Odin - Random dry/hot vape?!

[rc10mike]

Odd issue going on here.

Every so often, Ill get a throat splitting dry hot hit with my Odin. I squonk A LOT because I came from a Chalice where you cant really flood it.

Build:
Dual 1/16" coils, 1 ohm each, 28awg, KGD cotton, air holes all the way open. LP Grand, Bobas Bounty

I tested the coils for hot legs and didnt have any.

The part I find strange, is a dry hit with cotton usually means re-wick.....not the case this time because the wick looks fine.

It also seems to happen completely random, it could be directly after a good squonk or after a few vapes. Also, there are no warning signs, one vape is great the next is hot and dry with no warning...

 

[BigB_117]

Just some random thoughts here that might help.

Is your wick blocking the squonk holes at all?

Are you sure you're squonking long enough? That Bobas is thick stuff and needs a long slow squonk for sure.

Another thought, maybe slightly less cotton in the coils will help it wick that thick juice faster?

 

[2buildawall]

Did you watch SuperX's vid on setting up dual coils on the Odin using the REO? That really helped me. I had my coils to high and lowered them down and had no dry hits. Also at one time I did not have an airtight seal on my juice bottle and not enough juice was filling the well. I had dry hits. I am still new at this but just a few ideas. You probably know this but the Odin is a juiceaholic. Good luck!

 

[Bigflyrodder]

I vape Boba's in mine most of the day, I do find you have to really squank hard and long (...insert "that's what she said" joke here). My guess is the juice feed holes are tight on this topper.

Stopping not before this post gets away from me...lol

 

[rc10mike]

I did watch SuperX's vids when I first got the Odin. I used all of his tips and tricks except the coil jig, I built my own.

Also, Ive made it a habit after every bottle refill, to verify that juice actually flows up the tube when I squonk, I did have bottle o-ring issues in the past.

 

[rc10mike]

I vape Boba's in mine most of the day, I do find you have to really squank hard and long (...insert "that's what she said" joke here). My guess is the juice feed holes are tight on this topper.

Stopping not before this post gets away from me...lol

Is it a known issue that the feed holes are small on these RBAs? I did notice after switching from the Chalice that the Odins juice feed was kind of "slower" and needed more push..

 

[BockinBboy]

Might make sure your tube hadn't suctioned to the bottom of the bottle - this can happen intermittently among a few squonks depending on position. When that occurs at the end of a squonk, your juice won't drain well for that one, then the next squonk you won't get much of any juice up into the deck of the atty. Then, it might let loose and be alright for a squonk or two. It can be a cycle if the conditions are right.

- Bboy

 

[gousooners18]

Sounds like not a dry hit but maybe a harsh almost over nicotined hit? I seem to get that every once in a while and I don't know why. Its not a dry wick since it tends to happen when my juice well is full (not using a reo... yet)

 

[rc10mike]

Might make sure your tube hadn't suctioned to the bottom of the bottle - this can happen intermittently among a few squonks depending on position. When that occurs at the end of a squonk, your juice won't drain well for that one, then the next squonk you won't get much of any juice up into the deck of the atty. Then, it might let loose and be alright for a squonk or two. It can be a cycle if the conditions are right.

- Bboy

Hmm...I checked it out and the tube is pretty close to the bottom of the bottle, it also looks like the center of the bottom of the bottle is slightly higher than the outer edges...

Im going to trim it and see if that helps.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[BockinBboy]

Cut a small inverted 'V' into the bottom of the tube to prevent suctioning.

- Bboy

 

[rc10mike]

Sounds like not a dry hit but maybe a harsh almost over nicotined hit? I seem to get that every once in a while and I don't know why. Its not a dry wick since it tends to happen when my juice well is full (not using a reo... yet)

Im not sure this would be the case here. Its definitely a dry hit, the kind where you want to close your eyes, yell, and exhale but you cant because the pain has already taken you by surprise.

 

[Rmcgloth]

Could be one coil hitting before the other. Even though they are pretty close in dry fire, a difference in wicking can make one lag. In my experience, a slight difference in wicking can skew the balance and alter the flavor.

