Now the end begins - As the Nations have done to Israel.... (Gen 12:3)

[cheymat]

Absolutely incorrect. Mohamed is NOT a god and never claimed to be and his followers never claim that he is. Remember their mantra," There is no god but Allah and Mohamed is his prophet "

If you begin from a place of wrongful assumption, your path is all the more perilous. Remove the stones from your path.

And if you're going to play the Moon God card, then you should be aware of the meaning of "El Shaddai" You are aware of it correct? That is the name of the Hebrew god, which becomes the Christian God. In the earliest translations, El Shaddai literally means God of the mountain. It isn't until later translations that El Shaddai is given new meanings like God the destroyer or God almighty.


So if you're going to point at savage man and say," See their god is false!" Then you have to be willing to look at the same archeological evidence about your own. If you're not willing to that that, you are not being objective and are looking into history, the Bible, now, and the future with bias. Free yourself of it. Lay it at Gods feet. Then look again at your brothers and sisters Christian, Hebrew and Muslim

This article is about the Judaic name of God. For other uses, see El Shaddai (disambiguation).
El Shaddai (Hebrew: אל שדי‎) is one of the Judaic names of God. El Shaddai is translated as God Almighty.

The term may mean "God of the mountains," referring to the Mesopotamian divine mountain.[1] The term was one of the patriarchal names for the tribal god of the Mesopotamians[1] In Exodus 6:3, El Shaddai is identified with Yahweh.[1] The term appears chiefly in the Torah. This could also refer to the Israelite camp's stay at Mount Sinai where God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.
Shaddai was a late Bronze Age Amorite city on the banks of the Euphrates river, in northern Syria. The site of its ruin-mound is called Tel eth-Thadyen: "Thadyen" being the modern Arabic rendering of the original West Semitic "Shaddai". It has been conjectured that El Shaddai was therefore the "God of Shaddai" and associated in tradition with Abraham, and the inclusion of the Abrahamic stories into the Hebrew Bible may have brought the northern name with them (see Documentary hypothesis).

El Shaddai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Saintscruiser]

It seems as though He did stand. Remember the stoning of Stephen the 1st martyr? I would like to think/believe that He (Jesus) stood out of care and quite possibly anger. If it were out of anger...the retribution for the persecution of Christians will be tremendous.

Uh, I didn't mean that He cannot ever rise from His throne. The point I was making upon His re-entrance to Heaven was that He sat at the right Hand of the Father....meaning His mission was completed. That's all.

 

[Southern Gent]

Uh, I didn't mean that He cannot ever rise from His throne. The point I was making upon His re-entrance to Heaven was that He sat at the right Hand of the Father....meaning His mission was completed. That's all.

I know...I was just making a point that He was standing during this event. This clearly upset Him and to think there are people in this world who thinks He doesn't care.

 

[blondeambition3]

You've done your homework well Cheymat.

 

[blondeambition3]

Absolutely incorrect. Mohamed is NOT a god and never claimed to be and his followers never claim that he is. Remember their mantra," There is no god but Allah and Mohamed is his prophet "

If you begin from a place of wrongful assumption, your path is all the more perilous. Remove the stones from your path.

And if you're going to play the Moon God card, then you should be aware of the meaning of "El Shaddai" You are aware of it correct? That is the name of the Hebrew god, which becomes the Christian God. In the earliest translations, El Shaddai literally means God of the mountain. It isn't until later translations that El Shaddai is given new meanings like God the destroyer or God almighty.


So if you're going to point at savage man and say," See their god is false!" Then you have to be willing to look at the same archeological evidence about your own. If you're not willing to that that, you are not being objective and are looking into history, the Bible, now, and the future with bias. Free yourself of it. Lay it at Gods feet. Then look again at your brothers and sisters Christian, Hebrew and Muslim

