close without having to try to make real accurate measurements.
Just remember, the flavoring is part of ratio as well. 15% is the most common level of flavoring, some will vary widely,
but 15% is a good rule of thumb. When making your nic base, short one of your components to allow for adding your
percentage of flavoring.
For example: My Cinnabun
15% cinnabun
5% vanilla
5% caramel
75% base
10ml 36mg VG and 12ml of PG leaves me room to add my 25% of flavoring to get me a 30ml batch. ( give or take a little )
It's just like cooking, you don't have to get it exactly right.
You will have to do some experimenting with the flavors you like. Some flavors can change a lot, for good or bad, with just a 1%
change in ratios.
99 percent pure is 1000mg per ml and very dangerous to handle and almost impossible to measure accurately unless you dilute it first a lot to something more accurately measurable like 48mg per ml or 60mg ml per ml nicotine
Then you use an ejuice calculator
eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator
Then you use an ejuice calculator
eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator
I think I'll give you some time on the learning curve before trying any of your juice. Nothing negative. Kind of like medicine. Let some others try first before jumping on bandwagon.
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