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Word up NJoy!!!!!!
David if you're reading this.... (and if you're not, you should be).... put in a good word to bring those prices down considerably for the NJoy King fans would you? Nobody is goin' to lose no money here, I assure you!
Word up NJoy!!!!!!
David if you're reading this.... (and if you're not, you should be).... put in a good word to bring those prices down considerably for the NJoy King fans would you? Nobody is goin' to lose no money here, I assure you!
Hi ya Blonde. 1. Your cheekbones are to die for so I hate you
and 2. If you check the NJOY Facebook page, they are starting to take some serious heat from users shocked by the price and the poor lasting time. I'm glad I have an eRoll and other minis but the KING was a dream. Note, I said was. Stupid price and the plastic boxes will kill the planet too.
At almost $9 a pop they make sense in very limited situations. My sample lasted about 1/2 day and that was not heavy use. I would probably need 3 a day to feel carefree. So about $27/day or $800 month makes no sense as a regular thing.
What would I pay to smoke Njoy Kings exclusively? Maybe $200/month. That is much more than I spend vaping and a bit more than what I paid for cigarettes. But realistically, to hit that number they would have to come in at about $2.25 each, which I don't think is in their playbook.
Plus going through 90 of those a month is an environmental catastrophe (although they will recycle). So, I think it is doomed to be a novelty item, for most people.
In my perfect ecig fantasy world, Halo would find out who manufactures these and sell Halo Kings in reasonably priced 3 packs.
I'm puffing away on a menthol King right now. Even though I have a bunch of gear and juices . . .there's just something about the King that's so *right* in certain situations . .like when you want a real cig badly.
But . . .as others have noted . .the pricing and impending environmental catastrophe keep the Kings out of my regular rotation.
Sure are good, though.
But . . .as others have noted . .the pricing and impending environmental catastrophe keep the Kings out of my regular rotation.
Sure are good, though.
This is so true. They are really good for that pacing back and forth in the garage kind of break. That and they are hands down the best stealth vape ever. Really quiet, strong, low-odor, and small. Currently, because of the obscene cost, I use them only for situations like you mentioned where I really need to replicate smoking, or for "smokin' in the boys room" on the sly.
Hi ya Blonde. 1. Your cheekbones are to die for so I hate you
This is honestly the first 'hate' post I've ever received that actually made me smile....
.... Thank you for the lovely compliment DawnBella
HORSE GIRLS DEFINITELY RULE!!!!
Agreed. "Think GREEN" NJoy!
Offer an NJoy King 'Starter' Kit of 3 NJoy King disposables in the current (or similar, perhaps more substantially manufactured) plastic case that users can/will keep for future use, while offering single Kings sold separately in blister packs or something that's environmentally friendly. Just my
This is honestly the first 'hate' post I've ever received that actually made me smile....
.... Thank you for the lovely compliment DawnBella
HORSE GIRLS DEFINITELY RULE!!!!
Agreed. "Think GREEN" NJoy!
Offer an NJoy King 'Starter' Kit of 3 NJoy King disposables in the current (or similar, perhaps more substantially manufactured) plastic case that users can/will keep for future use, while offering single Kings sold separately in blister packs or something that's environmentally friendly. Just my
Stupid hubby forced me to say it so ... teasing... and you are very welcome.
I have 11 kings sitting in my night stand. I know I can send them back and get one free but that seems so silly to me. Part of me hopes they do wake up and price drop etc and the other part me is saying don't cuz I am happy with my eRoll. I dunno. I'm really torn. Like I said, the King is everything I have searched for in over 4 years but they would have to make them cheaper then a real pack and last as long too.
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Somebody will get to it hopefully. I finally tried my free sample. A little harsh on the throat and not a great flavor for me. Don't like tobacco flavors much. If we could just use our own flavors! It's more efficient than I believed possible for delivery. I'm hooked on eroll though for cig a like. Somebody will get it right and not charge too much. The 3 pack at $27-ish free shipping is better but needs to be at at least half that because they equal about 6 cigs each give or take id think $1.75 each and with a big variety of flavors
. Dream on
. Dream on
Ha! See? The flavor is one of the best features to me. That and the smallest off puffs produces such a loving cloud of joy. hehe. True though. For me, a real pack cost $6.00 and would last me a full day. If Njoy can match, I will switch and use only the King but ... dream on is right.
Well. If the made it half the price with free delivery I'd ad it to my things and use periodically. The really awesome thing is the realistic nic content in the bold. That equally like 40 mg strength and THAT helps it a ton because you don't need to chain vape
Eeek - I got a dud! I purchased a few NJoy Kings to have in the car and at the office. Well . .I opened one last night and tried it but there was very little vapor compared to other NJoy Kings I have used. I thought it might need a few primer puffs to get started so I gave it a few and was rewarded with a spritz of hot ejuice in my mouth. This is the 3rd King I've tried - the other 2 were great. I did eventually get this one vaping - but the vapor production is really weak - not really useable.
