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roxynoodle

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Built the kayfun tonight and was worried about leaks so wasn't willing to test drive it with a precious SR :D

So I loaded it with some 12nic CLS. Its very yummy, and I like the vape. Does this hit hard like a dripper? I have it on my MVP, but feel the nic pretty strong. I've just recently gone down to 12nic in my aerotanks and 6nic in the Reo.

What should I try in the kayfun? 9? 6?

Also I needed to bring the air adjustment screw out some, but its hitting the outside edge of my 510 connector. Is that because the mvp also has ego threading? Would a different mod be better?

Are there any NT juices you wouldn't recommend in a kayfun?
 

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I don't know the MVP, but if the air screw comes out of the hole, you can probably remove it entirely - try and see if it's good for you.

When I got my KF, I was vaping 12mg in various aerotanks or protanks, and the KF ripped my throat. That's when I went down to 6 and I haven't looked back since (but I don't use my clearos anymore). The nic level is the same for me, whether I use the Reo or the KF.

I would try 6mg. If you find it's not enough after several days, then mix up to 9. But you may be surprised :)

As for NT juices, I find all the bakery juices do way better in the KF. Or, more exactly, they don't do that well in clearos. Fruits do well in both (at least Gravity, I haven't tried Betelgeuse, but I've read the same in some comments, and on the website).
 

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Yeah, it definitely needs 6nic! Woo!

Its a great vape though!

So you think the fruits are good in it, too? I have some 6nic Betelgeuse.

I was afraid to keep the air screw out completely because someone told me it would leak, but its not in a good place, and screwed in, its way too tight a draw.

I really like it so far though!
 

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So you think the fruits are good in it, too? I have some 6nic Betelgeuse.

I don't know, I'm not much of a fruit juice girl, so they're in my clearos for the occasional vape. They're about the only thing I can vape in the clearos now. So I haven't tried them in the KF - but I might now, as I just got a couple more KF nano clones.

I was afraid to keep the air screw out completely because someone told me it would leak, but its not in a good place, and screwed in, its way too tight a draw.

I really like it so far though!

I've read some people do remove the air screw. I never did, because I like a tight draw, so it's pretty far up the hole in mine. I'm an exception lol. But there's no o-ring there, and so far, if my KF leaks in the bottom, it's through the fill hole (which does have a rather crappy o-ring). The air hole only leaks when you overfill the chamber (if you overfill the tank, or draw too hard with the hole closed. But then it leaks through the side, not the bottom.
 

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My AFC screw is about half way but I too have read that it will work just fine with no AFC screw at all. I do not fill through the fill hole. Never have. I just use the top fill method. I won't try to describe it here but it is a lot less drama than fiddling with the fill hole and the O ring. At least for me, YMMV. I have not experienced any leaks unless I have something not screwed down snug. I found the instructions on youtube. Maybe my KF is just special or defective, cause I can follow the instructions and top fill or I can just sorta follow the instructions and top fill....either way, no leaks. KF 3.1 is a great alternative to the Reo. I run both most every day since I cannot afford another Reo yet!

As to nic, I find the Kafun is the same as the Reo. Both are basically drippers. I use 6mg in both. I use 12 in my tanks. Works for me. I can use 12 in both the Reo and the Kayfun, but I can't chain vape as I want to with my NT liquid gold.
 

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    Granted I'm not vast in the testing of hardware, the kayfun is the best tank I've ever had.
    There isn't a juice I don't enjoy in it.
    I threw all my clearos in the trash. They all caused more issues than the kayfun ever has. At home it will Vape three tanks between cotton (juice varies), and about a month or two on a coil.
    Using the stock drip tip I've come to appreciate the forceful stream of vapor it produces. Typically, it also produces a satisfying cloud.
    Two small problems, I do get some condensation that builds on the bottom of the tank near the 510 connector. You can say "leaking" but it's never a lot of juice. Like I said, condensation. The other issue was with the three piece connecting tank. I would get some seepage between the connections. I solved that with the plastic tank.
    Love it.
     

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    There are several issues going on here........

    1st) The air flow screw. When the AFS is flush with the bottom of the base, the unit is wide open. With that being said, the KF feeds the wick using vacuum. The further the screw is turned in the more vacuum is created to supply the wick. The KF can work well with the removal of the screw however, proper wicking is imperative. My preference is to keep the screw flush with the base,

    2nd) Leaking from the fill screw. The problem here is the tendency to over tighten the fill screw. What this does is, it over compresses the O ring which in turn causes the leak. The screw only needs to be tightened enough to moderately compress the O ring and thus creating a seal. The compression of the O ring will limit the screw from backing out much like a compression lock washer would do.

    3rd) The coil gunkers. Any juice will work in the KF however, the coil gunkers require more frequent maintenance. The use of lower ohm coils will reduce the amount of down time to an extent but, coil gunkers are coil gunkers and the nature of the beast simply requires more maintenance.

    4th) Nic levels. The KFs can be as smooth of a vape out there at any nic level however, this takes us right back to proper wicking and the wicking material being used. Improper adsorption and burnt wicking will always lead to a harsher pull. With that being said, for me, I prefer to run with the 12mg juices in my KF's and 6mg's in most every thing else. Once again, Proper wicking and airflow can reduce throat hit and limit the dry hits. The moment you detect a dry hit, most often. a finger placed over the intake(creating a seal) while taking a short pull, will draw more liquid to the coil and wick and thus reducing the harsh flavors.

    5th) The filling issue. Yes the top feed system works, however when doing so, any slippage of the finger away from the intake is a case for getting juice all over your table or lap. With the feed screw method your have better control over filling the unit. the key here is to stay slow and steady while tilting the unit to one side and only filling until there is a half moon air pocket showing in the sight glass. If using with the metal tank, it all comes down to experience and feel.

