No More Joyetech Tank ! Really disappointed !

[crxess]

Honestly, I just do not like it compare to my Bellus and Subtank. However, it is much better than Ego One. Maybe it good for MTL people, not for me (I am a lung hit). The vapor it produces are OK, but the flavour is not good. This is just my opinion.

While I completely understand complaints like these........ it is Preference not function that is the issue.
Expecting and designed to expectations are 2 distinctly different things.

It is like comparing 2-3 types of apples to an Orange. There are relationships. All are sort of round, have skins, seeds and all are fruits......then come the differences.

I won't touch a Subtank due to long surpassing them, however I do not fault the design and have watched its evolution.

Cubis has its place, though all aspects of design, limitations and personal vaping style must be considered.

 

[crxess]

Even Phil Busardo was very unimpressed with them when he took the factory tour , i just refuse to support companies who refuse to stand behind their products and will say F U when you try to use their warranty service .

Thats just wrong , some don't mind supporting them but that just says to them that it's OK that we will say "tough luck" if you need or deserve warranty replacement .

Well , shame on those people , it's not OK in any way, shape or form.

Hi herb

Just a quick
Damn near All warranty refusals of Chinese product is low volume Vendors refusing to do the middle man job that mainstream Retailers do on a daily basis.

Most of the Top China Product Producers do offer Warranties. Many 6 month and some 1 year.
The problem as always comes in when people need service and no one is willing to do the leg work.
Then you also have all the whiners that complain of no service on Clear user damaged products. Stripped threading, Drop damage and liquid damage.
We even have people claiming their coil heads should be warrantied

As to joyetech in particular, they are one of the ONLY China Ecig manufacturers to ever make a Voluntary Recall on Product.
joyetech replaced, in just one ECF Co-op Purchase, 120 eVic v1 heads. They did not ask for the units back or even return of the (Possibly) Defective Heads. They did attempt to replace every head in the Batch involved - good or bad.

I was in the co-op and have both heads, as working units, to this day.

Yes there is a metric ton of room for improvement............on both shores.

 

[herb]

Hi herb

Just a quick
Damn near All warranty refusals of Chinese product is low volume Vendors refusing to do the middle man job that mainstream Retailers do on a daily basis.

Most of the Top China Product Producers do offer Warranties. Many 6 month and some 1 year.
The problem as always comes in when people need service and no one is willing to do the leg work.
Then you also have all the whiners that complain of no service on Clear user damaged products. Stripped threading, Drop damage and liquid damage.
We even have people claiming their coil heads should be warrantied

As to Joyetech in particular, they are one of the ONLY China Ecig manufacturers to ever make a Voluntary Recall on Product.
Joyetech replaced, in just one ECF Co-op Purchase, 120 eVic v1 heads. They did not ask for the units back or even return of the (Possibly) Defective Heads. They did attempt to replace every head in the Batch involved - good or bad.

I was in the co-op and have both heads, as working units, to this day.

Yes there is a metric ton of room for improvement............on both shores.

Surprising , considering the following comments recently by people who know Joytech/Eleaf all too well .





snosk8r00CACTUS CACTUS CACTUS!!!!!!! 33 points 11 days ago

The funny thing is... WISMEC = Joyetech and people are still complaining about their warranty, forgetting that its "vaporware" to begin with.

Just know- The act of buying a Joyetech/Wismec/ismoka/eleaf product voids your warranty .

redhotkurtProtovapor XPV DNA-200D + Derringer 14 points 11 days ago

Joyetech and their "subsidiaries" have been screwing people over on warranties for years. Frankly, I'm surprised the outrage didn't surface sooner.

• Full thread:

WISMEC indicates TFV4 and other atomizers damages RX200 and voids warranty. • /r/electronic_cigarette

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[Bootiewootsy]

I guess I should have read more on the Wismec before order.. What tanks do you recommend I use with it ?

 

[crxess]

Surprising , considering the following comments recently by people who know Joytech/Eleaf all too well .





snosk8r00CACTUS CACTUS CACTUS!!!!!!! 33 points 11 days ago



redhotkurtProtovapor XPV DNA-200D + Derringer 14 points 11 days ago

• Full thread:

WISMEC indicates TFV4 and other atomizers damages RX200 and voids warranty. • /r/electronic_cigarette

They do know Wismec went Joint venture with Joyetech for the Chip, right?
Wismec Co-Branding for Electronic Cigarette Brands

Who IS Responsible?
warranty policy - Wismec Electronics Co.,Ltd


Warranty Terms

Looks like Joyetech has backed off to 90 days:
News on Products' Warranty And Security - Joyetech

Then again, Most super store electronics are only 90 days anymore.

Not arguing the frustrations..............but they have been going on for as long as I can remember............with just about every product and manufacturer I know of.

Once again, I must lay most of the blame on the Importing Retailers for not Demanding better service and working with customers to provide said service.

I must admit, I have not purchased any e-cig related produce in the USA and expected any support what-so-ever in almost 2 years.
I do expect, and have received, support from Fasttech on Every(not many) Issue with a purchase. Hmmmmmmm.