MrGrimme, In case you're not aware of it, all we true Christians pray for our brothers & sisters, Christian, Hebrew & Muslim. We haven't stopped praying & we won't stop praying ever. Why do you keep turning the 'truth' of God we speak into hate & division? Christ has also admonished us to be 'wise as serpents but harmless as Doves' so that's what we're being. We're not going to sit idly by while you sing the 'equality' song of all paths & religions lead to God when every good Christian who has a LIVING relationship with GOD knows that they know that they know that that's a lie from the very pit of Hell. Christ also instructed that we not cast our Pearls among Swine either, lest they trample them under foot & then turn & render us also. (Matthew 7:6) According to our understanding of the subject, every effort to apply the things of the Spirit of God to unregenerated men, is to give that which is holy to dogs. Is this what's happening here MrGrimme? Are you a Christian or an Islamic infiltrator in disguise? Have you come to tell us it's our Christian duty to 'forgive' and 'turn the other cheek' while radical Islam invades & destroys all that is not Islam & all the Infidels? It's our commissioned DUTY to spread the 'good news of the gospel of Christ', so we must be getting about our Father's work and it's Christians like you who hinder it. Why can't you just 'join' us and 'help' us save more souls for His Kingdom instead of debating endlessly in defense of Islam.. and the rest of the Religions you profess to embrace as much as the Christianity you espouse but don't seem to proclaim. Have you come to preach another gospel that the Lord warned us about? "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8, 9 The FIRST lie ever told was the one the Devil told Eve in the Garden that if she ate of the forbidden Tree that she too would become like a God and since then the Devil's worked overtime to create as many Gods as He could and we've again come full-circle & everyone once again has became Demigods & Gods unto themselves. You will win no arguments here if your cause is for anything other than Christ crucified MrGrimme, as none here will be swayed for all your faulty Historical sources & ancient language encumbrances. God will not be mocked and I'm speaking prophetically to you now... watch and see what the Lord God (Yahweh) does in these last days. By the way, (Yahweh) God 'is' the God of the Mountain(s), and the Sun and the Moon as He rightfully 'is' the God of all! He is the Alpha & the Omega ... the first & the last! No other God is like Him and no other God has come before Him nor will follow Him! God did NOT have anything to do with the writing of the Qua'ran... all you have to do is look at modern day Islam to 'see' that GOD is NOT in it! God created EVE from the 'rib' of Adam, not from his foot to be kicked about or walked on! She was to be his help-mate, not his property or subservient slave, as Muslim Women are. Please don't argue the plight of Muslim Women because I LIVED it! They are treated less than Animals & have absolutely no value at all in Islamic Society! Consider the 'Burka' Dear Sir & you can 'see' the TREE of ISLAM bears sour fruit for Women! God did not create Man to be a GOD over the Woman, but to Love her as Christ loved the Church and Christ loved the Church so much he 'gave' Himself (died) for it. This is even beyond Love.. this borders on worship. TRUE GODLY Men & Women follow no Man, Prophet or otherwise, religious doctrine or affiliation... We follow GOD & God only THROUGH the person of Christ, which you apparently can't receive because you have not the spiritual 'vision' neccessary to see or receive. Here is a 'word' from the Lord, as a Woman is with Child, as was Christ in God.. they are one and the same and the Holy Spirit is also one with Christ as with the Father. Christ was a stumbling block to the Jews & He's also a stumbling block with Islam because they will not repent of their Sins, receive Jesus Christ as their Crucified savior who died on the Cross for their Sins so that through Him they can inherit eternal Life nor do they believe God raised Him from the dead.. this is what GOD said is required in order to be saved. Fundamentalist Islam is no more representative of God anymore than the KKK is representative of Christ!I'm so tired of trying to 'correct' you with God's word and I believe everyone on this thread is tiring of it... and not because we dislike 'you' personally, we just 'know' Islam is not of God.. because if it is, Our GOD of the Bible is a Liar and Christ died on that Cross in vain & we're all dead in our Sins... and you also if you're truly a Christian! Embrace Christianity or embrace Islam, but you can not embrace both.. God, not I declares this! All I will do from hereon in is pray God lifts the 'veil' & opens your eyes so that you may see the 'truth' & truly receive Christ as your savior, and go forth to be 'light & salt' in a dark & season less World. Put away the foolishness of defending that which has no part in God and allow Him to use you to usher 'souls' into His eternal Kingdom. I, for one, will not now nor will I ever be, swayed by your propaganda, so either 'join' us or 'depart' from us as God also admonishes us not to have fellowship with Darkness as we are light. Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? ... 2 Corinthians 6:14

 

[Vidi]

I'm so tired of trying to 'correct' you with God's word and I believe everyone on this thread is tiring of it

yes and Ive received the private messages from some who have expressed it as well. I posted my beliefs in another thread where it was also questioned if I am a christian, so maybe that will explain it.

