Good luck dlsw. It is almost like learning a foreign language that you have to translate using a 2nd foreign language.
That is a perfect analogy for me!! I speak spanish and teach ESL.
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That is a perfect analogy for me!! I speak spanish and teach ESL.
Wow I was right without knowing it. See, even a broken clock is right twice a day!!!
Vets who post here are just trying to be helpful, though sometimes we forget what it was like to be new. That said, get a mod!
Vets who post here are just trying to be helpful, though sometimes we forget what it was like to be new. That said, get a mod!
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Verrry Funny MarkFM. Most vets are VERY helpful. Even those who push mods give valuable information that most of us could not find from any other source and future readers will find that information and will be able to use it to their advantage to research just the right device for them. Vape it if you got it!!!!
For me, it was 808's to mods, then to eGo's, then I discovered Mega Dual Coil cartos for my eGo......fell in love and now switch off between them and mods with Dual Coil Mega XXL's that fit them. I got tired of filling a carto every 5 minutes and get as much vapor as I can ever possibly want. And no itch for analogs at all!!! All thanks to ECF, the knowledge gained in these pages, and you guys---my new friends sharing our new vaping hobby!!!
I agree as well just wish there was a local vender for some of the stuff we need. The smoke shop i got started with carry V4L batteries and carts, when googled it i found a different site and it all started form there and that was in September 2011 and now i'm into the ego tank, vv mod, and mixing my own. Wonder if i'm going to start saving money. I guess when i can get my oddy and new flavorings as tobacco aren't cutting it.
Yeah, I bought a rebranded kr808, and thought I was making an informed decision because I read blogs about different suppliers, only to find out that I am back at square one, literally knowing nothing about the vaping community and feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I think it is perhaps even more general than that...
As much as we all here on ECF preach that everyone is different, I think sometimes we forget that everyone is different.
If there is anything I have learned on ECF it is that everyone really is different.
And I have also learned equally well that it appears to be very easy to forget that everyone really is different.
That first kit, for new vapers, is so hit and miss. Even here, a lot of vets are offering great advice on what newcomers should get, but there are, like, about 50 different kits being suggested. The good thing is, most of the kits have been vetted already, so you don't get steered wrong too much--it's just a matter of finding the hardware that's right for you.
Cheers to that! I fully agree cheechako... ECF community's been incredibly supportive.
Well with me its the other way, i started with a super mini, bigger than cigarette but it was ok to start with, then i had a dse901 which is ok... but has crappy parts. Now i am thinking about going down to a realis because they are the exact same size as a cig and even though i will buy myself an ego or whatever in the future for now i feel as though a realis is deal for me and i have been vaping for quite a while.
As far as I know - poor people should not buy cheap products. Buy cheap - get cheap.
Before buying - look around, watch other people and learn about mistakes they've made. It's easier and cheaper way to learn from about other peoples mistakes, than Your own.
Just watch, see and listen. Take Your time - and then buy the one and only equipment You really need.
Before buying - look around, watch other people and learn about mistakes they've made. It's easier and cheaper way to learn from about other peoples mistakes, than Your own.
Just watch, see and listen. Take Your time - and then buy the one and only equipment You really need.
actually, I initially bough the greensmoke because it looked like a cig, and it was expensive. Yes, i went after something expensive thinking I will get the best stuff... little did I know that for the money I spent on a greensmoke kit could've bought me a provari!
The vets on ECF are really trying their best to help out noobs, but it's kinda like parental advice....
.. the kids seem always have to learn some lessons the hard way, and the parents can't explain well enough to be understood. Keep reading, experimenting and find your own sweet spot, (you can guess from my sig I'm past the 510 stick phase...)
I would challenge all the beginners to bookmark this thread and come back and read it again, when you've been vaping a year (YES, you can do it !!!) And the old timers to go back and find some of their posts from a year ago (always great for a laugh and perspective)
.. the kids seem always have to learn some lessons the hard way, and the parents can't explain well enough to be understood. Keep reading, experimenting and find your own sweet spot, (you can guess from my sig I'm past the 510 stick phase...)I would challenge all the beginners to bookmark this thread and come back and read it again, when you've been vaping a year (YES, you can do it !!!) And the old timers to go back and find some of their posts from a year ago (always great for a laugh and perspective)
I recommend an E-Power, Riva or Kgo most often to new vapers. But what I don't get is how people who have never used a standard 5 volt model such as the GLV or a GG or a Darwin throw out this BS that they are "complicated"??????????? Please explain how screwing on an atty or carto, pressing the button and vaping is any more complicated that using a standard 510????????? You do the same thing but get a better vape. There is nothing complicated about it. I hate to see people make these assumptions to new members and scare them off from trying more than one model. Vaping is not brain surgery.