 

[K31Scout]

You could try thinning the Bobas with some distilled water, say 5% to start. You'll need a 1ml syringe to measure that accurately. I DIY my own juice and make most recipes with distilled water instead of PG.

 

[AngiBe]

I've gotten them too on the Odin and know exactly what your talking about. I even switch to a single coil and it hasn't happened as often but has happened, and my wick was maybe 3 days old (also KGD).

I found holding the squonk longer has helped. It seems it feeds slower than other attys? Not sure but did cut the V at bottom of tube and try to lift the tube up so it's not hitting the bottom of the bottle because it does seem to get suctioned on the bottom and not as much juice is flowing.

If you figure out a reason/remedy...plz post it!

 

[super_X_drifter]

Gotta cut the inverted V. If you only trim it it will get stuck to the side.

I had some very harsh hits early yesterday on an older build. Pulled top cap, and observed a hot leg. Pulled the wick and tried every imaginable means to cure the hot leg.

No dice. So I rebuilt with 8 wraps of 29 per coil and it came in at .7. It vapes just as good as a .5 and it is s nice, smooth, warm dense vape.

Not sure what caused / why the incurable hot leg developed but I'm chalking it up to coil age - prolly over a month old.

How I initially diagnosed it was that even with juice running out the sides of the airholes, it was harsh. I did my initial exploration with wet wicks and the hot leg appeared about 2 seconds into the firing sequence.

 

[Bigflyrodder]

Is it a known issue that the feed holes are small on these RBAs? I did notice after switching from the Chalice that the Odins juice feed was kind of "slower" and needed more push..

No idea if it is a "known issue", just my experience thus far as compared to my Cyclone or Chalice.

 

[Big Hitter]

No idea if it is a "known issue", just my experience thus far as compared to my Cyclone or Chalice.

Everything squonks harder and slower than a chalice IMHO ..........

 

[super_X_drifter]

Everything squonks harder and slower than a chalice IMHO ..........

The Odin is a breeze to squonk brother

And each squonk saturates two lengths of wick, one of which would circumnavigate the chalice chamber and bock the airhole.

Contrary to attys like the chalice, the Odin wick stores the juice low and away from the coil meaning several more thick hits between presses. No precook.

There is also zero chance of a juice bubble getting trapped beneath the coil and staying there, castrating vape quality like can happen in a chalice. I know cause it has happened to me.

The chalice used to be top dog. Now it's just a AKC lhassa ahpso with bows and all whereas the Odin is like a cyber pit bull that you adopted and only had to pay for neutering

Whole different world of vape(or).

 

[rc10mike]

The Odin is a breeze to squonk brother

And each squonk saturates two lengths of wick, one of which would circumnavigate the chalice chamber and bock the airhole.

Contrary to attys like the chalice, the Odin wick stores the juice low and away from the coil meaning several more thick hits between presses. No precook.

There is also zero chance of a juice bubble getting trapped beneath the coil and staying there, castrating vape quality like can happen in a chalice. I know cause it has happened to me.

The chalice used to be top dog. Now it's just a AKC lhassa ahpso with bows and all whereas the Odin is like a cyber pit bull that you adopted and only had to pay for neutering

Whole different world of vape(or).

Yeah, I sort of agree with the wick size thing. The Chalice wicks had to be so small that they couldnt hold a lot of juice. The Odin is nice in this aspect. I even thought of filling the excess empty space in the bottom of the Odin with some extra cotton, just so it can hold even more, but I havent got around to it yet..

But, I do have to press about 3x harder on the bottle to get a good squonk compared to the Chalice, and I also noticed juice comes out more on one side than the other..

One thing I noticed about the Odin is taking a nice draw before firing seems to help "prime" the coil. Ive tried this on other RBAs but it seems to work exceptionally well on the Odin,

 

[rc10mike]

Could be one coil hitting before the other. Even though they are pretty close in dry fire, a difference in wicking can make one lag. In my experience, a slight difference in wicking can skew the balance and alter the flavor.

I tested the coils before I wicked them and they fire at the same time, with no hot-legs.