Nitrosamines question - Forgive the newbie

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Apptiger

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Been reading alot. Not sure if this should be posted here or in the health or news section. May need a chemist to answer but.
It seems to me that the largest group of opponents to vaping bring up Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines.
Given the amount of nitrosamines in e-juice (0.00126% of a cigarette, lower than 4 pieces of nic gum and equal to nic patches) I don't understand the objection.

Further, I do understand the food we eat contains a tremendous amount of nitrates that our stomachs convert to nitrosamines. Leafy green vegetables are very high in nitrates that converts on some level to nitrosamines in our stomachs. They tell us to eat all we can hold.
For example - Fennel, Spinach, celery all have over 1000 mg of nitrate. Thinking that would convert to a measurable level of nitrosomines in our stomachs???

What is the difference if the nitrosamines come from food or tobacco extracts in e-juice?
Are all nitrosamines created equal?

Or has some of the research I am reading leading my down a crazy path?
Sorry for the ramble, long day.
 
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They are bringing it up because they want to regulate this industry so they can make money via taxes and such. Why do you think nic patches and gum are so damn expensive? Because it's regulated by the gov so they can get thier tax when you stop paying the insane tax on cigarettes.

I'm not a chemist, just a chemical engineer, but at .00126% of tobacco, which would you choose to put in your body? I really don't think it takes a chemist to figure that one out :)

Also, I haven't researched the chemistry behind it, but I highly doubt the nitrates in leafy greens produces the same harmful nitrosamines that come from tobacco.
 

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Yours is the type of question that certain entities with their own agenda think (or hope) no one will ask. Smoke and mirrors, diversion, fear tactics, and outright lying to the public are pretty much the norm these days. You keep doing your own research, thinking, and reading. Good for you.:)
 

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They are bringing it up because they want to regulate this industry so they can make money via taxes and such. Why do you think nic patches and gum are so damn expensive? Because it's regulated by the gov so they can get thier tax when you stop paying the insane tax on cigarettes.

I'm not a chemist, just a chemical engineer, but at .00126% of tobacco, which would you choose to put in your body? I really don't think it takes a chemist to figure that one out :)


Also, I haven't researched the chemistry behind it, but I highly doubt the nitrates in leafy greens produces the same harmful nitrosamines that come from tobacco.

I've done a slight bit of additional reading as I have doubts about my sources. Most of what I find are on dietary or vegatarian/nutirition sites. Not sure it can be trusted but it is relatively easily found through Google. They seem to think there is something to it. Even have instructions on one how to minimize the harm. For example the bad part of the potato is the skin and the first bit under the skin. I always thought most of the nutirents in the potato were there.
Who knows?
The only thing I am confident of (and grow more confident of with research) is that Vaping is relataively harmless, pending the juice contents.
 
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