Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

[Sun Vaporer]

Ok, so who's prepared to lobby congress and request an audience with the senate? I think that's what it's going to take to make a difference.

We need a representative...Someone that's educated, well spoken, well read and ready to do work. A disorganized letter writing / email campaign isn't likely to have a major impact on anything. This issue shouldn't be shotgunned, it should be surgically handled...

Personally, I think the suppliers should select one or two people as spokespersons for the cause and those people should begin collecting the data and support necessary to get this thing noticed. Those suppliers should be calling televisions, newspapers, radio stations and magazines. They should be getting the issue known to the general public and sending out a rallying cry to smokers and non-smokers alike. A few hundred people from ECF aren't going to make much of a dent but if you guys get the public behind the issue and make it as huge and as visible as possible then there's the possibility of seeing some positive change.

I've said this before and it seemed like nobody wanted to listen...Get the masses to speak and make sure people all over the country know what vaping is. Organize and make it happen.

Terraphon--I would concur with what you have said here 100%. We need two good spokespeople and a lot of PR to make any difference. I have repeated many times that the clock was running and that constructive action needs to be advanced. So lets all get on the same page and get going!! --Sun

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Terraphon--I would concur with what you have said here 100%. We need two good spokespeople and a lot of PR to make any difference. I have repeated many times that the clock was running and that constructive action needs to be advanced. So lets all get on the same page and get going!! --Sun

Sun - As soon as we can release details we will. However, we have several PR possibilities who are very familiar with the Hill and it will be good. Hang tight. There is still sunshine. I promise. We are just in a time sensitive situation and THIS is the next step.

 

[applefr3ak]

Thats what the association is all about, we are working very hard to get things rolling as quick as possible!! We also have been talking to people on the "hill" etc as Joanna said

Jason

 

[lordmage]

while not a supplier i have already done so and sent my letters out when i found out about the fda issue going on. i have sent it to every Democrat and replucian in each district and also fed side as well. but i think it was either not read seen or cared about all i have gotten back is one auto response from the office in my local area thanking me for contacting them.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

We have been informed that emails do not get read. Period. The letters must be sent via mail and that certified is the way to go. But yes... Mage thank you for your efforts!

 

[applefr3ak]

We all really appreciate it too Mage... seriously.

Jason

 

[MrsJaaxx]

Mass email sent.

Let's cover them up with polite and respectful emails about how e-cigs have changed our lives.

 

[applefr3ak]

Thanks a lot Miss Jaaxx!!!

 

[Terraphon]

I can pretty much guarantee you that most pen and paper mail doesn't get read, either. All of the senators and congressmen have assistants who open and screen their mail. A few people sending letters will NOT get noticed. Oh, I'll go ahead and send letters to my congressman and my senator and my governor and my mayor...hell, I'll even send one to POTUS, himself but that's not going to change anything.

Get on the stick and make an issue out of this. Remember the old saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"? Well, the wheel has to squeak loud enough to be heard and this ain't the way to do it.

 

[MonkeyMonk]

Lacey, If I understand you correctly we send a hand written/typed letter to each of the people listed plus our own guys.

We have the list, but can you edit to include each person's correct title and address.

Can you please give us a brief outline of the key issues we need to address in our letters. This would be of great help to me to ensure that I don't skip over something important.

Also, a list of any issues to avoid mentioning.

I will be signing-off shortly, but will check-in early and complete the letters in the morning.

 

[fenez]

Amen terraphon, the suppliers need some serious representation and someone has to get this stuff fda approved already

 

[Monroe]

Get on the stick and make an issue out of this. Remember the old saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"? Well, the wheel has to squeak loud enough to be heard and this ain't the way to do it.

Better to squeak a little, than to not squeak at all

 

[Steph2323]

Terraphon-

We are already working through that and our presence on the hill will be quite strong. I am so sorry we cannot provide further details, we are still in the throws and many of us are working non-stop. There will be details as soon as they can be released. You have to trust in us that this is the action that needs to be taken and if we are going to do this, it needs to be organized.

Please, as consumers, what we need is for you to write. We are working on the PR angles, the hill angle etc. Everything is covered. What we NEED are the users to make their presence known and that a bill eliminating smokeless tobacco products would definitely impact your life in a negative way.

I think we need to trust the suppliers on this and follow their direction. Writing letters can make a difference, IF, enough of us get on board and make it happen. We now have a specific list of congress members to contact. We owe it to ourselves to have our voices heard.
Stephanie

 

[nycsublimegirl]

I think we need to trust the suppliers on this and follow their direction. Writing letters can make a difference, IF, enough of us get on board and make it happen. We now have a specific list of congress members to contact. We owe it to ourselves to have our voices heard.
Stephanie

YES! getting involved is all we ask... ask your parents, brothers, sisters, friends and family...who support that you now vape to join in and lobby as well!!!

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Terraphon- Thank You.

Monkey - Yes. At this point, there are tons of letters floating around for great examples. However, the best you can do is your own experience. Stay to what you know as fact and what you feel you can express with your pen. Stay true to yourself and to your experience with the ecig. A good question to answer or think about is: How would you be affected if the ecig was taken from you?

Sun - Thank You. I know I can count on ya! Still no party though... sorry.

Fenez - We have NO INTENTIONS of seeking FDA approval. We have full intentions of lobbying to be a self regulating industry.

 

[Terraphon]

Better to squeak a little, than to not squeak at all

Is that true or does the faint, constant droning eventually desensitize?

I'll say it again. A few hundred (MAYBE) people writing letters to their representatives isn't going to do a thing besides potentially irritate the people we want to have in our corner.

The government works like this : If you want something done you have to make such a huge issue out of it that they can't POSSIBLY ignore it without getting called out for it. It has to be SO BIG that the populace at large is interested in seeing the end of the story and forces the machine to act.

You're trying to take down a rhino with a BB-Gun...A BB-Gun that you're shooting and not even bothering to tell the BB's WHY they're being fired at the ... end of a rhino.

You guys have a really odd way of trying to drum up support, with all of the skull-duggery and cloak and dagger stuff.

 

[phylo]

This is real and not some kind of scare tactic.

I have also asked all of my customers to join us in our campaign to help keep e-cigarette's available..

If we all band together we can make a difference.

Phil
Still not receiving forum topic reply notifications (over 4 months now)

 

[Steph2323]

while not a supplier i have already done so and sent my letters out when i found out about the fda issue going on. i have sent it to every Democrat and replucian in each district and also fed side as well. but i think it was either not read seen or cared about all i have gotten back is one auto response from the office in my local area thanking me for contacting them.

I've rec'd the same auto reponses and it is really aggravating All we can do is to keep trying.
Stephanie

 

[fenez]

I have already written many letters. But why no fda approval?

 

[Terraphon]

Terraphon- Thank You.

Monkey - Yes. At this point, there are tons of letters floating around for great examples. However, the best you can do is your own experience. Stay to what you know as fact and what you feel you can express with your pen. Stay true to yourself and to your experience with the ecig. A good question to answer or think about is: How would you be affected if the ecig was taken from you?

Sun - Thank You. I know I can count on ya! Still no party though... sorry.

Fenez - We have NO INTENTIONS of seeking FDA approval. We have full intentions of lobbying to be a self regulating industry.

WHAT THE FU--?!

Are you people INSANE?! What, in the name of Phillip Morris' ball-sack would make you think - even for a SECOND - that the government would allow this?

You've seriously flipped your lids, haven't you?