NZ E-Cigarette Industry Hits a New Milestone

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NZ E-Cigarette Industry Hits a New Milestone via scoop.co.nz
For the few that might not be aware: NZ is New Zealand.

This NZ first marks a huge milestone in the industry’s progress. Historically the advertising of electronic cigarettes by way of radio, TV and print has been very difficult for NZ providers, and in many cases completely disallowed.

The latest focus on advertising by the vaping community shows the market is moving forward, regardless of many obstacles and is ready to take the next step towards becoming a mainstream product.

I'm not well versed on NZ advertising regulations.
Maybe some of our friends from there can chime in on whether this is a good thing or not.
 

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Yeah I saw an ad for Cosmic corner (e-cig retailer) on the back of a bus on my commute today. Bit of a surprise really but can only be a good thing?

But I think we will have a similar scenario here as to what you guys have in the US, there is MEGA tax dollars on cigarettes here (~NZD23/pack). That's about USD17. And money is tight for our government after our rich PM looked after his rich mates...

Nicotine containing juice is banned for sale here in NZ for those who didn't know, there is a concession for personal import though. Not that that's cheap
 

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Not to call them luddites per-se as vaping is part technology, but there has to be a way for them to legally reach the non-technological demographic.

It will be interesting to see if there is a reaction from the ANTZ(in NZ) to this.

From the article it looks like they faced a lot of self-regulation within the advertisement community. What isn't mentioned was the how. Not mentioned for obvious reasons as from all appearances with prior attempts people would then try to block it.

They either lucked out and found a media outlet willing to give them a chance or they found a loophole.
Possibly Australia could try to do the same?

Yeah I saw an ad for Cosmic corner (e-cig retailer) on the back of a bus on my commute today. Bit of a surprise really but can only be a good thing?

In the U.S. depending upon where you are public transit advertisements face normal advertising regulation at the federal and state level and some systems, usually the larger ones, have their own self-regulating criteria for acceptable advertising.

It isn't uncommon to have someone put up provocative advertising stating the first amendment (Free Speech.) and then hear that it was removed due to complaints. Usually Pro/Anti-Israel and PETA ads end up in the news, as an example.

In theory I could see SFATA and CASAA getting ads approved under free speech in some transit systems as they generally aren't advertising a product, just a cause. On the other hand businesses would get slapped with the self-regulation or categorized under tobacco advertising; where it'd probably take litigation to bypass that. - Whether or not that litigation would be feasible is another matter all together. IANAL.
 

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It isn't uncommon to have someone put up provocative advertising stating the first amendment (Free Speech.) and then hear that it was removed due to complaints.

People don't like to be reminded that other people have (exactly the same) rights too.

If I were a deep pocketed billionaire, I would be running as "ads" just fragments from the Constitution. No products, no other ideas. Just plain, straight quotes from the Constitution. Then watch the complaints for kicks.
 
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People don't like to be reminded that other people have (exactly the same) rights too.

I agree.

If I were a deep pocketed billionaire, I would be running as "ads" just fragments from the Constitution. No products, no other ideas. Just plain, straight quotes from the Constitution. Then watch the complaints for kicks.

Ha! Context and that thought. :lol:

What is sadder about it is that more people would actually be prompted to cite the Constitution having learned a fragment of it on a bus/train platform.
 

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I would call it the "Constitution Awareness Campaign" or something like that.

A few amendments are guaranteed to make some people go bonkers. Like the 2nd. But in general, anything that goes against known prejudices is guaranteed to produce copious feedback.

The funniest thing that could happen would be to have some government body trying to shut it down.
 
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If I were a deep pocketed billionaire, I would be running as "ads" just fragments from the Constitution. No products, no other ideas. Just plain, straight quotes from the Constitution. Then watch the complaints for kicks.
That's a brilliant idea. If it floats around long enough somebody will do it. There is something I learned to do that seems to shock people on the rare occaisions I've given a demonstration, recite the Star Spangled Banner as poetry. It takes some practice but makes a strong statement. The words are thrilling when they aren't masked by the music. After 911 I was debating Islamists in voice chat. To express how I felt I recited the Gettysburg address (which isn't easy) to the 50 or so people in the chat room. THAT was powerful.
 
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