o-ring stuck from manufacturing in griffin base.

[aalmosawi]

this is the second replacement geekvape product i got and its the griffin.

the first one i had had a leaning pole. the positive was leaning towards the center.

so i told the guy to replace it for me. and he did.

this new replacement is godo with the poles all standing straight.

howerver. a very odd issue indeed ... i found what looks like a small oring sticking out of the air vent holes at the bottom. its cramped in-between the base.

i managed to yank it on it then cut it. its now hanging by a small piece. its still stuck in-between the base as the base is "pressure pressed?"

i stuck my screw driver in the air holes and it goes all the way through. no obstruction to the air hole from where the coil sits.

please see attached pics.

i am using the thing and it seems ok but i am really not sure if its causing compression or lack of air pass through.

as i show in one of the pics the screwdriver does go through and its not obstructed.

is there a way to take this thing apart to get rid of the remaining oring thats in there?

 

[crxess]

Each post you make worries me more and more. It seems no matter how many problems you have or how much instruction you are given, you do not learn.

1) Your First tank was likely only in need of an adjustment to assembly. Instead, you delayed with shipping and now have a second, which is also in need of corrective maintenance. This Time more entailed.
2) you do not wait for solutions and even when you do, often you ignore the advice given.

Stop guessing at things and making them worse.
Base will need at minimum, partial disassembly.
Unscrew the Center pin. This will release the positive post.
Set both aside.
Carefully pry off the upper center grommet(center insulator) and place aside.
Using some type of Grip Gloves, attempt to unthread the upper to lower section of the Base.
Remove the remaining piece of o-ring and inspect to see if it was needed in there or just caught up in assembly(extra part)
Correct as needed and reassemble.

 

[aalmosawi]

Each post you make worries me more and more. It seems no matter how many problems you have or how much instruction you are given, you do not learn.

1) Your First tank was likely only in need of an adjustment to assembly. Instead, you delayed with shipping and now have a second, which is also in need of corrective maintenance. This Time more entailed.
2) you do not wait for solutions and even when you do, often you ignore the advice given.

Stop guessing at things and making them worse.
Base will need at minimum, partial disassembly.
Unscrew the Center pin. This will release the positive post.
Set both aside.
Carefully pry off the upper center grommet(center isolater) and place aside.
Using some type of Grip Gloves, attempt to unthread the upper to lower section of the Base.
Remove the remaining piece of o-ring and inspect to see if it was needed in there or just caught up in assembly(extra part)
Correct as needed and reassemble.

i am not sure why posts worry you.
what is there that i am not learning? vaping hardware is different. we learn something new everyday. its a discussion forum.

anyways. i am in baghdad/iq. the supplier brings things in at minimum 10 or so pieces at a time.
the first unit i got had a kneeling pole.
he swapped it for me
this is the new one i got today. it had this o'ring kinda leaking out.
as i stated it has not obstructed the afc holes as i was able to put a tiny screwdriver in and see it fine.

nevertheless, i'd like to get it out if i can but its a difficult process then i'd like to not take the risk.

in the meantime, i'll follow the steps you mentioned and hopefully i can succeed.

 

[crxess]

i am not sure why posts worry you.
what is there that i am not learning? vaping hardware is different. we learn something new everyday. its a discussion forum.

anyways. i am in baghdad/iq. the supplier brings things in at minimum 10 or so pieces at a time.
the first unit i got had a kneeling pole.
he swapped it for me
this is the new one i got today. it had this o'ring kinda leaking out.
as i stated it has not obstructed the afc holes as i was able to put a tiny screwdriver in and see it fine.

nevertheless, i'd like to get it out if i can but its a difficult process then i'd like to not take the risk.

in the meantime, i'll follow the steps you mentioned and hopefully i can succeed.

Well, I will offer you one piece of Good advice on New Tanks.
It is highly recommended to Fully Disassemble, Clean and inspect all parts and carefully assemble to confirm proper fit and ultimately safe function.

This practice eliminates head aches such as you now have as well as protecting you from inhaling foreign substances not healthy.(Machine oils/etc.)