 

[Romenov]

I purchased ego one and mini. Have to agree on the leaking around the air flow. I have purchased the rebuildable atomizers, but haven't tried them yet. I just leave the ego one and mini by the computer and enjoy them once in awhile. I ordered the Original Wismec Reuleaux RX200 TC Box Mod, Black, waiting for it to come, as if I need another mode...lol

RX200 works like a charm, I like it so much, and the TFV4

 

[Bootiewootsy]

Thanks Romenov, I just ordered the TFV4 full kit

 

[crxess]

Since this was pushed:

• Full thread:

WISMEC indicates TFV4 and other atomizers damages RX200 and voids warranty. • /r/electronic_cigarette

Reads like most Reddit Sling fest - lots of accusation and little information, I had to have a second look.
Re-read and reached the same conclusion twice. Customer damage of a 510 due to mishandling, repeated over tightening, or simply not taking care of gear.
Started by a disgruntled owner and some miss-quoting of an email possibly miss interpreted between 2 languages.


*took me 30 seconds to Measure my TFV4 - @ 4.2mm

The unskilled Service Representative is replying with canned diagnostics to minimize language barriers.
The proper response(probably lost on the Customer) would have been. No the Atomizer is standard length and cannot be tightened long time.(to far)

The Service rep did not void the warranty and has no authority to do so without inspecting the unit. The Rep. Stated if those conditions were met, correctly, the warranty was Void.

Some of us have been dealing with China for over a Decade. Others don't get past go before freaking out.
First line of service lies with Seller. Buy from Reputable vendors.

We Are different worlds attempting to work together.

In Fairness and for a Cleaner read on the issue:
Wismec Reuleaux RX200 Issues With SMOK TFV4

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

A solution would be a universally adopted/accepted 510 pin length. This is not a new issue.

 

[lamensterms]

steamcrave supreme rta or aromamizer rdta v2, only tank(s) you will need
i have been using my aromamizer nonstop, everyday, no leaks, flavor is excellent (switch flavors around, dont vape the same flavor for 1-2 days), honestly besides no top fill (soon on the supreme), this tank checks all the boxes (except single coil mode, but you can manually make one... if that makes sense lol)

mods.. you can go with ipv5 or sx mini m, ml, q class, they are all excellent, just make sure you get silicone cases to protect your mod

Do you have a link or any more information on the Aromamizer RDTA v2? Or do you mean that the Aromamizer Supreme is the v2?

 

[MMW]

Two separate RTA that no one has yet. Still preorder.

 

[Stinkytofus]

Do you have a link or any more information on the Aromamizer RDTA v2? Or do you mean that the Aromamizer Supreme is the v2?

Aromamizer rdta v2 has no more rubber silicone for the afc and does away with the nipple, the supreme is the 25mm version with top fill and juice control

 

[crxess]

A solution would be a universally adopted/accepted 510 pin length. This is not a new issue.

Tell me about it.
Some have next to no movement, some are reasonable.
Some are nice SS and some are junk BraSS (snug/not tight)
Some are spring loaded and some are in a diaphragm.

I even have a few than you have to set the screw height on the 510 pin

Took a good look at the RX200 and the VTC-mini disassembled. Both do is the same 510 connection.
The 510 is a short through with a conical bottom closing to the diameter of the positive wire. i.e. the center pin is placed in from the Top.

I just tested the TFV4 and a Short throw 510 Orchid Tank on the VTC-Mini with no connection issues or damage. I Always have a Long Throw Magma RDA on the VTC-Mini, but secure to snug and stop.<I understand -to tight is broken>

I can state as a Fact - a complete redesign would be required to get a longer throw 510 in a Production Mod of these designs. At minimum, several mm taller or a change in board placement.(if possible)

I'd like to thank those pointing out problems. I enjoy looking in reasons and solutions.
Thank you

 

[Bootiewootsy]

Thanks for all the info.. I have read them and also ordered the tank the other day. Nothing has arrived yet.
I guess I will try different tanks on it... Really appreciate the time and reports that I have read..

 

[ShamrockPat]

... i just refuse to support companies who refuse to stand behind their products and will say F U when you try to use their warranty service.

I had an Evic Mini (my very first mod), that on the 89th day decided to have a faulty fire button. Sometimes it would fire on it's own, no button pushed. It worked perfectly up until that day, having never been dropped, or juice spilled into it.

My local B&M said tough luck. I contacted Joyetech who wanted a video, then a copy of the receipt, then a photo to prove autheticity. Fill out a long form. Here comes the kicker, fill out a new form with all the info they already have, send it California service center, and if they prove it's intermittently faulty, I get to pay for shipping back.

Seriously? And if you read their website they pride themselves on world class service.

I'm now rocking an American product where service or CS will be handled via a native English speaking person, and hopefully I won't get jerked around in the future.

 

[herb]

I had an Evic Mini (my very first mod), that on the 89th day decided to have a faulty fire button. Sometimes it would fire on it's own, no button pushed. It worked perfectly up until that day, having never been dropped, or juice spilled into it.

My local B&M said tough luck. I contacted Joyetech who wanted a video, then a copy of the receipt, then a photo to prove autheticity. Fill out a long form. Here comes the kicker, fill out a new form with all the info they already have, send it California service center, and if they prove it's intermittently faulty, I get to pay for shipping back.

Seriously? And if you read their website they pride themselves on world class service.

I'm now rocking an American product where service or CS will be handled via a native English speaking person, and hopefully I won't get jerked around in the future.

Man , thats a ton of work to get something like that replaced , i'm sure they worked it out that way so people think exactly that and don't bother.