    In conclusion, When the KF is properly built and maintained, it is more than capable of producing excellent flavor and very good vapor production.

    If you prefer a wide open draw or are in to chasing clouds, a dripper would be the way to go.

    As always, your results may very and I hope this helps.....:vapor:
     
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    Granted I'm not vast in the testing of hardware, the kayfun is the best tank I've ever had.
    There isn't a juice I don't enjoy in it.
    I threw all my clearos in the trash. They all caused more issues than the kayfun ever has. At home it will Vape three tanks between cotton (juice varies), and about a month or two on a coil.
    Using the stock drip tip I've come to appreciate the forceful stream of vapor it produces. Typically, it also produces a satisfying cloud.
    Two small problems, I do get some condensation that builds on the bottom of the tank near the 510 connector. You can say "leaking" but it's never a lot of juice. Like I said, condensation. The other issue was with the three piece connecting tank. I would get some seepage between the connections. I solved that with the plastic tank.
    Love it.

    Instead of throwing stuff away, even if you hate it, think about sending it to the CASAA gift thing or to the NT PIF box...it is kept for folks who are in a rough spot for whatever reason and need some vapegear or juice to stay off the stinkies. What you hate might be a life saver for someone else.

    So far, I have found folks to PIF on my own, but I believe there will be an inventory reduction around here in the not-so-distant future. I have too much stuffs that I just don't use. I need to follow my own advice and get a box out to the PIF manager!
     

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    There are several issues going on here........
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    5th) The filling issue. Yes the top feed system works, however when doing so, any slippage of the finger away from the intake is a case for getting juice all over your table or lap. With the feed screw method your have better control over filling the unit. the key here is to stay slow and steady while tilting the unit to one side and only filling until there is a half moon air pocket showing in the sight glass. If using with the metal tank, it all comes down to experience and feel.

    In conclusion, When the KF is properly built and maintained, it is more than capable of producing excellent flavor and very good vapor production.

    If you prefer a wide open draw or are in to chasing clouds, a dripper would be the way to go.

    As always, your results may very and I hope this helps.....:vapor:

    See, I really think my KF is defective but in a good way! I can top fill with or without covering the air intake. No leaking either way. I am almost afraid to buy another one (another clone that is) since I have so little trouble with this one. My first build on it was perfect. I could not believe my luck since I am not that experienced with this coiling/wicking stuff yet. Yep, mine is defective and I love its defects!
     

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    I do really like the flavor but I'm going to have to drop the nic. Even my lips were tingling last night, lol! No leaks or dry hits so far.

    I only have rayon for wicks.

    Not sure if this is authentic or a clone (was sold to a friend as authentic but most think its a clone), but with the air screw in all the way, its a very tight draw.
     

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    Instead of throwing stuff away, even if you hate it, think about sending it to the CASAA gift thing or to the NT PIF box...it is kept for folks who are in a rough spot for whatever reason and need some vapegear or juice to stay off the stinkies. What you hate might be a life saver for someone else.

    So far, I have found folks to PIF on my own, but I believe there will be an inventory reduction around here in the not-so-distant future. I have too much stuffs that I just don't use. I need to follow my own advice and get a box out to the PIF manager!

    I have a hard time of giving someone hardware that doesn't work. That's why they went in the trash.
    I do have quite a bit of juice I'd like to give away.


    See, I really think my KF is defective but in a good way! I can top fill with or without covering the air intake. No leaking either way. I am almost afraid to buy another one (another clone that is) since I have so little trouble with this one. My first build on it was perfect. I could not believe my luck since I am not that experienced with this coiling/wicking stuff yet. Yep, mine is defective and I love its defects!

    I feel the same way! As much as I love the Vape of my kayfun, it does have a huge machining blemish on the side of the deck. I would love to get a new one. Like the KFL+ I got my bf for his birthday. It's so shiny and nicely polished. But his Vapes differently than mine, and the air screw is a little more complication than I'd like, but I've heard not all regular KFLs had good sized non adjustable air holes. So, I'm kinda hesitant to get another one.
     

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    Yeah, it definitely needs 6nic! Woo!

    Its a great vape though!

    So you think the fruits are good in it, too? I have some 6nic Betelgeuse.

    I was afraid to keep the air screw out completely because someone told me it would leak, but its not in a good place, and screwed in, its way too tight a draw.

    I really like it so far though!

    Most Kayfun users take the air screw out. Screw it into your mod upside down and with it sitting flush, I have never had it leak there.
     

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    Instead of throwing stuff away, even if you hate it, think about sending it to the CASAA gift thing or to the NT PIF box...it is kept for folks who are in a rough spot for whatever reason and need some vapegear or juice to stay off the stinkies. What you hate might be a life saver for someone else.

    So far, I have found folks to PIF on my own, but I believe there will be an inventory reduction around here in the not-so-distant future. I have too much stuffs that I just don't use. I need to follow my own advice and get a box out to the PIF manager!
    can you point me in the direction of the NT PIF box? I'm straight up never using a tank again - and rather than deal with the hassle of selling it I'd like to just get rid of them plain and simple. That sounds like a good way to do it. I may still see if any of my friends can latch onto them in place of cigs - if not I'll send them to that box :)
     

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    can you point me in the direction of the NT PIF box? I'm straight up never using a tank again - and rather than deal with the hassle of selling it I'd like to just get rid of them plain and simple. That sounds like a good way to do it. I may still see if any of my friends can latch onto them in place of cigs - if not I'll send them to that box :)

    Me too. I have many kangers that I don't know what to do with. I would love to give them away but I don't know anyone and I really don't want to go through the hassle. If we have a PIF box for NT family, I'm all for filling it up !!!
     
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