Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**
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I think what Lacey is refering to (correct me if Im wrong Lacey) is that if the FDA were to give, say, a five year timeline, in which the proper testing could be done, and the proper findings submitted, that would allow for another thing to happen at the same time: during that five year period, a USA based business could be started (removing the stigma around "Made in unregulated China). We would then have a USA based PERSONAL VAPORIZER manufacturer that has internal safety and quality control oversight, and not dependant on overseas importation. PV's I feel could be a self regulated business.
I am not sure of which self/non regulation you are speaking of that has caused "global melt-down" of any industries? Other than our own Government, who cannot be trusted to self regulate their own spendatures, thus contributing to the melt down of its own citizens. Maybe thats what you are talking about. In which case, all the more reason for them to keep thier grubby hands out of my smoking alternatives!
I believe industries such as weight lose products, vitamin suppliments, general nutrition suppliments, herbal alternatives, etc are unregulated industries. They are not experiencing global melt-down, they are billion dollar a year industries, doing alot of good for alot of people, with a tiny disclaimer required by the FDA.
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I was referring to a perception by people and the statement of Self regulation. As for being self regulated wouldn't that leave suppliers open for things like future health problems, quality issues..etc. If you are self regulated then you are taking it upon yourself all if any health damage these thing might or might now have on consumers, which could also lead to lawsuits to said self regulated industry.
Thanks very much for posting this, it will be helpful. You are recommending sending these by certified mail, is that right?
Sun - Sorry... had to go to bed last night it was 2:30 and couldn't stay awake for one more minute.
We are working with council and we will be presenting a statement today with further details.
I have noted all of the concerns in this thread and they will be addressed in the official statement.
As a consumer, you can count on me to do my part. I have already started dictating a letter. and to all of our suppliers. GIVE THEM HECK!!!!! remind them what free enterprise is all about. Our government is supposed to be for the people not themselves or personal interest.
OutWest, Thank you so very much for the list of addresses. This will be of great assistance.
Welcome. Thanks goes to Lacey for the original senator list. And yeah, she was recommending sending via certified mail.
I dug up the adresses because I figured that there's a better chance of them actually being read if sent to their home address, etc. That's what I'm going to do with my letter, mail it to senator's home address.
I would recommend that people double check the address. A couple of them I double checked through anywho.com and state election board candidate registration lists, but I havent made it all the way through the list yet.
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Thank you for the coming statement, Lacey/Joanna!
And whatever: lets not take that government adagium out of their hands by allready doing that ourselves right here and now... that adagium they are so fond of: 'DIVIDE AND CONQUER' !
To all the consumers, I to am a consumer and want to know all the details. I also handle PR and understand that time is of the essence. And there is probably going to be a lot of things that need to happen that we probably are not going agree with. so arguing between ourselves would only slow things down. The suppliers will have a better voice in Washington then we will as consumers. Step one is to put a halt or slow down on anything FDA is trying to get in place as far as banning. If the FDA succeeds in cutting off supplies we have lost the war. So as consumers we need to back the suppliers so we can try and keep the supplies moving as we fight this war. After we slow things down with the FDA trying to cut off for supplies, then as consumers it will be our job to keep the suppliers in check. Remember without consumers there is no suppliers.
Maybe it would have been a good idea to have provided us mere Consumers with the Statement and List of Suppliers in this Secret Society who you want Us to Support before starting this Thread.
Umm, aren't we supporting the action to delay a ban on PVs? I'm not sure why we are getting confused by supporting suppliers. The only call to action is for US vapers to contact their leaders via certfied mail. Let's not lose focus.
I still would like an outline of what to address. What is to be different in this letter from the other letters that we have sent.
Wow, i never thought I would be in a secret society...Joanna will have a statement out today.
My understanding with thsi stuff is to be very honest about your *own* personal experience and nothing else. No grand policy statements or anything like that. We have all heard the politicians on the stump read a story from "my friend Joanna in Japip. She tells the story of how her...." That's what you need to deliver. You want Ted Kennedy to stand up and say "My good friend FatMan from Terre Haute says that he never had friends before he started vaping and now his life is changed by the experience of being liked."
. You get the point: provide a sound bite.
Part of the problem is that there's not enough public awareness that this device exists or about what its doing for us and the people around us. Millions will need to know about it before public action will have an effect one way or another... but since it is too early for that, our best chance is to have certain powerful politicians and lobbyists who support our cause. So I tend to agree with Terraphon in that we need a surgical striking smart bomb.
I've mentioned before that perhaps a cry out for help to certain national celebrities and talk show hosts would help to bring some public awareness and support...such as Oprah Winfrey (and her Dr. Oz)...Dr Phil, Ellen Degeneres...heck, even try to have Jay Leno and Craig Fergesson work it into their monologues for heavens sake. We want to get our smoking politicians using this thing...if enough people in high places use it and like it, it will be supported.
Suppliers...get together and send a huge GIFT BASKET of ecigs and supplies to the white house, senate and congress (and dont forget the oprah show as well). We want all their smoking staff members to try this out as well.
I've mentioned before that perhaps a cry out for help to certain national celebrities and talk show hosts would help to bring some public awareness and support...such as Oprah Winfrey (and her Dr. Oz)...Dr Phil, Ellen Degeneres...heck, even try to have Jay Leno and Craig Fergesson work it into their monologues for heavens sake. We want to get our smoking politicians using this thing...if enough people in high places use it and like it, it will be supported.
Suppliers...get together and send a huge GIFT BASKET of ecigs and supplies to the white house, senate and congress (and dont forget the oprah show as well). We want all their smoking staff members to try this out as well.
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Yes, we are pulling all claims regarding health from all sites of people in the ECA. Now To squash Terraphon here.. Every supplier "Forum Member who buys in bulk"? You really need to know what you are talking about before you talk. Everyone in the association has to have a Legit business...That means Tax ID Numbers etc the works... we are not just sitting here with our thumbs in our rears.. Things are happening, we are talking to big people and trying to get everyones voices heard as much as possible. And yes All of you consumers will be heard. In due time. As a matter of fact.. we NEED you guys.. we have only just ASKED for your help.. None of this is a scare tactic or some crazy scheme.. We just asked you guys to voice yourselves to everyone you can...
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