Noobie guide from a Noobie

[iJax]

OHM's Law

I=V/R = amps
or voltage divided by resistance = amps

3.7 volts divided by 1.8 ohms = 2.05 amps

Power or Watts is Amps X volts. In this case 2.05 x 3.7 = 7.585 watts

a standard carto is about 2.5 ohms or 5.476 watts

plus cartos are $1.60... so 1 a week isn't bad for the TH benefit

correct...I am an electrician among other things.
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but thats not what you said and what I posted a reply to...

Got my LR Cartos in. LR Boge 1.8 ohm LR (low resistance) Cartos.....really big improvement, better TH. Battery life seems fine. Would highly recommend this approach. Pretty close to a 5volt passthrough. Really makes my move away from carts a done deal.

do the math.....
1.8ohms at 5v = 2.7 amps and 13.88 watts.....as you draw on a carto it heats up...heat rises resistance drops...on a passthrough there is no limiting...so that 5v is steady while that 1.8ohm is dropping = 14watts very quickly.

I stand by my statement. Be careful, on a long draw with a LR carto in a PT you can burn it up quickly. I understand you were not saying use a LR on a PT...i was warning why you should not.

 

[Led Zaper]

correct...I am an electrician among other things.
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but thats not what you said and what I posted a reply to...


do the math.....
1.8ohms at 5v = 2.7 amps and 13.88 watts.....as you draw on a carto it heats up...heat rises resistance drops...on a passthrough there is no limiting...so that 5v is steady while that 1.8ohm is dropping = 14watts very quickly.

I stand by my statement. Be careful, on a long draw with a LR carto in a PT you can burn it up quickly. I understand you were not saying use a LR on a PT...i was warning why you should not.

I see what you're saying. I didn't make it clear.

I was saying (or meant) that vaping on 3.7 volt LR carto was similiar to vaping on a reg carto with a 5v passthrough. That's why I said "Pretty close to a 5volt passthrough". ("pretty close" was the inference).

I should make that clear in my 1st post. Thanks for bringing that up, as it's confusing if not made overly obvious.

 

[iJax]

cool man. Just remember if all you have is LR cartos...what are you going to use in your passthrough?

I see what you're saying. I didn't make it clear.

I was saying (or meant) that vaping on 3.7 volt LR carto was similiar to vaping on a reg carto with a 5v passthrough. That's why I said "Pretty close to a 5volt passthrough". ("pretty close" was the inference).

I should make that clear in my 1st post. Thanks for bringing that up, as it's confusing if not made overly obvious.

 

[Led Zaper]

cool man. Just remember if all you have is LR cartos...what are you going to use in your passthrough?

I got the LR cartos so I wouldn't have to be tethered to a PT. That was the whole idea. With the battery life of the Ego, I'm vaping for 6-7 hours on LR's and lovin it. LR is the way to go for me!

BTW - I still have reg cartos if I need to use PT, so again all my bases are covered.

 

[191ahc]

Thought this post might do well bumped occasionally.

 

[Led Zaper]

Thought this post might do well bumped occasionally.

Thanks for the bump!

I really think we need to simplify this for noobs. Without tooting my own horn, I wish I had read this before purchasing.

While the tutorials here are excellent, you almost have to tell a noob what to do and give them a good base. I think the Joye510 is NOT the right start and limits you to use time as well as the ability to go LR if desired (Low resistance atomizers or cartomizers, which would severely shorten a 510 battery life).

I am going to do a e-liquid review section toward the end of the week, which is another area of extreme confusion for noobs (and a lot of vets too!)

 

[Hoppyy]

Simply stated, the 510 is great for the "light vapor". BUT WHO ENDS UP AS A LIGHT VAPEOR?

Excellent post. Hi and welcome to EFC

 

[Led Zaper]

Simply stated, the 510 is great for the "light vapor". BUT WHO ENDS UP AS A LIGHT VAPEOR?

Excellent post. Hi and welcome to EFC

Exactly

 

[Schlitz]

super post! I'll be sharing this link, thanks again!

 

[Led Zaper]

super post! I'll be sharing this link, thanks again!

Glad I could help!

 

[191ahc]

Bumped for newbies. Good advice here, IMHO.

 

[FreakyStylie]

I'll post to keep this bumped. Good stuff for noobs to read. I am so thankful I found this place before I started vaping!

