That may be one by Greek Modders -- and they might even still have some.
That may be one by Greek Modders -- and they might even still have some.
Yeah, I'd get pretty angry if someone talked smack about my baby too, even if he really was ugly!So, Coldgin made mention of this in an email to Stacie.... I pulled 50 Adapters.... that's FIFTY... And I pulled 25 DIFFERENT PVs including an assortment of ProVaris from several different eras...
The result.... 100% connectivity.... UNTIL... I put on some "Beauty Rings" on several of the ProVaris.
My conclusion is that the 510 connector is NOT a standard. If somebody could direct me to a SPEC SHEET for a 510 connector that tells me DEFINITIVELY where that 510 pin is going to be, then I'm going to just have to say sorry folks... the Adapter isn't a fail... the 510 connector is. If the pin is too short to use with a beauty ring that doesn't belong there in the first place, and was not designed by either ProVape OR HoH, then how is my adapter, that connected to 100% of the test devices a fail? It has a snug floating pin... should I loosen it so then it can fail because people lose it?
I rarely get heated about this stuff but I have been saying FOR YEARS that the 510 is horrible.
I mean... come ON... the 510 connector is the problem. (And by that, I don't mean ProVari 510s... I mean ALL 510s... it's a moving target)
Speaking of Loki Labs delrin rings makes me wanna cry. I bought several of them & cannot for the life of me find where I put them at.
Been looking for those rings for almost a year. Wherever they're at I hope they don't feel I abandoned them.[emoji38] Maybe they'll turn up now that I'm posting about them.
!!! G*NOTE FIVE !!!
Buuut how many proud parents you know are gonna admit their bundle of joy is ugly?Yeah, I'd get pretty angry if someone talked smack about my baby too, even if he really was ugly!![]()
Thanks Mike, I stand corrected in that the 510 is the culprit. I don't know too many folks who would use the Kabuki with the adaptor on a V2 ProVari without a beauty ring. If I had access to a lathe I would have simply cut a new pin with a longer shaft and been done with it. Perhaps I could have worded my posts a little better, but I do stand by what I said, for me, wanting to use the Kabuki with adaptor and beauty ring on my V2 and 2.5 ProVari's, it is hit or miss on whether it will work or not. That is a truthful representation of my experience for folks to consider.So, Coldgin made mention of this in an email to Stacie.... I pulled 50 Adapters.... that's FIFTY... And I pulled 25 DIFFERENT PVs including an assortment of ProVaris from several different eras...
The result.... 100% connectivity.... UNTIL... I put on some "Beauty Rings" on several of the ProVaris.
My conclusion is that the 510 connector is NOT a standard. If somebody could direct me to a SPEC SHEET for a 510 connector that tells me DEFINITIVELY where that 510 pin is going to be, then I'm going to just have to say sorry folks... the Adapter isn't a fail... the 510 connector is. If the pin is too short to use with a beauty ring that doesn't belong there in the first place, and was not designed by either ProVape OR HoH, then how is my adapter, that connected to 100% of the test devices a fail? It has a snug floating pin... should I loosen it so then it can fail because people lose it?
I rarely get heated about this stuff but I have been saying FOR YEARS that the 510 is horrible.
I mean... come ON... the 510 connector is the problem. (And by that, I don't mean ProVari 510s... I mean ALL 510s... it's a moving target)
I'm a real good hider of stuff when I drink. I have put stuff away 2-3 years ago that I still haven't found.Speaking of Loki Labs delrin rings makes me wanna cry. I bought several of them & cannot for the life of me find where I put them at.
Been looking for those rings for almost a year. Wherever they're at I hope they don't feel I abandoned them.[emoji38] Maybe they'll turn up now that I'm posting about them.
!!! G*NOTE FIVE !!!
Thanks Mike, I stand corrected in that the 510 is the culprit. I don't know too many folks who would use the Kabuki with the adaptor on a V2 ProVari without a beauty ring. If I had access to a lathe I would have simply cut a new pin with a longer shaft and been done with it. Perhaps I could have worded my posts a little better, but I do stand by what I said, for me, wanting to use the Kabuki with adaptor and beauty ring on my V2 and 2.5 ProVari's, it is hit or miss on whether it will work or not. That is a truthful representation of my experience for folks to consider.
