Noob already looking to upgrade...what KR808 cartos to get?

[spaceballsrules]

Hi ECFers!
First things first. I started vaping a couple of weeks ago. I went ahead and, like so many others, ended up getting a V2 starter kit with extra cartos. (I know, I know!)

Anyway, after placing a second order for another batt and some cartos, V2 has been a complete FAIL on order fulfillment, so I will NOT be a returning customer. Their product is decent, and their customer service is good, but they are obviously suffering from growing pains, especially around the holidays, and there are certainly better options out there.

So now I am looking to upgrade to a better KR808. The KR808 that has caught my attention, thanks to bobalex, is the Elite 808 from CigEasy. It has nice features such as the charge indicator lights and the 3-click on/off. It also looks very nice. BTW I am over trying to find a cig look-alike, so I am not worried about that. I don't want anything that's ridiculously large, though.

I am not overly concerned about battery life, as even the V2, with its 250 mah and unregulated voltage, is lasting long enough for me between charges. I do want to upgrade to a 380 mah+ battery, but no more than a 650 mah model is needed.

So what are my best options for blank cartomizers to go with my current V2, and eventually the Elite 808? CigEasy looks to have some decent ones, or should I look at Boge or Kanger models from elsewhere? I also like the Elite Clear and Easy tank option, which is why I like the Elite in the first place. It seems to be a good stepping stone between standard 808s and an eGo style setup, which is also an optional future upgrade path.

I am still getting a little lost as to the details concerning cartomizers in general, such as resistance (2.0 vs. 2.7 vs. 3.0), horizontal vs. vertical coils, multiple coils, et al. I am also a little lost when it comes to the PG/VG ratios and what would work best. If there are any other considerations I should make, please let me know. That's all I can think of at the moment.

Thanks y'all. I am so glad there is a well established community such as ECF to support all the newbies coming in with so many questions, especially in a business so young. You guys and gals rock!

 

[The_Jerkstore]

Smokeless image has good blank cartos. Check the coupon thread as they always have a code.

 

[mooreted]

Bloog and V4L have some good cartos too. The V4L cool cartos, as the name suggests, produce a cool vapor. You'll want to go with the WOW cartos for a better vape.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Smokeless image has good blank cartos. Check the coupon thread as they always have a code.

Thank you, sir. I will check it out.

Bloog and V4L have some good cartos too. The V4L cool cartos, as the name suggests, produce a cool vapor. You'll want to go with the WOW cartos for a better vape.

I am guessing that the CoolCarts have lower than normal ohms and the WOW cartos have a slightly higher ohm rating than standard cartos?

 

[Charlz]

anything that uses the horizontal bottom coil. If you just google it ...horizontal coil kr808d-1.... you will have suppliers to choose from. The coil on the bottom uses juice better and eliminates the dry hits the old carts had. Other people are sure to chime in with supplier recommendations for these.

 

[swedishfish]

I've be concerned about the one week warranty on the pv from Cig Easy.

 

[swedishfish]

As far as cartos, Ikenvape has excellent cartos as well. More expensive than other brands but they have a huge carto for the KR808

IKV MEGA KR-808 Cartomizer STD 3.0

 

[spaceballsrules]

anything that uses the horizontal bottom coil. If you just google it ...horizontal coil kr808d-1.... you will have suppliers to choose from. The coil on the bottom uses juice better and eliminates the dry hits the old carts had. Other people are sure to chime in with supplier recommendations for these.

Thank you, sir. Nice info.

I've be concerned about the one week warranty on the pv from Cig Easy.

Where do you see that on the site? Never the less, I am thankful to you for pointing that out.

As far as cartos, Ikenvape has excellent cartos as well. More expensive than other brands but they have a huge carto for the KR808

IKV MEGA KR-808 Cartomizer STD 3.0

Very nice!
$2 a piece seems on par with other places I have looked, including the aforementioned sites. IKenVape also answered a question I had...now I know that standard KR8 cartos are 3.0 ohms.

