RDA Non existant flavor with Mutation X v3

[siraig]

Got my mutation xv3. Did my first build using 28g kanthal and some organic cotton. Reads at 1.2ohm, which is close to what I wanted. After playing with the wicking and wattage, I'm getting it to vape very well, but the flavor is nill.

What do I need to change or pay attention to in order to get the flavor I was hoping for? Right now, my subtank nano and aerotank mega are kicking this things ... in the flavor department.

 

[kickflipsnnollies]

You need to run it very hot to get flavor. 1.2 ohms isn't gonna cut it. Try more like 0.2 ohms. I've got dual tiger wire in mine clocking in at 0.3 ohms with 65 watts behind it. Tastes pretty damn good.

 

[ThunderDan]

Try dual coils, and lower gauge wire with more power.

 

[siraig]

I wanted to build cautiously as that is what I read everywhere. I can easily build a lower ohm rig. I'm vaping on a iStick 50w so I ought to be safe no matter what I throw in, yes?

As I understand it, a good regulated mod will keep a person out of trouble for running a build that some mechs might not be able to handle. Is that correct?

 

[ThunderDan]

For a 50w box, try 26g kanthal, 8 wraps around a 2mm bit, dual coil, should come out to around .4ohm and perform well in the 40-50w range.

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[siraig]

I have 28g, 28g triple twisted, and 30g double twisted kanthal currently. I'll try the 30g twisted and see what I get.

 

[ThunderDan]

I have 28g, 28g triple twisted, and 30g double twisted kanthal currently. I'll try the 30g twisted and see what I get.

That would work too, should get slightly better flavor with twisted anyway.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Buy a TugBoat and throw the v3 in the trash...or the v2---been there done that. Sorry- $30 bucks gone. Been there done that.

The chamber will never create the flavor of a Magma or Mephisto or the Tugboat.

I vaped many builds at all the wattages....It is unfortunate.

The twisted builds will blow up in your face---not literally---the popping will be unbearable.

 

[richboyporter]

I have a mutation x v3. And my girlfriend has a istick 50w. Flavor is determined by airflow, build and heat. Mutation X is a cloud atty. And the istick 50w is a decent mod. Try a parallel single coil. And close your airflow ALOT. if you're running single coil make sure you have your atty in single coil mode. Only one side of your air holes should be open. At that high of a build you should only have half of your first three holes open. I can get pretty good flavor off my mutation x v3. Its not my plume veil. But the flavor can be good. Play with your watts, build, and airflow and you will find your sweetspot. Build lower than 1.2 try .8 the istick 50w is rated at .2 for a reason.

 

[siraig]

Threw together a .6ohm build last night that is actually fairly tasty at 41 watts. I guess I must have read some wrong information somewhere as I was under the impression the Mutation x was more of a flavor chaser. Oh well!! I dont mind owning multiple atties Guess I'll start researching for a better flavor producer.

Thanks for the advice

 

[93gc40]

You don't need a hotter coil, but you MIGHT need more heat. Add surface area to the coil.. If you want to stay with the 28 add wraps and turn up the power on the mod. The alternative to gain surface is to go to a subohm build, problem here is in order for the sub build to be BETTER you need fat wire and even MORE power to get more flavor.

 

[rowsley]

I get all kinds of flavor out of mutationx v3. Even with the airflow wide open at 50w on the istick. 26 gauge kanthal .5 ohm dual tensioned micro coils on 2mm hanger rod on the coil gizmo. I've never tried any other rba but the flavor I get is awesome. That's all I've been hearing is its for clouds. I'm not saying it couldn't be better on what others are recommending for flavor but I know I'm not imagining things.

 

[ThunderDan]

Threw together a .6ohm build last night that is actually fairly tasty at 41 watts. I guess I must have read some wrong information somewhere as I was under the impression the Mutation x was more of a flavor chaser. Oh well!! I dont mind owning multiple atties Guess I'll start researching for a better flavor producer.

Thanks for the advice

Its definitely a cloud chasing type RDA, but I think the flavor is good too. Its one of my favorite RDAs in my rotation.

A lot of people will tell you the magma for flavor. I've got one, and never use it FWIW.

 

[siraig]

I'm going to give a derringer a shot as my next vape purchase. I currently have a couple RTA's in the mail, so it will have to wait a bit. Still enjoying the mutation, and the ability to play with builds and learn. Wicking is difficult... One of my coils seems to wick dry faster than the other. Both are heating up evenly and consistently. I'm assuming it is just in my wick.

 

[Das Auto]

I have had a similar problem with mine as well! First build was a dual coil at 0.5 ohms and was great!! Then I did a quad coil 0.2 ohms and it tasted like wet socks! So I rewicked and tried new juice! Same thing! Wet socks. Then I redid the coils again, twisted 28 around 24, 0.2 ohms. Wet socks, again!!!! Why!!! Why so good at first and now horrible!?!?
I only have a pic of the quad, thought I had one of the twisted. But here's another build with same concept.

 

[pls0138]

You do have to run this guy at a little lower resistance to get the most out of it. I would also recommend closing off the AFC a good part of the way, it is way too airy wide open, I run it in single coil mode so the one side is completely closed off the side with the coil is half way closed. Crazier twisted and parallel coils work great in this guy as well. Right now I have a single parallel staged coil in there using one strand of twisted 30awg and one strand of tiger wire made out of three strands of 32awg and 0.5 ribbon wire. Reading around 0.5ohm, and it's a beast. I think the reason this build works so well in this dripper is because the a 6/7 wrap parallel coil is pretty long (look like a 12-14 wrap regular coil), so those off-set top and bottom air holes (I line my coil up with the middle row) is still hitting on or around the actual coil. With a standard coil at around 7-9 wraps those staggered air holes are kinda in no man's land, which really does nothing for the vape except kill the flavor IMO.
I personally love my MX, but it is defiantly meant for sub ohming and twisted/parallel type builds. If you want something that can run a simpler build around 1.0 ohm, they are better RDAs out there.

 

[SkvLTD]

I wanted to build cautiously as that is what I read everywhere. I can easily build a lower ohm rig. I'm vaping on a iStick 50w so I ought to be safe no matter what I throw in, yes?

As I understand it, a good regulated mod will keep a person out of trouble for running a build that some mechs might not be able to handle. Is that correct?

IF your regulated box can handle it, yes. I'll go brush up on knowledge, but whole idea behind mechs is that they can run whatever the battery can handle, unlike these boxes with a fairly high ohm lower limit.

 

[Das Auto]

I was running mine at 0.2ohms both with Quad coils and Dual Twisted coils and both tasted like Wet Socks! My first build on it was either 0.4 or 0.5 and it was great! AFC wideopen! Loved it. now, something changed and not sure what. I think op may be in the same boat?!

 

[m4ltl1quor]

Try a 12 wrap of 26g on a 2.4mm or 3/32 ID my favorite build for a 50 watt.

 

[Miata GT]

Someone sold you the wrong atty for what you are looking for and how you are looking to do it. I have had luck nearly closing off all the holes except for the last row and making sure that the open holes are in front of the coils.