Bumpin'

Still thankful for ECF. Great place for the holidays! There are plenty of fun contests and games!

Noobs should definitely click the what's new button and scan the supplier's posts and see what fun they can find!

 

[Linda Marie]

ego - ego - ego

 

[mlinky]

Great advice! Wish I would have seen this at first, but it's actually what I ended up with, and now on my 4th day analog-free.

 

[Jmitchelliv]

OHM's Law

I=V/R = amps
or voltage divided by resistance = amps

3.7 volts divided by 1.8 ohms = 2.05 amps

Power or Watts is Amps X volts. In this case 2.05 x 3.7 = 7.585 watts

a standard carto is about 2.5 ohms or 5.476 watts

plus cartos are $1.60... so 1 a week isn't bad for the TH benefit

Dude, I haven't even THOUGHT about Ohm's law since my MECP classes back in the early 2000's. Thanks for the blast from the past.

... oh... and the sound reasoning too. Thanks for that.

 

[Hexnut]

Good post. I started w provape pv1 and am beta testing the provari. Unbelievable battery life (17-19 hrs) and regulated voltage that keeps the first hit as strong as the last. LED variable voltage kicks .... A real winner and game changer imho...

 

[hairball]

FDA was shot down folks. We're safe for now.

Riva kits are basically the same as the eGo's. Slightly bigger battery and you can get them in 901 or 510. eGo's are only 510's. Also, do not use low resistant atomizers on standard batteries. It will kill your battery. Some people also have problems using LR's on the eGo/Riva batteries. LR's are meant for 3.7v batteries (neither kit puts out over 3.4v even though they say 3.7v). Majority of people use the LR's on mods with take out rechargeable batteries. At a true 3.7v, LR's mimic 5v vaping.

 

[Ardeagold]

This is a great thread. I'm bumping too.

One thing I think needs to be covered for Newbies, is what kind, and how many different types of chargers they may need. I can only comment on the 510, since that's what I have right now.

The charger that comes with the kit certainly won't be sufficient for someone out and about all day long with a 510 (even with two fully charged batteries), unless they only puff very occasionally. The batteries will die in an hour or hour and a half.

Here's what I found I need, at the barest minimum, to keep going all day with a 510 (using the two batteries that come with a double kit)

Regular house/plug charger (which comes with the starter kit) to get them both fully charged per the instructions prior to using

pcc charger (separate purchase), which charges one battery while you're using the other

USB converter for the car (since my car doesn't have a USB port)... to be able to keep the pcc charged if I'm on the road (also separate purchase)

I'd also strongly suggest purchasing a couple of extra batteries, just to have on hand. The XL's do hold a charge much longer, but they cannot be charged in the pcc.

I prefer the 510's because I smoked Capri's for 20 years, and they're much slimmer than even Virginia Slims. However, I suspect I'll be using something like an eGo while in the house, and probably with a passthrough.

Topping off the carts is a PITA, but if you get some (a bunch of) extra empty carts, they can be prefilled at home and taken out with you, since they're very inexpensive. (Of course taking some juice along is a good idea too...just in case)

I found myself buying something every day just to get properly "set up". I think I'm set now, except for juice, which I'm working on.

 

[j3ffr0]

To refill, add 10 drops at a time along the inner sidewalls of cartos and then snap it in a downward motion like you would on a mercury thermometer. This drives the juice downward. Keep adding 10 at a time, rinse repeat. I usually stop at 30 drops.

What a great tip! I've recently started refilling cartos (cartridge/atomizer) and just filled one up using this method while reading the post. I've noticed a lot more flavor, etc.

I'm sure this will help the filling material from getting burned up if it is saturated with e-liquid. I didn't realize it until later, but I was burning up some of the filling material in the carto. Most likely due to vaping too much without setting the PV down for more than 1.234 seconds.

Other tips that were helpful to me when starting (that I read from other posts):

- Take smooth, slow draws on the PV (Personal Vaporizer)
- If the cartomizer seems clogged, take it off the battery and blow through the end (opposite of where you put your mouth).
Blow it into a paper towel or something and then wipe the excess e-liquid off the tip (to prevent that getting on your mouth).

Thanks again,

j3ffr0

 

[mlinky]

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