 

[Charlz]

I am guessing that the CoolCarts have lower than normal ohms and the WOW cartos have a slightly higher ohm rating than standard cartos?

typically the lower the ohms the warmer the vape. The higher the ohm the cooler the vape but you get more flavor. That's why dual coils came along. Warmer vape and still a decent flavor. But you will have to wait to experiment with those until you get a bigger battery.

 

[swedishfish]

Where do you see that on the site? Never the less, I am thankful to you for pointing that out.



Very nice!
$2 a piece seems on par with other places I have looked, including the aforementioned sites. IKenVape also answered a question I had...now I know that standard KR8 cartos are 3.0 ohms.

If you like tobacco juice, their RY4 is very popular.

 

[aubuncom]

Mad Vapes do a series of carts and connectors so you may not need to change initial set up, thats what I did, use a 510 cart with an 808d and it works fine

 

[Charlz]

sorry, I keep looking over your entire post. On my 280 mah I found 2.5-2.7 the best ohms. Carts are getting better every day. I think my horizontal bottom coils are 2.7. I got them from a site that took like a 3 days to get them shipped and they are also closed until new years to boot so I won't mention them.

Anything lower that 2.5 will have you swapping out your battery much quicker as well as the lower ohms drain your battery faster.

 

[spaceballsrules]

typically the lower the ohms the warmer the vape. The higher the ohm the cooler the vape but you get more flavor. That's why dual coils came along. Warmer vape and still a decent flavor. But you will have to wait to experiment with those until you get a bigger battery.

I assume by bigger, you mean 650mah or more.

If you like tobacco juice, their RY4 is very popular.

I am not a fan of the tobacco flavors, but I have been limited to V2's prefilled cartos. I am waiting until I can get my hands on Backwoods Brew's RY4. I also just got a 6-pack sampler from Vermillion River, so that should be interesting.

 

[spaceballsrules]

sorry, I keep looking over your entire post. On my 280 mah I found 2.5-2.7 the best ohms. Carts are getting better every day. I think my horizontal bottom coils are 2.7. I got them from a site that took like a 3 days to get them shipped and they are also closed until new years to boot so I won't mention them.

Anything lower that 2.5 will have you swapping out your battery much quicker as well as the lower ohms drain your battery faster.

Yeah, it is a long OP
That answers that question perfectly! I was getting confused about the ohms when I saw that Liberty Flights listed KR8 cartos at 2.0, 2.7, and 3.0.
I think I will wait until I have a beefier setup before trying LR cartos.
Thanks!

Do you have any recommendations as far as PG/VG ratios?

 

[swedishfish]

I don't vape tobacco, but I fill the carto of someone that does. To me, Backwoods Brew Ry4 is very similar to their Casablanca.

An experienced RY4 expert like Bill would probably notice the difference. But to me- very similar.

 

[mynameisrob]

Its actually the opposite. A standard resistance carto(2.5-3.0ohms) will provide a cooler vape, while a low resistance carto(1.5-2.0ohm) will give a warmer vape and more TH. Most people prefer LR attys/cartos but they are only for bigger battery PVs, not slim ecigs. If you dont care that your ecig looks like a cig, then I HIGHLY suggest you get a bigger battery PV. While the elite 808 is a decent ecig, its not really going to be much of an upgrade bc its still a slim ecig and youll still be limited to what you can use with it. While the battery has a better mah, its still generally low and will need to be charged frequently. Plus the KR808 thread type has its limitations as well. You could get an affordable bigger battery PV that is the same price as the elite, if not cheaper, and will be a much better PV and will also open up a wide range of possibilities for things you could use. I would get a 510 threaded device which will allow you to use a wide array of different attys and cartos. A bigger battery PV would also allow you to use low resistance stuff too. The elite is considered a slim ecig, but its actually pretty big, especially for only having a 380mah battery. Their are quite a few bigger battery PVs that arnt much bigger and will give you a lot more satisfying of a vape. I would check out the kGo, Riva, and E-Power. They all are 3.7V and are alittle fatter, but also shorter. They all have 510 threading so you will have many options for things you could use on it. You could also then use lower resistance cartos and dual coils that you wouldnt be able to use with another slim ecig. The Riva has different mah batteries you could choose from, and even the smallest would give you alot longer battery life. The kGo has 1100mah batteries and the E-Power has 1050mah, so both would last you over a day before needing a recharge.
If you want another slim ecig, than go for it. I just dont think another slim ecig will give you what your lookign for and youll end up wanting to get something else again shortly after. Even though its nice that the elite is $30 off right now, for the same price you could get something that will give you alot longer battery life, alot more options, and much more of a satisfying vape

