Ok, so I started with the ego, then moved to the glv supermini because i liked the size and button. So I have always used v# clearomizers and they worked great but the glv wont look good with 510/510+clearomizer and all that going on so I moved to Boge cartomizers. Now I feel like the LR boge runs through liquid extremly fast. Burt the first one now onto the second witch i keep supper wet. Hang in there Im getting to what I really need to know and here it is. Every one talks about a throat hit but I need a "chest hit" like cigaretts used to give me how do I make that happen with 3.7 GLV?
noob needs help! "throat hit Vs chest hit"
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Get a bigger and better PV (like an EGO Twist 1000mah replacement battery (you'll need a new charger for that btw) and take bigger hits. Increasing the nicotine will only increase the harshness of the vapor which, coupled with heat, is commonly referred to as the "throat hit" here on ECF and the vaping community at large. I use boges too sometimes and taking a 12 second hit off that, if that doesn't make you cough nothing will. The other thing you can do is try smoktech 1.7 ohm cartomizers (often referred to as the Resurrector) or if you can find anything with even lower resistance than that it will increase the vapor production on a low voltage device like the one you have.
About the ejuice usage, if you get a tank you will wish you had a cartomizer. Tanks eat up juice like no one's business. In short, it gets worse. Genesis atomizers are notoriously bad for eating juice.
If you are concerned about the cost of juice I would highly recommend reading up on DIY juice and watch a couple videos on YouTube about it so you can get a nice overview. Wizardlabs is currently the cheapest place to get flavorless nicotine solution. I would recommend 60mg strength to anyone who uses 18-24mg strength juice. If you are vaping less than that, then I would recommend maybe the 48mg strength. If you use PG in your juice then get 100% pg mix because between VG and PG, PG is the more expensive ingredient and they both cost the same in the nicotine liquid. If you are vaping less than 18-24mg and you were a pack a day or more smoker I'd recommend that you up your nic strength. Get both 18mg and 24mg strength. I find that a 70/30 PG/VG mix is best for cartomizers. If you get a higher VG ratio and a lower PG ratio than that the thickness of the juice may be troublesome as far as wicking in most regular cartomizers or tanks. 24mg is for the tough times and 18mg is to ride on. That's what I did but I stuck with the 24mg. For me as a DIY Juicer it is costing me around 20 cents a day to vape in juice. There's no cheaper way to vape than that and it sure as heck beats the $4.65 a pack I was paying before (for Marlboro Special Blends, the cheapie version).
About the ejuice usage, if you get a tank you will wish you had a cartomizer. Tanks eat up juice like no one's business. In short, it gets worse. Genesis atomizers are notoriously bad for eating juice.
If you are concerned about the cost of juice I would highly recommend reading up on DIY juice and watch a couple videos on YouTube about it so you can get a nice overview. Wizardlabs is currently the cheapest place to get flavorless nicotine solution. I would recommend 60mg strength to anyone who uses 18-24mg strength juice. If you are vaping less than that, then I would recommend maybe the 48mg strength. If you use PG in your juice then get 100% pg mix because between VG and PG, PG is the more expensive ingredient and they both cost the same in the nicotine liquid. If you are vaping less than 18-24mg and you were a pack a day or more smoker I'd recommend that you up your nic strength. Get both 18mg and 24mg strength. I find that a 70/30 PG/VG mix is best for cartomizers. If you get a higher VG ratio and a lower PG ratio than that the thickness of the juice may be troublesome as far as wicking in most regular cartomizers or tanks. 24mg is for the tough times and 18mg is to ride on. That's what I did but I stuck with the 24mg. For me as a DIY Juicer it is costing me around 20 cents a day to vape in juice. There's no cheaper way to vape than that and it sure as heck beats the $4.65 a pack I was paying before (for Marlboro Special Blends, the cheapie version).
Let me remind you im a super noob! and thanks for the info very very helpful but what is a PV?
PV= Personal Vaporizer (i.e. e-cig)
My issue was the same. TH (Throat Hit [There's a whole encyclopedia of abbreviations
]) was kinda uncomfortable to me. I wanted a "chest hit", like you say. I found that high VG nicquids worked better in that department. I buy 100% VG nicquids from blumemistvaping with extra flavor and thin them with PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol [Everclear or Golden Grain]) and a little PG.
VG is Vegetable Glycerine (Bigger clouds/Thicker vapor)
PG is Propylene Glycol (Harsher TH)
Wlecome to ECF!
My issue was the same. TH (Throat Hit [There's a whole encyclopedia of abbreviations
]) was kinda uncomfortable to me. I wanted a "chest hit", like you say. I found that high VG nicquids worked better in that department. I buy 100% VG nicquids from blumemistvaping with extra flavor and thin them with PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol [Everclear or Golden Grain]) and a little PG.VG is Vegetable Glycerine (Bigger clouds/Thicker vapor)
PG is Propylene Glycol (Harsher TH)
Wlecome to ECF!