What I will say here is this:

Thank you all for letting me post here. I was happy to see a Christian group on these forums and was even happier when I received an invite to the group. But, I see I cannot stay without causing anger for several people here. That was not my intention. And to explain would only insult and anger them further.

May the Lord Bless you,

David

 

[blondeambition3]

May the Lord bless you also David! No one has asked you to go, but if you go, Go in Peace. If you decide to stay, then we welcome you with open arms in peace. Here's my prayer for you; "May (Yahweh) God cause His face to shine upon you, and may you desire to know Him to such a degree that His Love pushes away everything that is not of Him or from Him. May you fully 'know' the Love of God that is in Christ Jesus and may you go forth as a light into the darkness to proclaim His message that Christ has come into the World and that all the World through Him might be saved! May you know the truth & the truth shall set you free! God is not a religion and He wants you to experience "Him" and Him alone. In Jesus' name I pray this Amen.

 

[LisaLisa]

Here is my take on it. I"ve thought about it alot, I mean people of other faiths like jews, muslims, and others. I'm still somewhat conflicted, but I think we all do try to serve the same God the father, the almighty creator of heaven and earth, but we have different names for Him. Some use His proper name, some use just God and others use different names, but we are all referring to the same creator, because there is only one creator.

The difference lies in Jesus. Christians believe that Jesus was the messiah, and other religions don't, some are still waiting for the messiah. But, we are all human beings, all made in God's image, and it's a thin line to walk without stepping on some toes. No matter what you say, or what you believe, it's going to offend somebody out there, unless you believe nothing at all, and even that will offend somebody.....I"m not even kidding! LOL!

So, sometimes it's a no win situation when it comes to humans. I feel for muslims, jews, and others because they are all part of the human family, same as us. Unfortunately, they have not accepted Jesus yet, but many will. And there will be many christians that say Lord, Lord didn't we do this in your name and that in your name, and He say "get away from me, I never knew you". So in the end, it's really up to Jesus to judge their heats, and ours too, as He is the one who is worthy to sit on the throne, not any of us.

I try to keep that in my mind, and try to remain humble, because it's only through grace that any of us even have a chance at everlasting life. Grace alone saves, not because we are good or anything like that. Compared to Jesus, even the best of us are still unworthy.

That's my 2 cents on this touchy subject

 

[Saintscruiser]

There were 3 main reasons that the Jews didn't/don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah prophets wrote of in the Old Testament.

1) Anything that touched their lips could not have blood in it. You've heard the term kosher? Well, that is what kosher means. That's why the rabbi's have to inspect food when processed. During the Last Supper, Jesus said, "This is My blood. Drink this in remembrance of Me." So this was the first problem.

2) They were expecting a Warrior Messiah, which will appear at the 2nd Coming. The Jews were disappointed to see a humble carpenter's son named Jesus. They wanted a general to wipe away all the Romans.

3) God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, so why would God sacrifice His Son? This made no sense.

We must make sure that we remember that if the Jews had not rejected Jesus, would we have been graphed into the vine? I would want to think so. I'm an optimist! But, in all honesty, I really don't know. All I know is that I'm so thankful to Jesus for dying for my sins and that I'm saved. Thank, You, Lord.

 

[blondeambition3]

Here is my take on it. I"ve thought about it alot, I mean people of other faiths like jews, muslims, and others. I'm still somewhat conflicted, but I think we all do try to serve the same God the father, the almighty creator of heaven and earth, but we have different names for Him. Some use His proper name, some use just God and others use different names, but we are all referring to the same creator, because there is only one creator.

The difference lies in Jesus. Christians believe that Jesus was the messiah, and other religions don't, some are still waiting for the messiah. But, we are all human beings, all made in God's image, and it's a thin line to walk without stepping on some toes. No matter what you say, or what you believe, it's going to offend somebody out there, unless you believe nothing at all, and even that will offend somebody.....I"m not even kidding! LOL!

So, sometimes it's a no win situation when it comes to humans. I feel for muslims, jews, and others because they are all part of the human family, same as us. Unfortunately, they have not accepted Jesus yet, but many will. And there will be many christians that say Lord, Lord didn't we do this in your name and that in your name, and He say "get away from me, I never knew you". So in the end, it's really up to Jesus to judge their heats, and ours too, as He is the one who is worthy to sit on the throne, not any of us.

