Now I have Icon questions

[tplaisance]

First, thanks to everyone who answered my questions regarding the V3.

I haven't purchased it yet, cause, well...I'm a little afraid 6V will be just too much to handle..

If I get the icon instead, can I still use regular cartos with them? What in the world is a LR atty? Will a lr atty just make the icon vape at a higher voltage? I think that's what it means, but i'm not sure. And then there's the protected, unprotected batt issue. What's that all about? (I new to this vaping thing, as you can tell..) But I haven't smoked a real cigarette in 1 month and this is my gift to myself.

I have a pt that i use and like it sometimes, but sometimes it can be harsh, kwim? I guess some days I need a kick in the pants and some days i dont..lol

Thanks again.

 

[GregH]

You can use regular cartos with the Icon, just like with any other 3.7v device. LR atties/cartos are used to simulate ~5v vaping at 3.7v. The drawback is the drain on the batteries. So if you use a regular 14500 battery, you're going to be taxing the battery because of the added drain and shorten its useful life. (And shorten time between charges as well.) So, while not required, I recommend that you get some high-drain 14500s (IMR 14500 batteries) to use with LR atties.

Regarding protected/unprotected batteries, AFAIK, it's really not an issue in a single battery application. Most of the problems occur in a 2-battery stacked configuration. You're not going to be able to drain the battery below safe levels. The vapor is going to diminish enough to where you're going to know when to change batteries before then. That being said, you can use protected AW 14500 batteries (Pure Smoker sells them). But you'll have to remove the washers under the contact screw to make them fit. However, I have been using unprotected 14500s for almost a year with no problems. I used the regular ones when all that was available were standard resistance atties. When LR options came along, I switched to the IMRs.

 

[Jemur]

Keep in mind you can use the V3 at 3.7 as well as 6v, which is handy.
So with one PV, you can get 6v, 3.7, or ~5v (with the 3.7 battery + low res cartos/attys).

That said, my wife prefers her ICON w/ low res cartos, but doesn't care for my V3 ...mostly because the ICON is smaller and "fits" her better.

 

[tplaisance]

Thanks for the help. I ordered an Icon today!! Can't wait to get it.

 

[buGG]

Keep in mind you can use the V3 at 3.7 as well as 6v, which is handy.
So with one PV, you can get 6v, 3.7, or ~5v (with the 3.7 battery + low res cartos/attys).

That said, my wife prefers her ICON w/ low res cartos, but doesn't care for my V3 ...mostly because the ICON is smaller and "fits" her better.

yep, and don't forget 7.4V. with a VHV or XHV atty rated at 5.2 ohms, using two AW IMR16340 batteries hits the same sweet spot (heat/watts) as a (resistored) 5V setup, and for a longer period of time!!!!

 

[Jemur]

Good to know, BuGG, I'll def have to give that a go ...just because .. I can

 

[teabagger]

if you get a icon and want to try 6v get the 14250 cr2's. they work awsome.

 

[buGG]

nobody remembers the LiFePO4 CR2 [15270] incident...

if these are in fact LiFePO4 batteries, they have a nominal voltage of 3.2V and should be charged to 3.6V...not to 4.2 or 4.4V like some other li-ion batteries. the problem is, you can't trust the mAh rating and even if you did, you would be hard pressed to find a commercially available charger that would not charge these cells at a faster rate than intended and one that is safe for the battery overall. you're talking about a 200mA max charging channel for these cells, but preferably something lower than that. this disqualifies the Tenergy LiFePO4 charger, the Ultrafire WF-188, and WF-138 as well. after you've charged them, you have to deal with the fact that they do not have the drain rate to handle the amp draw of the atomizers we are using at 6V. this unnecessary stress on the batteries is not safe, risks voltage sag, and increases the likelihood of discharging the cell beyond a safe limit. over-discharging is quite likely given the small size and inadequate discharge rates of these batteries to begin with, and with repeated use, charge after charge, these cells have an increased potential to be damaged and/or damaging.

6V is for CR123a/ 16340 cells and bigger...that's what the V3 does. and even then, you want to make sure that you have a charger that meets the requirements of your batteries, you want to be sure that you have batteries with discharge rates qualified to handle the amp draw of the atomizer you're using, and you want to be sure that you take the necessary precautions in battery use and care to keep things going as they should for as long as they should, and then know when to get rid of them and start fresh.

6V is nice, no argument there, but only with the right equipment and under conditions safe enough to meet the need.

 

[Vaporologist]

As usual, nice post buGG!