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Your not a naysayer. This is a side of the argument that can't go ignored. However, there are a few things to take into account when it comes to these clinical trials they are "demanding".
First, why should the ecig have to go through clinical trials to prove itself an alternative to tobacco cigarettes? tobacco cigarettes are not held to such standards. The only reason one would need to have a clinical trial is to prove that the product in fact does help aid or treat or mitigate a disease. In effect, the trials would only prove that the electronic cigarette is a quit smoking device. Is it? Does it really get you to quit smoking?
Secondly, it doesn't matter what testing is done, or who proves what, as long as it isn't a pharmaceutical NRT it will not, and I cannot stress will not enough, ever be accepted by the American Cancer Society, nor tobacco Free Kids, nor American Legacy, nor American Lung Association. Why? Most of their funding comes from Pharmaceutical companies. Call and ask to speak to any of these groups. Two of them is an eye opening experience. They do not mention once quitting cold turkey. All of them offer you one option: Try one of the approved NRT's.
In one article, they demand for scientific studies to be done. So Ruyan did those. Then they said those weren't sufficient because they were paid for by the manufacturer (which 90% of all pharm trials are paid for by the manufacturer). Then, they said those won't work and they want "real world statistics". They have ECF but they won't acknowledge any of us.
The bottom line is, they do not want the ecig to succeed UNLESS it is funded and backed by a pharmaceutical company who offers large donations to their particular groups. That's why many of these Dr's like Nitzkin and Siegel are getting flogged by their anti-smoking comrades because they stopped taking the payoff and decided that public health should be the concern, not profits.
While I completely agree that more testing is 100% necessary because I personally would like to know more about what I am smoking
, I still firmly believe that until they force the tobacco cigarette to go through the strenuous tasks they are wanting the ecig to go through, they have absolutely no right to scream "it's in the public health interest" to demand these tests.
I mentioned in another post a few days ago that we must prove, as an industry, to the FDA, that we in fact are a cash cow and that will level the playing field for us with tobacco and pharmaceuticals. We are absolutely naive to believe that these will continue to go untaxed. We all figured they would tax us out of smoking, which they have done, but millions of people continue to smoke every day, regardless of the price of their cigarettes. In Canada, smokers still smoke even though their cigarettes are equivalent to $10 or more a pack. It doesn't stop them.
This quit or die society that we think we live in must seriously be turned on it's .... We have become complacent to allowing people to believe that it is ok to hate your neighbor and we have become permissive in thinking that it is ok to tell your neighbor what to do.
Your not a naysayer. This is a side of the argument that can't go ignored. However, there are a few things to take into account when it comes to these clinical trials they are "demanding".
First, why should the ecig have to go through clinical trials to prove itself an alternative to tobacco cigarettes? tobacco cigarettes are not held to such standards. The only reason one would need to have a clinical trial is to prove that the product in fact does help aid or treat or mitigate a disease. In effect, the trials would only prove that the electronic cigarette is a quit smoking device. Is it? Does it really get you to quit smoking?
Secondly, it doesn't matter what testing is done, or who proves what, as long as it isn't a pharmaceutical NRT it will not, and I cannot stress will not enough, ever be accepted by the American Cancer Society, nor tobacco Free Kids, nor American Legacy, nor American Lung Association. Why? Most of their funding comes from Pharmaceutical companies. Call and ask to speak to any of these groups. Two of them is an eye opening experience. They do not mention once quitting cold turkey. All of them offer you one option: Try one of the approved NRT's.
In one article, they demand for scientific studies to be done. So Ruyan did those. Then they said those weren't sufficient because they were paid for by the manufacturer (which 90% of all pharm trials are paid for by the manufacturer). Then, they said those won't work and they want "real world statistics". They have ECF but they won't acknowledge any of us.
The bottom line is, they do not want the ecig to succeed UNLESS it is funded and backed by a pharmaceutical company who offers large donations to their particular groups. That's why many of these Dr's like Nitzkin and Siegel are getting flogged by their anti-smoking comrades because they stopped taking the payoff and decided that public health should be the concern, not profits.
While I completely agree that more testing is 100% necessary because I personally would like to know more about what I am smoking
, I still firmly believe that until they force the tobacco cigarette to go through the strenuous tasks they are wanting the ecig to go through, they have absolutely no right to scream "it's in the public health interest" to demand these tests.I mentioned in another post a few days ago that we must prove, as an industry, to the FDA, that we in fact are a cash cow and that will level the playing field for us with tobacco and pharmaceuticals. We are absolutely naive to believe that these will continue to go untaxed. We all figured they would tax us out of smoking, which they have done, but millions of people continue to smoke every day, regardless of the price of their cigarettes. In Canada, smokers still smoke even though their cigarettes are equivalent to $10 or more a pack. It doesn't stop them.
This quit or die society that we think we live in must seriously be turned on it's .... We have become complacent to allowing people to believe that it is ok to hate your neighbor and we have become permissive in thinking that it is ok to tell your neighbor what to do.