I try to keep that in my mind, and try to remain humble, because it's only through grace that any of us even have a chance at everlasting life. Grace alone saves, not because we are good or anything like that. Compared to Jesus, even the best of us are still unworthy.

That's my 2 cents on this touchy subject

I echo your truths on this subject LisaLisa!

 

[blondeambition3]

There were 3 main reasons that the Jews didn't/don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah prophets wrote of in the Old Testament.

1) Anything that touched their lips could not have blood in it. You've heard the term kosher? Well, that is what kosher means. That's why the rabbi's have to inspect food when processed. During the Last Supper, Jesus said, "This is My blood. Drink this in remembrance of Me." So this was the first problem.

2) They were expecting a Warrior Messiah, which will appear at the 2nd Coming. The Jews were disappointed to see a humble carpenter's son named Jesus. They wanted a general to wipe away all the Romans.

3) God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, so why would God sacrifice His Son? This made no sense.

We must make sure that we remember that if the Jews had not rejected Jesus, would we have been graphed into the vine? I would want to think so. I'm an optimist! But, in all honesty, I really don't know. All I know is that I'm so thankful to Jesus for dying for my sins and that I'm saved. Thank, You, Lord.

Excellent post Saintscruiser & I am with you.... so thankful for the sacrifice of Christ and that 'all who call upon the name of Jesus will be saved!'

 

[Saintscruiser]

Amen, Blonde! Glory to God! Lord heal all who hurt tonight. I know how it feels to hurt in my heart and my spirit. Comfort those, Lord with Your loving arms. In Your Name Lord, Amen.

 

[blondeambition3]

Amen, Blonde! Glory to God! Lord heal all who hurt tonight. I know how it feels to hurt in my heart and my spirit. Comfort those, Lord with Your loving arms. In Your Name Lord, Amen.

Glory to God Amen Saintscruiser! "Lord we pray in agreement that you touch & heal all of the hurting Hearts & spirits tonight! Touch them with your presence precious Lord so that they might know YOU and the peace that passes all understanding and Amen! They might also find comfort in you.. In your Name Lord we pray and we 'know' that it will be done! We Thank-you Jesus for the glorious works you are performing right now! Amen!"

 

[blondeambition3]

"Father God, let us also pray in agreement that if we 'error' in anything it is this; That we believe in YOU and YOUR Word (The Bible) as it stands written, as it is a living & breathing testament of your character and it's Laws we have written upon our Hearts so that we might not sin against YOU. Your Word is a lamp unto our Feet, a light unto our paths & Bread for our bellies. To YOU Father God be all the honor the praise & the Glory forever & ever.. In Christ's precious Name we pray... and by Faith we receive the promises as also written as you are Honest, faithful and true and your mercies endure forever" - Amen.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Amen and Amen.

I recorded Exodus last night and watched it in full this afternoon. It's amazing to me that Jews and Arabs were peacefully living together, ruled by the British, but when it was voted on that Israel would become a nation, the Arabs turned immediately on the Jews. They wouldn't have any part of sharing. At the end of the movie, Paul Newman says that he hopes the land will once again be peaceful between Arab and Jew and I just shook my head. That was 5 months before May 15, 1948 when it was voted on at the United Nations. Look at the millions of Arabs that surround Israel versus the people of Israel. It doesn't make any sense, unless you're a Christian. Nothing makes sense today unless you are a Christian. How can we wake up everyone??????

 

[LisaLisa]

Great posts Blonde and Saints!!!!! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[blondeambition3]

Amen and Amen.

I recorded Exodus last night and watched it in full this afternoon. It's amazing to me that Jews and Arabs were peacefully living together, ruled by the British, but when it was voted on that Israel would become a nation, the Arabs turned immediately on the Jews. They wouldn't have any part of sharing. At the end of the movie, Paul Newman says that he hopes the land will once again be peaceful between Arab and Jew and I just shook my head. That was 5 months before May 15, 1948 when it was voted on at the United Nations. Look at the millions of Arabs that surround Israel versus the people of Israel. It doesn't make any sense, unless you're a Christian. Nothing makes sense today unless you are a Christian. How can we wake up everyone??????

