Noisy Cricket II = my first unregulated mod

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blake charz

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Ok to keep things simple i've done a lot of reading before purchasing an unregulated mod but i'm still afraid to use because of all the reading i've done i still can't figure out the plain and simple question if i use (insert batteries here: mine are lghd2's) in (insert series or parallel or single battery: im going for series) what is about my resistance range that i should be building around to be safe. i want to move into unregulated after trying a few fiends devices but no one i talk to and no where i read seems to have an easy to understand answer to this question. Thank you for any help in advance!!
 

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If you have read up a lot on unregulated mods, I'm assuming you know how to calculate amp draw and therefore can relate that to the battery you want to use?
keeping in mind im a complete novice on unregulated adn reading information and being able to use information are different. ive read about it but have no idea how to put it to use
 

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keeping in mind im a complete novice on unregulated adn reading information and being able to use information are different. ive read about it but have no idea how to put it to use

We all have to start somewhere, but all I am saying is that when reading into unregulated mods, the main "topic" as it were is safety. If you arent sure whether you are safe, you haven't read enough. Not trying to sound like a tool here, but you either know it's safe or you don't.

There are loads of threads around battery safety in this forum (probably hundreds). Have a search and keep reading up. Mooch' blog will help you.

Good luck.
 

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We all have to start somewhere, but all I am saying is that when reading into unregulated mods, the main "topic" as it were is safety. If you arent sure whether you are safe, you haven't read enough. Not trying to sound like a tool here, but you either know it's safe or you don't.

There are loads of threads around battery safety in this forum (probably hundreds). Have a search and keep reading up. Mooch' blog will help you.

Good luck.
i mean i think i got it. if my resistance and voltage doesnt exceed the max amp limit of my battery i should be fine. so for 2 lghg2's that are 3.7v seperate then in series they would be 7.4v and my coil is around a .4 then my amps will be about 28 which is within the max limit of 35 amps for my battery. so in theory i should be safe right?
 

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Additionally, the NC II has some built in circuitry safeties. Not saying you should test them, but that as you learn and research, the mod should not go boom...

Still do the research and learning and studying... don't dive in willy nilly head first, and don't experiment on a Noisy Cricket V1 (or any other true mech) until you know you know...

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Additionally, the NC II has some built in circuitry safeties. Not saying you should test them, but that as you learn and research, the mod should not go boom...

Still do the research and learning and studying... don't dive in willy nilly head first, and don't experiment on a Noisy Cricket V1 (or any other true mech) until you know you know...

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but my logic in my last reply to the other guy is correct right?
 

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but my logic in my last reply to the other guy is correct right?
No. That 35 amp top end is a myth. There are no 35 amp batteries. Those LG HG2 are 18-20 amp. I recall seeing LH HD2 mentioned somewhere... those are 25 amp. If you want 30 amp, your best bet is the LG HB line... I prefer the 4 (mustards).

Next, you based your calculation on the nominal charge (3.7), and not the peak charge (4.2).

For straight up series builds, I recommend nothing below a .4 ohm build, and I recommend they be chunky (it's easy to get a .4 or above build with 30 AWG, but it will not be pleasant).

Note that in regulated series, the potentiometer adjusts between 2 and 6 V.

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No. That 35 amp top end is a myth. There are no 35 amp batteries. Those LG HG2 are 18-20 amp. I recall seeing LH HD2 mentioned somewhere... those are 25 amp. If you want 30 amp, your best bet is the LG HB line... I prefer the 4 (mustards).

Next, you based your calculation on the nominal charge (3.7), and not the peak charge (4.2).

For straight up series builds, I recommend nothing below a .4 ohm build, and I recommend they be chunky (it's easy to get a .4 or above build with 30 AWG, but it will not be pleasant).

Note that in regulated series, the potentiometer adjusts between 2 and 6 V.

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yea i rewrapped my batteries recently and couldnt remember the exact model of my batteries. i just found the original wrapper and its the lgdbhg2.

and should i always base my calculation on the peak charge? i thought it would be safer to go with the lower value

and ok i'll keep my builds between .4 and .5. and as far as bulky goes im wondering if i should switch from dual 26g nichrome round wire builds to a pre made fused claptons that are .45 each

and ill keep the potentiometer range in mind
 

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Uhm, 2 .45 coils will result in .225 resistance.

When starting to use a mechanical / unregulated there are no short cuts that replace knowing what your doing & why.

The reason you're not getting easy to understand straight out answers is because there many variables & your saftey depends on your knowledge, not a friends or ours.
 

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Uhm, 2 .45 coils will result in .225 resistance.

When starting to use a mechanical / unregulated there are no short cuts that replace knowing what your doing & why.

The reason you're not getting easy to understand straight out answers is because there many variables & your saftey depends on your knowledge, not a friends or ours.
so the claptons will probably blow my face off right?
 

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yea i rewrapped my batteries recently and couldnt remember the exact model of my batteries. i just found the original wrapper and its the lgdbhg2.

and should i always base my calculation on the peak charge? i thought it would be safer to go with the lower value

and ok i'll keep my builds between .4 and .5. and as far as bulky goes im wondering if i should switch from dual 26g nichrome round wire builds to a pre made fused claptons that are .45 each

and ill keep the potentiometer range in mind

You need to revisit your maths. You ALWAYS base your calculations on 4.2 per battery.
 
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so the claptons will probably blow my face off right?

No the 'claptons' won't " blow your face off ".
If something goes very wrong the shrapnel from the batteries & box might.

I'm not trying to be rude mean or harsh, but,
You didn't know the voltage or CDR of the cells you're using.
Don't seem to understand ohms law & battery saftey.
Didn't seem to know 2 1 ohm coils together half the resistance .5.
Are confused about input to & output from the potentiometer & how that effects amp demand.

There are several NC2 clones, some of those come with inadequate wiring & flaky/inconsistent protections.

This isn't a good choice of a power device to fiddle around with & learn on.

But if you insist on using it,
Wrap 2 - 2 ohm coils install & wick them, use 2 matched & married name brand high quality batteries with a true 20a CDR.
Press fire button, fiddle with twisty knob.
 

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No the 'claptons' won't " blow your face off ".
If something goes very wrong the shrapnel from the batteries & box might.

I'm not trying to be rude mean or harsh, but,
You didn't know the voltage or CDR of the cells you're using.
Don't seem to understand ohms law & battery saftey.
Didn't seem to know 2 1 ohm coils together half the resistance .5.
Are confused about input to & output from the potentiometer & how that effects amp demand.

There are several NC2 clones, some of those come with inadequate wiring & flaky/inconsistent protections.

This isn't a good choice of a power device to fiddle around with & learn on.

But if you insist on using it,
Wrap 2 - 2 ohm coils install & wick them, use 2 matched & married name brand high quality batteries with a true 20a CDR.
Press fire button, fiddle with twisty knob.
well when you put it like that i guess i might as well throw in the towel..cause it seems like i won't be able to learn this for myself
 
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