Noob genesis guy

[paladinx]

Hey guys.. I been vaping for awhile, yet I have never got to try a genesis type atty. It seems that many of the mainstream reviewers on youtube don't really prefer them anymore.. Its just something I feel like I need to try.. I am not a cloud chaser or a lung hitter.. I like to vape the way I smoked cigarettes and I am more interested in the flavor...

There are no vape shops near me so I never really get to try anything unless i buy it. I really have no idea what kind of genesis tank to try.. many seem realy expensive.. Any suggestions or any info would be great.. Even if there are some clones that are cheap out there that i could try just to see what a genesis is like.. Again im looking for good flavor..

Another idea.. if anyone has a spare attie they aren't using and would be kind enough to let me try a genesis .. I have a sophia attie I could send to you to try if your interested.. I also have like 8 bottles of new unopened juice that is sealed Anyway.. any help would be great.

Best Regards
Paulie

 

[tmassey]

The gennies are nice if you get them set up right, which can be a pita. If you're planning on using mesh wicks on a regulated device get ready for a whole lot of check atomizer messages at least while you're new at them. If it's your first rebuildable get something else.I'll be the first to admit I've never been great at mesh wicks,have had some great ones but the high rate of fails at setting em up made me more or less abandon them. Betting that's also the reason you don't see a lot of them on YouTube. Some on here swear by the gennies though. The flavor of them is definetely different than a dripper,can't say it's better or worse just different. If this long post hasn't dissuaded you from wanting a genni I'd recommend an rsst or rsst2 depending if you want singles or duals the insulated wick hole definetely helps with the learning curve, plus kidney puncher (at least used to) sell chamber reducers to help out flavor. Good luck


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[paladinx]

Thanks for the feedback... I never tried a gensis atty before, but I am not new to RBA's. I am not into duel coils or cloud chasing.. I am mostly interested in flavor... I hear a lot of different things.. When I watch videos or reviews of genesis styled tanks, the build never looks difficult or complex.. They stick in mesh.. wrap a wire and pulse it and it always seems to be fairly easy... I guess there is more to it than that.. I have no idea.. what does it work for 20 mins than break down or something? I was thinking of getting an ihybrid pure since they are cheap now.. i saw a site selling them for 40... I just wish i could try it just to see what mesh taste like.

The standard drippers I have tried were clones of the nimbus and trident, igo etc. I wasn't that impressed with it. Since I don't suck in huge amounts of vapor with large air holes and lung hit them.. to me the flavor kind of sucked.

 

[WattWick]

You are both right and wrong on it being easy. Or... How some youtubers make it look easy. The hard part is learning it. Once you got that down, I doubt any gennie user will tell you gennies are hard to set up and maintain. Once you got it, you got it. Like riding a bike.

I like to see it more as practicing 'muscle memory' than an intellectual challenge. It's 99% about getting coil and wick to cooperate. Which is a lot easier if you get the initial coiling 'just right' so you need the least amount of pulsing and prodding. Which is a job for your fingers, not your brain. Wax on, wax off

I'm a single wick / single coil kind of guy myself. While you can chuck some pretty decent clouds with gennies if you must... where they really shine is purity of flavor. Which requires the setup to work sort of perfectly. If its not juuust right, it won't be any good at all. Thankfully - on most gennies - you have very easy access to wick and coil... and to drain the tank. Which you may be doing quite a bit at first.

 

[paladinx]

I guess gennies require the special touch or ancient chinese secret.. Maybe its not for me. Do you have any other recommendations that are good with flavor? I was thinking of trying a spheroid.

 

[homeuser6]

i like rsst's (cheap),not mesh.i use 3mm hollow ekowool. there is 2 inches still in the tank. a needle down the center holds the wick straight while it gets 4 wraps of 32 gage(2.2 ohms). i pull the wick out 1/2 inch and rewind once a week. also stainless chamber reducer for best flavor.

 

[Sthur]

I second the rsst. I am running mine with SS cable with ecowool sleeve and 4 wraps of ss ribbon wire running at 1.1 ohms on my istick 20 at 4.5v. It's great and flavor is awsome. If you run on a mech I would take one less ribbon wrap at 3 to get too 0.8 ohms.

I also drilled out the top cap one hole up for little more airflow.

 

[paladinx]

hmm.. If your using silica than is there really a point? I would imagine it would taste like any other dripper using silica.. am i wrong?