I 'feel' your frustration & your heartbreak Saintscruiser The 'politics' of the Israeli/Arab conflict is so complex, just suffice it to say that the 'half-brothers' of Abraham will never stop fighting over the Inheritance that God stated was rightfully Issaic's. The Book of Revelation tells us that, even while hundreds of thousands of Christians & other Religions alike tell us that Book should've been removed from the Bible years ago... (lol) I mean, let's look at the 'bigger' picture... Our job's are to 'wake up' everyone just as you posted above Saintscruiser, how then are we supposed to do that when Christian's themselves say the Bible is not God's unerring word but a book of inaccurately translated misinformation? How can anyone possibly 'know' the Character, Heart, mind & will of God without some form of written word? How would ANYONE come to Salvation without God's written word? What 'rules' would we live by & which ones would we know NOT to break? I've read precious LisaLisa's post about the hard questions people she's tried to witness to have posed to her about the God that appeared to be a 'meanie' to them and how these questions launched her into a deeper search to interpret those meanings, and when she discovered the truth from that brilliant search the answer was God is not a 'meanie' but a perfect Father who has always been 'just' and 'right' in all His dealings with His Children, wayward & otherwise. Why is the Bible the ONLY inaccurate word of God? Is it because it's the ONLY one that is truly correct? Could it be the Devil has done His job so well that Christ was correct when He said "For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter ... For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction" - Matthew 7:13 Note how Christ said the way is 'easy' that leads to destruction? I guess it takes the simple Faith of a Child to take God at His 'word' in simple Faith that all will be given the opportunity (borne out of 'free will') to choose the narrow path to accept Christ & find salvation, or to choose the many other hundreds of wide roads that lead to destruction... because let's face us, they are 'easier' roads... they make more 'sense' to the carnal minds of Men and require 'less' of us. So herein lies the burden of our great commissions to win souls for Christ and that is, plant the 'seeds' of the 'good news of the Gospel' of Christ and then PRAY that the Lord of the Harvest will finish the work we've begun. It does us no good to argue with People... People (even professing Christians) believe what they believe whether it's the truth or not because Christianity to most is a 'title' or a belief system not truly grounded in a 'living' holy-spirit grounded relationship with a Living Christ. It's something we can 'share' with People, but we can not 'give' it to them. So I guess we continue in our Love walks & pray without ceasing. We cling to the foot of Christ's garments like our very lives depend upon on it because they do. Pray for our Enemies, bless those who persecute us but continue steadfast in the spreading of the Gospel. We're not to compromise ever, but we must always 'speak the truth in Love' and this is not the easiest thing to do in a World that requires 'political correctness' and if you're not 'politically correct' then you're a hate monger. It's almost like we can't win nowadays, but my prayers are we just keep on keepin' on.. (lol) I thank God for the body of Christ that is unwavering in these last days, not affected by the 'winds of false doctrines' of many Men that will sway & deceive many. I pray that we will not be swayed precious Sisters and I 'know' that it is your most fervent prayers also.

 

[Saintscruiser]

One thing I have been doing for some years is buying some Christian tracts and including them in with my bill payments. I don't know if that would appeal to anyone else. You can leave them anywhere, like on a grocery shelf, public bathroom, or restaurant. I have specifically chosen several that I've combed through. These folks are way past reasonable in their prices....like a dozen for a dollar. There are those also that comfort. It's a hurting world out there. If you want the name of the folks, just pm me.

I have also set up some vhs tapes with sermons on them with a note to anyone who finds them, not to believe what they are being told about the disappearance of millions of people....to please view the tapes. I have sermon notes down in that cabinet as well. I pray that God sends some people that will view them.

I am disabled and don't get out much. I'm ambulatory, so that's a blessing. I've got to work within my sphere. Giving any extra monies to true Christian organizations to help others.......and like Blonde said in her post.....pray, pray, pray. The world needs true prayer warriors. I admit I haven't been top notch, of late, but I'm getting stronger. Death of loved ones take such a toll.....even though you know where they are....you just miss them and your heart is sad. My heart is sad every day, but my soul and spirit are at peace....and even joyful at times. Boy, I was flying high last night or could ya'll tell!!! It's like your heart and Jesus' heart has an extension cord to each other.

 

[LisaLisa]

I love you guys so much!!!!! I can't wait to meet up in heaven someday!

 

[blondeambition3]

I'm going to PM you Saintscruiser for the 'hook-up' on them tracks...

and LisaLisa.... I love you too Sister in Christ, and I can't wait to see you & Saintscruiser on the streets of Glory someday....

and I'll know you both... even as you know me... we won't require any introductions...