Noob, need advice

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Hey everyone I'm a new member after lurking for about a half a week...wow, there is A LOT of information out there. Anyways, good to be here and I am looking to buy my first ecig. From what I have read, I totally would go with the DSE-901, but I remember reading that the later model 901s are lower in quality...also Smoke51 looked great but then I read about how the cartridge and atomizer are combined - meaning they are expensive, and probably not a lot of people sell them.

I am looking for a good ecig for a noob. Preferably, it would have a standardized atomizer (so a lot of people sell replacements), cheap, refillable cartridges, decent battery life, and if I could be picky it would look classy as well. So, could you guys help me out?
 

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If you want refillable carts then stay away from the ones like Red Dragon that have the cart and atomizer attached. You can get the 901's in different colors and the M401's with stencling. If you want consistent throat hit like regular smoke, long battery life (7-8) hours, then you need a 1000mAh battery with a manual switch. That would be the screwdriver. Here is some advice I have given others. Hope it is helpful.

I read this forum and looked at older forum threads for two weeks before I purchased my first electronic vaporizer.

My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)

Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.

Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.

IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.

Hope this helps and good luck.

PS: the smallest bottle of liquid is 10ml and usually costs $9.99. In general (everyone is different) you should get any where from 5-14 days out of that size bottle. In addition, you can wash out the fabric in the pre-filled cartridges and reuse them. The fabric is simply polyester batting which you can get enough for a year's worth for about $5 from Wal-Mart.
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Here is a little more information. This is a link that provides information on most models of electronic vaporizers:

E-Cigarette Models
 

laynies

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I can only tell you my experience and it's literally been 2 days. I bought the dse901 from altsmoke.com. It came with 2 batteries, 1 atomizer, ac charger, and 4 0mg nic carts. I chose it because it was 1) a 901 recommended by the poll i saw here and 2) because it was a pretty emerald green color. Along with it I bought 3 more atomizers, 2 more batteries, a usb charger, 20 extra empty carts and fluid. All of this because of recommendations I read here.

Once I had 2 batteries charged I plugged one in with a cart I filled myself. The battery (or maybe the atomizer) wouldn't shut off and the atomizer became so hot I literally could not touch it. I pulled the battery off, tapped it a couple times on my desk, screwed everything back together and I've been vaping ever since. I'm averaging about 2 batteries a day, 2 carts a day and 2 analogs a day.

Another reason I was comfortable going with the 901 is the ease of finding parts for it. Unless they are sold out, most e-cig sellers seem to carry compatible batteries and atomizers. Also the carts are easy to refill.

Hope that helps
 
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