PV= Personal Vaporizer (i.e. e-cig)
My issue was the same. TH (Throat Hit [There's a whole encyclopedia of abbreviations
VG is Vegetable Glycerine (Bigger clouds)
PG is Propylene Glycol
The dirty details for the noob, not Dougiestyle ( I just used your quote, homie):
You'd be better off getting into DIY (do it yourself) juice for that. It's really not difficult. By taking commercial juice and thinning it out (which is a common and very viable practice) in order for it to wick better you are also effectively diluting the nicotine percentage per mg (milligram). If you were to do this I would recommend going a step up on the nicotine strength from your comfortable level. For example, in a 5mg bottle of juice if you add an extra mg of PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol - i.e. Everclear or cheap 151 vodka if Everclear is illegal in your state as it is in mine) or distilled water you are lowering your nicotine strength by 20%. If it was 24mg strength now it's 19.2mg. If you were to bring the thickness down to what I consider reasonable levels (around 30-40% VG so I'm told) you could easily wipe out the effectiveness of the juice. See the problem? So with DIY and a juice calculator like my favorite "Ejuicemeup" (it's free, google's your friend) you can easily account for that and keep your nicotine levels where you want them. Plus, from what I understand, the more PG the more the flavor comes through, the more VG the more vapor you get. Finding the balance that works in your equipment and works for you is the hardest part of your journey in the beginning.
I'm really not an expert on VG juices though since I stick to 70/30 and no more than 60/40 PG to VG mix which is what a veteran told me to do when I first started and I told him I was going to get 50/50. I have not DIY'd any pure VG juices because, for me in my equipment, I get enough dry hits as it is, and I can't get Everclear as I mentioned before (which is 195 proof if I remember correctly). VG is generally considered safer to vape because of its higher flash temperature than PG and I'm told that PG can make acrolein, which is a toxic substance that comes from burning PG, and glycerin (but VGs flash temp is higher). 7.5mg is the safe point per day according to the WHO (World Health Organization) though and most people vape maybe 3mg a day of ejuice - a small fraction of which is turned into acrolein. Acrolein is used as an herbacide in case you care.
Note that some people are allergic to PG (propylene glycol - one of the main ingredients in most ejuices) and so they are forced to vape VG (Vegetable Glycerin). I know of no one who uses 100% PG, but I'm not saying they don't exist. Picking your nicotine solution for DIY juice you will have to decide between PG and VG (usually 100% of either or a 50/50% mix). If PG is going to be in your juice I recommend 100% PG because VG is cheap as can be (3 bucks will get you a 6-8 month supply at walmart) while PG can be expensive ($10+ for as little as a 3 month supply depending on your ratio). The cost of the nicotine solution is the same no matter which solution you buy (100% PG, 100% VG or 50/50). If reducing costs is your thing this is very solid advice on how to save money vaping. Me? I'm a budget vaper.
I'm pretty sure I got my facts 100% right on this post.
By far the favored carto for a 3.7 PV is the Smok Tech 1.7 XL Single Coil aka the Resurrector- holds 1.8 ml juice and kicks like a horse. You can buy them at CC either in 15 or 5 Packs
Crystal Clear Vaping
Here's a review:
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 10%
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
Crystal Clear Vaping
Here's a review:
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 10%
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
I agree with Vapoor eyes er and PBusardo.
Yesterday I took a Boge 2.0 loaded with some new juice to work with me.
A couple of hours into my day and I was hitting on it pretty hard and not getting what I wanted using my 3.7V box mod.
I switched the Boge out with a Resurrector and all is well in the world.
IMO the Smoktech's give you the right amount of TH and vapor for a 3.7V device.
I think I am gonna order some in the standard length (non XL) for use with my smaller devices.
Yesterday I took a Boge 2.0 loaded with some new juice to work with me.
A couple of hours into my day and I was hitting on it pretty hard and not getting what I wanted using my 3.7V box mod.
I switched the Boge out with a Resurrector and all is well in the world.
IMO the Smoktech's give you the right amount of TH and vapor for a 3.7V device.
I think I am gonna order some in the standard length (non XL) for use with my smaller devices.
I also agree with Vapoor.
Throat/chest hit is mainly increased by increasing the nicotine level of your eliquid. Most common nic level used is 18 - 24mg but there are many who use 36mg nicotine eliquid to get a more pronouced throat hit. Either a higher percentage of PG or all PG eliquid allows more of the throat hit from the nicotine to come through.
Warmer vapor does seem to enhance (not create) throat hit. I would have gotten the 5 volt GLV2 and skipped the 3.7 volt model. A good 5 volt or variable volt model PV will provide warmer vapor without the downside of using low resistence atomizers/cartomizers.
1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizers on a 5 volt or variable volt (set to 4.5 - 5.0 volt) PV will also provide warmer vapor.
Throat/chest hit is mainly increased by increasing the nicotine level of your eliquid. Most common nic level used is 18 - 24mg but there are many who use 36mg nicotine eliquid to get a more pronouced throat hit. Either a higher percentage of PG or all PG eliquid allows more of the throat hit from the nicotine to come through.
Warmer vapor does seem to enhance (not create) throat hit. I would have gotten the 5 volt GLV2 and skipped the 3.7 volt model. A good 5 volt or variable volt model PV will provide warmer vapor without the downside of using low resistence atomizers/cartomizers.
1.5 ohm dual coil cartomizers on a 5 volt or variable volt (set to 4.5 - 5.0 volt) PV will also provide warmer vapor.
The thing that caught my eye was the $4.65 a pack of smokes, I was paying $10.30 a pack in NY, these people are nuts here to pay that.
wow! I just got schooled! I feel like im in class again learning all this new and interesting thing about juices and ecigs. BIG thanks to all of the input
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