 

[tmassey]

Honestly if you're looking for amazing flavor and ease of use go for a reo grande and an rm2, I use rayon and can go 60-100 mills without even rewicking. I wasn't going to bring that up, but you asked for suggestions mines drilled out to 3/32 airflow running a parallel 26 @.5 and it's got flavor beyond anything I've had and I can keep up with a lot of the more amateur cloud blowers I work with even though they're closer to .1
Edit: I should say that when sub ohming an rm2 the heat is much greater, my .5 rm2 is way hotter feeling than a .3 atomic, but the flavor is better as well.

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[WattWick]

I guess gennies require the special touch or ancient chinese secret.. Maybe its not for me. Do you have any other recommendations that are good with flavor? I was thinking of trying a spheroid.

Not really. Just trying to point out where the challenge's at. I won't deny that a bit of patience comes in handy, tho.

I honestly struggled to learn setting up gennies. I can only partially blame the annoyance on the Aga T2. Which is one gennie I would not recommend starting out with. However, the choice was between plastic clearos with silica wicks or stepping up to RBAs to get glass tanks and 'any other' wick. So... after getting a couple decent hits before my first gennie setups broke down - I realized I had to learn how to set up mesh to keep vaping. Not sure if I'd find the patience today. But I have yet to vape on anything that beats a gennie. So I'm happy I did.

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

Gennies are the only rebuildable that I have ever used, and have been using them exclusively for the last 6 months or so. When I have a coil and wick working really well together, it is by far the best vape I've ever tried. I still don't get a perfect one every time, but I've definitely gotten better. Like WattWick was saying, in concept a genesis atomizer is about as simple as they come it just takes some repetition and experimentation to get the wick/coil working well.

I currently own a Pyrex RSST, a DID and a Prometheus and the RSST is by far the easiest one to work on. Lots of space on the deck, insulated wick hole, and can be had for around $35.

Grab a mech, an RSST, some #500 mesh and some 28g Kanthal and give it a try!

 

[Light Seeker]

Been using a rsst for a long time, recently been replaced with kayfun 4s. The kayfuns give me the same flavor quality of vape, much easier to build, don't leak when I tip it, and seem to offer more clouds on a mech (and I could care less about cloud chasing). Ymmv.

 

[WattWick]

Since I learned gennies before the Kayfun (Lite) arrived, I see it exactly the opposite. Them Kayfuns are some royal PITAs to build

 

[Light Seeker]

I believe a gennie with mesh gives a 'crisper' (is that a word?) Flavor and vape compared to cotton or rayon wicking. But I don't miss the gunking I used to get on my mesh with some juices. I'm not sure why gennies have seemed to fall out of favor lately..... An excellent hi quality vape, perhaps it's the learning curve new vapors don't want to go thru.

 

[twgbonehead]

Here's a couple of pretty cheap genny's:

SmokTech Pyrex RSST - Triangle Vape LLC
AGI - Triangle Vape LLC

 

[paladinx]

THanks guys for all the help tips and advice.. I always hear the RSST is an easier to work with atty.. but the top cap looks huge.. That doesn't take away from the flavor? Right now im using a mini nautilus and i have to say whatever wick they are using in that thing.. ( I think ceramic).. the flavor is prety damn good.

 

[Light Seeker]

THanks guys for all the help tips and advice.. I always hear the RSST is an easier to work with atty.. but the top cap looks huge.. That doesn't take away from the flavor?

You mean the vase styled drip-tip? I never was a fan, and replaced them with other drip tips on my rsst's. Any 510 drip tip will fit.

 

[Sthur]

Any 510 drip tip will work on the rsst, I got a larger opening tip for mine. The stock one did suck.

 

[paladinx]

no not the drip tip. i mean the actual chamber size. Seems like the flavor would be muted with such a large chamber. I just got a mini nautilus and think the flavor on it is pretty damn good for a tank.. Anyone try it in here>?

 

[WattWick]

If I'm not mistaken, there are a few aftermarket topcaps and accessories for the RSST. Sort of defeats the point of a low-price atty, tho. I think it easily doubles the price.

Starting to feel sort of bad for not being able to come up with a 'run and buy' starter gennie. It's just that I have nits to pick with all my cheaper clones. Either annoying fasteners or internals that require constant polishing to avoid nasty vdrop or such.

... and ... well... I've never owned or used an RSST. For no real reason, really.