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Non-smokers vaping...

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Btsmokincat, Oct 31, 2013.

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  1. Btsmokincat

    Btsmokincat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 10, 2013
    Waterville ME
    How do you feel about people who never smoked cigarettes vaping?

    I was at the only vaping supply store in Maine on Monday (which is also an 18+ only tobacco shop) checking out all their juices. In walks a kid, who I swear was not a day over 18, grabs a bottle of juice and says I should "try the cinnamon roll, it's really good". Now I have no idea if this guy is a young ex-smoker but I doubt it.

    I didn't say anything to him as it's not my business but it kind of bugged me. As a 12 year ex-smoker (thanks to vaping) I don't think non-smokers should start vaping anymore than they should pick up a cigarette. BTW the shop only sells juice with nicotine in it.

    Am I just being a total snob or does this bother anyone else? I think what makes me cringe the most is the mis-information about e-cigs marketed to children and here's this barely 18 year old vaping.

    To each his own....
  2. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 23, 2011
    Boston MA
    I may be one of the few out there who still believe - god forbid - that if you are of legal age, and it's legal, you have the right to do whatever you want. You can't get into a hornet's nest of "vaping is ok for them, but not for those". No matter how you look at it, it's a bazillion times better than the alternative.
  3. FlamingoTutu

    FlamingoTutu Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2013
    In the Mountains
    I guess I’d rather see them vaping. At 18, I would have been a 5 year smoker. Wish vaping was around back then.
  4. WillyZee

    WillyZee Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 23, 2013
    Rickajho pretty much summed it up ... adults make their own choices and should not be judged.

    IMO ... it doesn't matter if you are a young adult or a senior ... choices are yours :2cool:
  5. EvilZoe

    EvilZoe Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You don't actually KNOW that the kid wasn't a smoker in the first place. Most kids have definitely tried cigarettes well before they're of age to buy them. Hell, I was a pack a day smoker at age 12.

    And yeah, the kid was old enough to make his own choices. He's old enough to die for his country so he's old enough to decide if he wants to vape or not, right?

    Oh, and one more thing....what sort of vape shop only sells juice with nicotine in it? That's
  6. Barbara21

    Barbara21 Moved On

    May 21, 2013
    Greenville, SC, USA
    Other than looking young, what makes you think he wasn't a smoker? I believe most smokers start before age eighteen (I didn't but I was a bit slow in that regards :) ) Or maybe he's taking up vaping *instead* of smoking. That's what I would have done if e-cigs had been available back then - I started smoking to fit in with my friends.

    I agree with Rickajho - if he's old enough to fight (and possibly die) for his country, he's old enough to vape if he wants to. (I believe that for drinking too but that's an unrelated subject).
  7. EvilZoe

    EvilZoe Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Hey, I'M the one who said that! *pouts*
  8. Robino1

    Robino1 ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Unless you asked, you have no way of knowing if the person is or is not an ex-smoker. There are a lot of young people that smoke(d). I'm with Rickajho on this one in any case.

    If it was one of my grandchildren, I would rather they took up vaping instead of smoking. I think the novelty would wear off very quickly. Since many of us are able to drop our nic levels, I don't believe nic is quite the addictive ingredient as reported. Something else in cigarettes are more addicting than just the nic.

    I personally feel that it won't be nearly as hard to give up vaping if that is all they have done.
  9. Talyon

    Talyon Vape 4 Life Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 21, 2013
    Life is about choices, and all adults should be able to do just that choose.......

    My Dad fought and died for my right to have choices, Ty DAD!

    Now just hoping my stupid government appreciates it the same.
  10. Robino1

    Robino1 ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    It seems a lot of us had the same thought process. ;)

    Did any of you hear the latest? In NY you can't buy any tobacco product unless you're 21. SMH
    E-cigs included :(
  11. Chimney34

    Chimney34 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I started smoking when I was 15 & I never got asked for ID until after I was 18. I understand your point OP. I don't agree with non-smokers vaping but I didn't agree with non-smokers smoking but not because of the reasons you might think. I like many of us never thought I'd quit the cigs and I hated to see people who have never smoked start. I know how easy it is to get roped in. I remember bumming cigarettes from people and eventually trying my luck at buying a pack...and it worked...I didn't get carded. After that i was a regular smoker for 15 years. I just hate to see other people get started because as much as I loved smoking I hated it at the same time.

    But yes, we are all adults & I guess the best you can do is share your experience with others...if they're open to listening...without being preachy & if they decide to do it then it's their choice. Who knows, maybe vaping might actually save them from cigarettes...or at least I'd like to hope so.
  12. StarsAndBars

    StarsAndBars Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 13, 2010
    Next time just karate chop him.
  13. FlamingoTutu

    FlamingoTutu Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2013
    In the Mountains
    You can vote some idiot into office and go off to die in a war but you can't buy an ecig?! Excuse me, I'm going to go melt down somewhere in a corner.
  14. heroinesick

    heroinesick Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 28, 2013
    Louisville, KY
    I know vapers that vape 0 nic, that have never smoked. As far as the 18 year old, he's an adult, he can do as he likes. Can't have our cake and eat it, too.
  15. cmdebrecht

    cmdebrecht Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2013
    Saint Louis, Missouri
    I was a late bloomer and didn't start smoking til college. My son's friend was a smoker in his junior year of high school. He picked up a Blu and was able to quit.

    So yeah, if it keeps a "kid" from smoking (either in the first place or helps him to quit), better to vape than light up.

    If a pup does skip the cigs and go straight to vaping, I bet it won't be as miserable an addiction as smoking in the long run.
  16. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    I experimented with a lot of new things when I was young. What stuck was smoking. For 37 years. There's no way anyone is going to stop people from trying things. Even making stuff illegal doesn't work. IMO the best scenario possible is that anyone who tries anything new does so knowing the risks so they can make an informed judgement on it for themselves.

    That said, it's clear to me that no one under age should be able to buy vaping supplies, cigarettes or alcohol. IMO nicotine from vaping is is not addictive, but may be habit forming for some and not for others. Smoking is quite addictive. If vaping is keeping someone off of cigarettes, that's OK with me.
  17. EvilZoe

    EvilZoe Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    It's that Bloomberg effect. He's some sort of control freak.
  18. LeoRex

    LeoRex Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 10, 2013
    United States
    A lot of smokers started long before they were legally allowed to puff away.

    I know my first cig was probably around 17... didn't really pick up the habit until I was in college a couple of years later.

    I knew of a few kids that were still in... must have been 7th or 8th grade that smoked.
  19. FlamingoTutu

    FlamingoTutu Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2013
    In the Mountains
    Btsmokingcat, I don’t think anybody here means to beat up on you. My first kneejerk reaction is the same as yours. Don’t take it personally. It’s a question that comes up a lot in one form or another. We've had a lot of practice. :)
  20. Btsmokincat

    Btsmokincat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 10, 2013
    Waterville ME
    I knew I was just being a snob! :oops:

    I wasn't going to say anything to him and he totally has every right. I agree with all of you, I guess I was stuck in the mindset that vaping is a great way to quit smoking and should be used primarily as such.

    To everyone that has replied so far, are all of you ex-smokers? I get the impression from most of the people here on ECF are ex-smokers. Honestly I think if I had never smoked a cigarette but discovered vaping I would have been as much into it as I am now, it's that enjoyable to me. (yes I'm apparently a snobby hypocrite too!)
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