 

[spaceballsrules]

Its actually the opposite. A standard resistance carto(2.5-3.0ohms) will provide a cooler vape, while a low resistance carto(1.5-2.0ohm) will give a warmer vape and more TH. Most people prefer LR attys/cartos but they are only for bigger battery PVs, not slim ecigs. If you dont care that your ecig looks like a cig, then I HIGHLY suggest you get a bigger battery PV. While the elite 808 is a decent ecig, its not really going to be much of an upgrade bc its still a slim ecig and youll still be limited to what you can use with it. While the battery has a better mah, its still generally low and will need to be charged frequently. Plus the KR808 thread type has its limitations as well. You could get an affordable bigger battery PV that is the same price as the elite, if not cheaper, and will be a much better PV and will also open up a wide range of possibilities for things you could use. I would get a 510 threaded device which will allow you to use a wide array of different attys and cartos. A bigger battery PV would also allow you to use low resistance stuff too. The elite is considered a slim ecig, but its actually pretty big, especially for only having a 380mah battery. Their are quite a few bigger battery PVs that arnt much bigger and will give you a lot more satisfying of a vape. I would check out the kGo, Riva, and E-Power. They all are 3.7V and are alittle fatter, but also shorter. They all have 510 threading so you will have many options for things you could use on it. You could also then use lower resistance cartos and dual coils that you wouldnt be able to use with another slim ecig. The Riva has different mah batteries you could choose from, and even the smallest would give you alot longer battery life. The kGo has 1100mah batteries and the E-Power has 1050mah, so both would last you over a day before needing a recharge.
If you want another slim ecig, than go for it. I just dont think another slim ecig will give you what your lookign for and youll end up wanting to get something else again shortly after. Even though its nice that the elite is $30 off right now, for the same price you could get something that will give you alot longer battery life, alot more options, and much more of a satisfying vape

Yeah. I am not concerned about having an e-cig look like an analog. I am chasing the vape now

I actually watched the PBusardo review on the Elite, and he showed it side by side with his eGo, and the eGo is not much bigger. I guess it would make sense just to make the jump now to the 510 threading.

Thanks for the sound advice, sir.

 

[Charlz]

Spaceballsrules (and I agree....) For a typical cartomizer I run about 70/30 pg/vg. I like a full feeling cloud. Anything higher in vg will clog a cart but quick! Pg is for feeling like you inhaled something, vg gives a fuller hit and more vapor but it's thick stuff. If you want to know how thick, go to your drug store, and somewhere around the witchhazel section, you will find a bottle of pure VG. It's usually made by Humco. Anything 80 or above in pg hurts my throat. Alot of people buy the pg and play with the ratio.

 

[mynameisrob]

Im only saying it bc I feel like your going to end up going to an eGo or something similar anyway, so why not do it now and save that money?

You really will enjoy the vape alot more with a bigger battery PV. My first kit was an overpriced slim ecig kit. It did work okay for a slim ecig, but ended up buying a bigger battery PV like a week later.

Personally I like the 3.7V PVs more than the eGo,since the eGo is only 3.3-3.4V, but the eGo is a good PV.

Getting a bigger battery PV will open up all kinds of options that you could never experience on a slim ecig. LRs, actual good cartos, carto tanks, etc. Plus going to a device with 510 threading will give you a LOT of options as well.

If you really dont care what it looks like and just want a good vape, the I promise you that you will not regret the decision to go to a bigger battery PV. And if you really want to use KR808 cartos for some reason, you can buy an adapter so you could use them for a buck or two.

Goodluck!

 

[mynameisrob]

PG gives better flavor and more TH, but doesnt make much vapor.
VG makes a lot of vapor, but dulls flavor and TH some, plus its very thick.

Thats why people like a combination of the 2. I like 80/20 alot bc it gives good flavor and TH but also makes pretty nice vapor too