How many of us ex-smokers had, or still have, a Zippo collection? How often did the we women buy new cigarette-cases (when you could still find them)? How many stepped up to cigars or pipes during their smoking years?
The first e-cig I ever saw in use was an Ego-T. It was on a lanyard and the user held it parallel to their body and bent their head down to it. IMO at the time - weird. I wanted no part of it. The second was using a Rough Stack - bright purple. Still held it parallel to their body and bent their head down to it. IMO at the time - even more weird. I definitely wanted not part of it!! Then I was handed a 510 manual slim and was told to just sit back, play around with it, and enjoy. Within an hour I found myself with my elbow propped up on the table, the PV comfortably hanging out the corner of my mouth at a analog angle and I was pressing the button and taking drags causally, without thought, while laughing and enjoying the fun. I went home with that PV that very night and never felt "weird". If the batteries had longer life between charges, I'd still be enjoying that small, light-weight, ink-pen looking device with every drag, BUT the battery issue became added stress while in detox. Forever fearful I'd be without working equipment and would convert back, I bumped it up. And I've seen the look on a newbie's face when they saw my ego E-power and I know they thought it "weird" although the comment was "fancy".
I remember those first impressions clearly and completely relate to those who want small, analog-like. AND I thoroughly understand the transitioning steps many end up making to more power, more consistancy, more ease of use in their own time.
As another posted . . . . everyone is different!!
Just keep at it and let the analogs go!!!!!!!
The first e-cig I ever saw in use was an Ego-T. It was on a lanyard and the user held it parallel to their body and bent their head down to it. IMO at the time - weird. I wanted no part of it. The second was using a Rough Stack - bright purple. Still held it parallel to their body and bent their head down to it. IMO at the time - even more weird. I definitely wanted not part of it!! Then I was handed a 510 manual slim and was told to just sit back, play around with it, and enjoy. Within an hour I found myself with my elbow propped up on the table, the PV comfortably hanging out the corner of my mouth at a analog angle and I was pressing the button and taking drags causally, without thought, while laughing and enjoying the fun. I went home with that PV that very night and never felt "weird". If the batteries had longer life between charges, I'd still be enjoying that small, light-weight, ink-pen looking device with every drag, BUT the battery issue became added stress while in detox. Forever fearful I'd be without working equipment and would convert back, I bumped it up. And I've seen the look on a newbie's face when they saw my ego E-power and I know they thought it "weird" although the comment was "fancy".
I remember those first impressions clearly and completely relate to those who want small, analog-like. AND I thoroughly understand the transitioning steps many end up making to more power, more consistancy, more ease of use in their own time.
As another posted . . . . everyone is different!!
Just keep at it and let the analogs go!!!!!!!
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For some, and by "some" I mean quite a fair percentage, it is important to have that analog look and feel if only to at least get over the hump of quitting analogs.
It depends on your attitude to smoking. Some will be disgusted with smoking and want nothing to do with it and want to stand apart from smokers in every way possible while vaping from a box. Others will just decide that they want to stop inhaling tobacco smoke but still aren't ready to completely let go of every single other aspect of smoking.
Personally I'm glad that we have the option of analog lookalikes because without them I wouldn't be vaping now. I enjoyed many aspects of smoking, not the expense or the health risks, but there's more to smoking than that. And having a device that mimics those aspects yet has numerous benefits is a powerful tool for bringing smokers into vaping.
That said, there are some truly disgusting analog style kits out there, lucky we have a forum full of people that still remember what it was like to be a newbie and who have differing experiences and attitudes.
The newbies are bound to find someone that understands them, which is a good thing.
For some, and by "some" I mean quite a fair percentage, it is important to have that analog look and feel if only to at least get over the hump of quitting analogs.
It depends on your attitude to smoking. Some will be disgusted with smoking and want nothing to do with it and want to stand apart from smokers in every way possible while vaping from a box. Others will just decide that they want to stop inhaling tobacco smoke but still aren't ready to completely let go of every single other aspect of smoking.
Personally I'm glad that we have the option of analog lookalikes because without them I wouldn't be vaping now. I enjoyed many aspects of smoking, not the expense or the health risks, but there's more to smoking than that. And having a device that mimics those aspects yet has numerous benefits is a powerful tool for bringing smokers into vaping.
That said, there are some truly disgusting analog style kits out there, lucky we have a forum full of people that still remember what it was like to be a newbie and who have differing experiences and attitudes.
The newbies are bound to find someone that understands them, which is a good thing.
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