P.S. The beauty rings that are the culprit are the "tank rings" sold on ProVape's web site.
If I make the pin longer I PROMISE you the complaint would have been "The pin is too long, and now there's a gap" from 99% of the vaping world... remember... that 510 adapter is designed to fit as many 510 connectors out there in the world as possible, NOT just ProVaris with tank rings. In fact when you consider that, the adapter isn't a fail... it's a pretty darned good solution for most people. There's no such thing as "one size fits all" in vaping.
Yup. Well said. I think many of us are much more critical and outspoken regarding American (or Canadian/European) made gear than Chinese due to the substantially higher cost and perception of higher quality.I'll tell you what, despite the pain and problems we go through with new releases and, at times, having to prove our point to Zen, it sure is nice that we can do that.
What I mean is what we pay for is not only the best of the best American made but the very opportunity to be able to call customer service and get it taken of. If there's a problem, I can actually pick up the phone, make a call and someone will actually answer. And... I BET if I didn't like the answer or results (which has never happened) I could ask to speak to Zen and at some point, I could.
When was the last time you had a problem with something out of china and could call overseas and get it taken care of or even speak to those ultimately responsible?
Look at how we circle the wagon and he comes in here, takes it on the chin and let's us know the skinny.
Bottom line - The reason I still do business with HOH is the fact I can make that phone call. I have the opportunity to let Zen know how I feel and get results. That, and the Kabuki is the best damn tank on the planet.
It's all about customer service and HOH comes through in spades!
For those of you who for the adapter is a fail, call HOH and report back here with the results. I bet you'll be happy with the end result. Don't be afraid, you didn't know it wasn't going to work for you...
I'll give him a call and see if he can make an extra long pin for me that I could seat in with a jewelers file...I'll tell you what, despite the pain and problems we go through with new releases and, at times, having to prove our point to Zen, it sure is nice that we can do that.
What I mean is what we pay for is not only the best of the best American made but the very opportunity to be able to call customer service and get it taken of. If there's a problem, I can actually pick up the phone, make a call and someone will actually answer. And... I BET if I didn't like the answer or results (which has never happened) I could ask to speak to Zen and at some point, I could.
When was the last time you had a problem with something out of china and could call overseas and get it taken care of or even speak to those ultimately responsible?
Look at how we circle the wagon and he comes in here, takes it on the chin and let's us know the skinny.
Bottom line - The reason I still do business with HOH is the fact I can make that phone call. I have the opportunity to let Zen know how I feel and get results. That, and the Kabuki is the best damn tank on the planet.
It's all about customer service and HOH comes through in spades!
For those of you who for the adapter is a fail, call HOH and report back here with the results. I bet you'll be happy with the end result. Don't be afraid, you didn't know it wasn't going to work for you...
I'll give him a call and see if he can make an extra long pin for me that I could seat in with a jewelers file...
That's not out of the question.I'll give him a call and see if he can make an extra long pin for me that I could seat in with a jewelers file...
And that right there is why you are the best Mike! I owe you an apology for any aspersions cast, I should have got on the horn and sorted things through, I let my frustration over the little issues get the best of me. I can get a little wound around the axle when I encounter things that cause me frustration.That's not out of the question.
No worries, I have pretty thick skin.And that right there is why you are the best Mike! I owe you an apology for any aspersions cast, I should have got on the horn and sorted things through, I let my frustration over the little issues get the best of me. I can get a little wound around the axle when I encounter things that cause me frustration.
Don't beat yourself up over it. Who can blame you, really? I keep having this reoccurring dream I have to prove my findings to be true. Don't know if that would be the case or not. Like I said, it's a dream... Doesn't matter, I'm moving on. Even though I know in the end it would be be taken care of, it isn't worth the hassle or even the potential of a hassle. The only reason I checked in the first place is because of the posts on here.And that right there is why you are the best Mike! I owe you an apology for any aspersions cast, I should have got on the horn and sorted things through, I let my frustration over the little issues get the best of me. I can get a little wound around the axle when I encounter things that cause me frustration.
Pretty thick beard too. Just sayin'.No worries, I have pretty thick skin.
Pics! Pics! Pics!!!!I'm super excited!! I got a white p3 last Thursday and today I will hopefully get my batteries. I can't wait to try it out for the first time!