Love the NJOY King but the cost and short battery life makes it a no go for me
I'm a seasoned veteran vapor, and have vaped since 2008. I own: ProVari, NHaler tube mod (5v), Joyetech Ego-t, Joye eRoll, ePuffer Nano, several Ego Twists and straight up ego batts along with a slew of attys, carto's, Artemis locking DCT tank, ViVi Novas, Ego Crystal Vision(s) and more that I can't think of off the top of my head!
So out comes the new NJOY King and I'm floored! Darn thing is disposable though and I personally can't afford to smoke them exclusively or I would! I already reviewed it, so I won't go on singing their praises.
Their product line up makes no sense to me with the OneJoy (ick!) and Express Kit (ick again) as even if you do like and buy the Express Kit, what you're getting is not at all like the NJOY King, rather, like the the OneJoy and they don't have replacement carto's (who'd want one anyway?). So the incredible NJOY King sits alone in their line up and according to David Ford (Customer Sales Manager), they have no plans of making anything more out of the King than what we now have. So, the question is what is the closest thing I (or we) can get to this little gem of a toss-able that's rechargeable and has carto's or is refillable. NJOY's not even going to release the eliquid in the NJOY King as it's a "company secret recipe"!
NJOY, please clarify your intents regarding the NJOY King!
Can you please disclose the name of the supplier you found? I'm sure the Chinese are going to jump all over these things and manufacture them sooner than NJOY, which I thought was USA made! I'd love to try the Chinese equivalent or 'supplier' you're referring to! Thanks!
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When I emailed him he said they had plans to address the pricing complaints and more products planned. I need to check in w/ him.
As for the Chinese supplier, I'd imagine they're made in China. I think Njoy claims they're tested in the USA or something to that effect. I did find some that looked close but would be curious to the one 'dragonbone' found as well.
How old was his post?
I have experienced this now and again with the Kings. On average I generally buy a few Kings a month, sometimes more (when I first got into the Kings I was buying several a week, my wallet is thanking me for slowing down on that) but it seems duds are becoming more frequent.
To be honest, it's got me a bit worried, more worried than I usually am about duds and I'll tell you why. I'm sure everyone is aware of NJoy's whole recycling program where you send 8 dead kings back to NJoy and get a free one sent to you. I'm guessing they just recharge the batteries and put them in a new casing, as the battery has got to be the most expensive part of the King.
Anyway, the reason I'm worried about the duds is because I don't think they are just duds, I thinking the batteries in them might be recycled ones, which in theory recharging the battery shouldn't cause any issues, but if the battery was over discharged at some point, or not charged enough, who knows what could happen during the entire process, the user draining the battery, sending it back to Njoy, Njoy possibly sending it to China, them tearing the King apart, removing the battery, charging it, reinstalling it into a new tube, etc.
Like I said earlier, the "duds" seem to be popping up more frequently in recent months. I had purchased around 10-15 Kings before I got my first dud, just very low power coming from the battery obviously, because there was almost no heat to the vape and the vapor was very thin and wispy. That first dud was probably a few months ago, then I didn't have another dud for about a month, then I got a few duds all within the same week.
So now you see why I'm worried here, seems that as time goes on more and more Kings will have used batteries inside them, and more and more Kings will be duds out of the box.
Here's a BRILLIANT Idea for Njoy, how about letting US, the end-user, to recharge the batteries ourselves. I know, I know, I'm a mad man. I'm talking crazy. A cigalike battery that the user can charge themselves? Is the vaping world even ready for such an advancement?
(that was a bit of sarcasm in case you missed it)
I recieved my free one in the mail the other day. I am very impressed with this. It doesnt taste all that great, but overall it is a really good disposible. I have hit it about 10 times in three days, and am still suprised each time I do. Very nice analog like vape.
I, like many others, will never buy this because the price point is way to high. Honestly, I would only buy something like this for about a buck a pop. And that will never happen.
Just my 2 cents.
I, like many others, will never buy this because the price point is way to high. Honestly, I would only buy something like this for about a buck a pop. And that will never happen.
Just my 2 cents.
So many many pages back in this thread I had suggested the design that NJoy could use in order to make the Kings rechargeable, with replaceable cartos, basically turning it into a standard cigalike rechargeable unit.