Perhaps my concern is because I feel you are moving to fast for your experience level.
I speak because I care...............Sorry if it comes off differently.

 

[aalmosawi]

Well, I will offer you one piece of Good advice on New Tanks.
It is highly recommended to Fully Disassemble, Clean and inspect all parts and carefully assemble to confirm proper fit and ultimately safe function.

This practice eliminates head aches such as you now have as well as protecting you from inhaling foreign substances not healthy.(Machine oils/etc.)

Perhaps my concern is because I feel you are moving to fast for your experience level.
I speak because I care...............Sorry if it comes off differently.

theres a bit of tension in your writing but i do get the experience level fact. i sense the last part as well and know your intentions of being helpful.

you have to understand our frustration (the few of us that vape in baghdad) and how the ones of us who want the best have to suffer and wait a month or two and pay a premium to get these parts.

the guy who brings in the griffin for example charges $50 dollars for the unit itself + another $10 dollars for the top air flow accessory.

so its frustrating for one paying an extra fee but we can calculate that into shipping ...
then you get a unit and its got a kneeling pole. you say fine. it works but you are still irritated by it.

you switch it out after many fights on the phone and battles. then you discover what i discovered.
frustration is a dime a dozen here.

in the meantime, i am wanting to follow your steps however i am still not confident on how to disassemble it as i am stuck in the part of (upper center grommet(center isolater) and place aside.) i am not sure the reference.

nevertheless, i'll still try ...

 

[crxess]

in the meantime, i am wanting to follow your steps however i am still not confident on how to disassemble it as i am stuck in the part of (upper center grommet(center isolater) and place aside.) i am not sure the reference.

The plastic looking piece under the Positive Pole.

While cleaning, I also insert an acceptable punch(screwdriver/etc.) from the top and tap out the lower center grommet. Tap back into place once cleaned.

It is possible that o-ring seals the two base sections to prevent leakage. May have slipped out of place during assembly.

 

[aalmosawi]

The plastic looking piece under the Positive Pole.

are you referring to the insulator part?

It is possible that o-ring seals the two base sections to prevent leakage. May have slipped out of place during assembly.

its not leaking though

howerver when i built a vertical build and did my wrapping the first pull was extremely tight as if something was blocking it.
i then converted it to a regular horizontal build and it was somewhat ok.
as i said i dont see the plastic oring obstructing the airway path as the screwdriver was passing through and is see-able through the whole when poked.

i am trying to ask whether perhaps if i leave it alone ... since i am having trouble taking it apart.

 

[crxess]

are you referring to the insulator part?

its not leaking though

howerver when i built a vertical build and did my wrapping the first pull was extremely tight as if something was blocking it.
i then converted it to a regular horizontal build and it was somewhat ok.
as i said i dont see the plastic oring obstructing the airway path as the screwdriver was passing through and is see-able through the whole when poked.

i am trying to ask whether perhaps if i leave it alone ... since i am having trouble taking it apart.

Likely the need to cut it and still being unable to remove all of it - The center Pin has it pinched into the center channel.
It may not hinder function to leave it alone, but it certainly will not help.

 

[aalmosawi]

ok so i took it apart.
removed the center pin screw.
and here i am staring at the base trying to figure out whta to go with next.

i found this post on fasttech. where this guy had posted two pics: first pic and second pic.

now for me i am only assuming that the upper part has to be removed from the botton part.

can i just FLAT LONG NOSE PLIERS to grab the upper part from the vent hole area and either yank or screw it off?

wont that work? (in green and red arrows in my pic)




furthermore, i believe that the tiny circular piece in this picture is what i had yanked on and that probably by my thinking is what was sticking out.
this picture
however, whats in the pc is white. and the piece i yanked on was exactly like the one from the spares they give you. an o-ring. so maybe not.

 

[crxess]

You might try fishing the remaining piece of o-ring out with the Center pin removed. It may now be free.
Looks like it was a Spare o-ring that got trapped in there.

If you need to separate, Pliers and a wiggling/rocking motion should separate the halves.

 

[b.m.]

I could be wrong,but that o-ring looks to be the one that sits behind the air flow ring,and keeps tension on it,so it doesn't freely spin back and forth.
As for separating the base parts,be very careful if you do.They are press fit together,and you have to press it back in.I took one of mine apart,i removed the 510 pin,then used a punch to tap the base sections apart,when i put it back together,i tapped the top section back into the bottom section,but while doing so,it caused the 510 threaded part to smash down a bit,sort of mushrooming the bottom of the post,and making it very difficult to thread onto a mod.

 

[aalmosawi]

I could be wrong,but that o-ring looks to be the one that sits behind the air flow ring,and keeps tension on it,so it doesn't freely spin back and forth.
As for separating the base parts,be very careful if you do.They are press fit together,and you have to press it back in.I took one of mine apart,i removed the 510 pin,then used a punch to tap the base sections apart,when i put it back together,i tapped the top section back into the bottom section,but while doing so,it caused the 510 threaded part to smash down a bit,sort of mushrooming the bottom of the post,and making it very difficult to thread onto a mod.

i am gonna put a build on it and try it out. if it leaks then i know theres an issue.
if it becomes "choky" and gives a tight draw... then i know its the fault.

luckily i have an exact other one so i'll compare the two.

You might try fishing the remaining piece of o-ring out with the Center pin removed. It may now be free.
Looks like it was a Spare o-ring that got trapped in there.

If you need to separate, Pliers and a wiggling/rocking motion should separate the halves.

not possible to fish out. the o'ring was sticking out through the air vent holes circle thing at the bottom (the spinning wheel) it is - was still jammed in there. when i cut it i removed all traces of it and its still jammed in there.

as far as taking it apart by wiggling. i'll give it a shot after giving it a go for vaping and see if it causes any issues.

come to think about it. if its press fitted and its only a o'ring then it surely must be so mushed in there it wouldnt cause any issues.

 

[b.m.]

i am gonna put a build on it and try it out. if it leaks then i know theres an issue.
if it becomes "choky" and gives a tight draw... then i know its the fault.

luckily i have an exact other one so i'll compare the two.

not possible to fish out. the o'ring was sticking out through the air vent holes circle thing at the bottom (the spinning wheel) it is - was still jammed in there. when i cut it i removed all traces of it and its still jammed in there.

as far as taking it apart by wiggling. i'll give it a shot after giving it a go for vaping and see if it causes any issues.

come to think about it. if its press fitted and its only a o'ring then it surely must be so mushed in there it wouldnt cause any issues.

You may be able to wiggle the base apart,i didn't try that way,if it works,that would be easier than the way i did haha.After putting a build in it,if it doesn't leak,then i would bet it's the one for air flow ring.To get that ring off,you have to completely disassemble the base.That was why i took mine apart,my ring was very loose,so i wanted to try and put just a bit bigger o-ring in there to try and tighten it back up.

 

[aalmosawi]

then i would bet it's the one for air flow ring.

hmm. i dont wanna go too far with my thoughts but when i did a vertical build on it yesterday and came to vape it was like sooo difficult.
then i converted it to a horizontal normal build.
i was able to vape but i had a feelign it was not giving enough ..."air"

but as i mentioned in my previous posts. if i stick a tiny screwdriver in the hole from where the deck goes it goes through fine and nothing obstructs it ...

see image. also notice where the ring was coming out from? ya. its jammed in there.

it was a full o'ring (small size) when i first spotted it. i was so shocked!

 

[Bakseated1]

I was able to pry apart the base by putting a knife into the grooves above and below the air control ring and slowly wiggle back and forth. Praying the whole time it didn't slip and cut my finger off. By doing so assuming you have the centerpin out you will end up with four pieces in your hand. 3 black and one silver. Once apart you will have to figure out if that was an extra oring or one that was to be in use and slipped out of place during assembly and needs to go back in place.

Now the hard part. Press fitting it all back together. I tried multiple ways and was only successful with two pairs of pliers one on each side. Left some scuff marks but it's the only way I could get it all back tight enough.


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