BUT, with some specific goals:
Must not change the outward appearance of the unit
Must keep additional weight to an absolute minimum
The design should be simple and inexpensive to produce
I'm not sure how specific I got in that post, but I know I wasn't as specific as I'd like. So I drew a picture. I would have mocked this up in AutoCad but I wiped it during a reformat of my hard drive, and lost the CD, so I had to use MS Paint. Don't judge me
As you can see it's a two piece design. The pic is sort of large, open it in another window and zoom in if you can't see the details. The current materials of the King (soft plastic tube) would still be used. There is very little metal, only two small pieces of metal would be on the carto, and two on the battery. These would be about the thickness of an aluminum soda can, friction fit into a slot in the carto, then bend out and laid flat against the side of the carto's male end.
The battery's female connection would just be the tube, with the same metal contacts laying flat against the inside. When you insert the carto, make sure the contacts are lined up and then just push the carto into the battery. The metal contacts will meet up completing the circuit, as well as acting as springs to keep tension on the joint between the carto and battery. Polarity will not matter as the only thing in the carto is a coil, which doesn't care which way current is flowing.
As you can see this is a very cheap, easy, lightweight method to turn the King into a rechargeable unit. I can't imagine this adding more than a few cents to the total cost of each unit. Replacement cartos could be sold instead of an entire new King. Say, a buck a piece, even if you go through a few a day that isn't much money at all.
Even at $1.50 ea. I think Njoy could still make a good profit and customers would be happy. Standard cartos, with metal tubes, metal 510 connections, sometimes punched holes or flanges sell (on the low end) for that price or lower, so I see no reason why making the carto out of much cheaper materials, with a less complex design requiring fewer tools and machines wouldn't result in a carto with a retail price that is lower than what we are used to seeing for regular cartos.
Is it as strong, reliable, and long lasting as a traditional connection with metal bits and threading? No. But that's the idea. The King is supposed to be light, small, and ideally would be cheap. This design would make the King more of a semi-disposable, as the batteries can be recharged, and new cartos purchased, but the overall construction and cost means that it's no biggie if you battery dies, or you break the connection, or something stops working. Just buy a new unit, they are dirt cheap.
What do you guys think? Do you like the idea of it being a two piece rechargeable, or would you prefer the King exactly as it is right now, just cheaper? Any major flaws with the design? Any better design you can think of? Let me know! (And if anyone at NJoy sees this post, please realize I just did all the thinking and figuring for you, so please, take advantage, produce a product that people would really, really, really like, and be a bit more fair to your customers that want to use your product, yet you refuse to release a reasonable setup)
BUT, with some specific goals:
Must not change the outward appearance of the unit
Must keep additional weight to an absolute minimum
The design should be simple and inexpensive to produce
I'm not sure how specific I got in that post, but I know I wasn't as specific as I'd like. So I drew a picture. I would have mocked this up in AutoCad but I wiped it during a reformat of my hard drive, and lost the CD, so I had to use MS Paint. Don't judge me
As you can see it's a two piece design. The pic is sort of large, open it in another window and zoom in if you can't see the details. The current materials of the King (soft plastic tube) would still be used. There is very little metal, only two small pieces of metal would be on the carto, and two on the battery. These would be about the thickness of an aluminum soda can, friction fit into a slot in the carto, then bend out and laid flat against the side of the carto's male end.
The battery's female connection would just be the tube, with the same metal contacts laying flat against the inside. When you insert the carto, make sure the contacts are lined up and then just push the carto into the battery. The metal contacts will meet up completing the circuit, as well as acting as springs to keep tension on the joint between the carto and battery. Polarity will not matter as the only thing in the carto is a coil, which doesn't care which way current is flowing.
As you can see this is a very cheap, easy, lightweight method to turn the King into a rechargeable unit. I can't imagine this adding more than a few cents to the total cost of each unit. Replacement cartos could be sold instead of an entire new King. Say, a buck a piece, even if you go through a few a day that isn't much money at all.
Even at $1.50 ea. I think Njoy could still make a good profit and customers would be happy. Standard cartos, with metal tubes, metal 510 connections, sometimes punched holes or flanges sell (on the low end) for that price or lower, so I see no reason why making the carto out of much cheaper materials, with a less complex design requiring fewer tools and machines wouldn't result in a carto with a retail price that is lower than what we are used to seeing for regular cartos.
Is it as strong, reliable, and long lasting as a traditional connection with metal bits and threading? No. But that's the idea. The King is supposed to be light, small, and ideally would be cheap. This design would make the King more of a semi-disposable, as the batteries can be recharged, and new cartos purchased, but the overall construction and cost means that it's no biggie if you battery dies, or you break the connection, or something stops working. Just buy a new unit, they are dirt cheap.
What do you guys think? Do you like the idea of it being a two piece rechargeable, or would you prefer the King exactly as it is right now, just cheaper? Any major flaws with the design? Any better design you can think of? Let me know! (And if anyone at NJoy sees this post, please realize I just did all the thinking and figuring for you, so please, take advantage, produce a product that people would really, really, really like, and be a bit more fair to your customers that want to use your product, yet you refuse to release a reasonable setup)
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