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I'm still a dude-ette, not a dude, but... LOL

I'm pretty (semi-) convinced that a REO would be good for me, but I have questions.

I'm not into excessive cloud chasing, so I don't think in terms of sub-ohm. I like somewhere around 1.6-1.8 ohm coils. I thought the main idea of the story was to be able to match the resistance of the atty with the battery. I've been using evod tanks exclusively for almost a year now, and even though they state the ohms on the box, I always check them, and sometimes they are "off" a bit, so I adjust them with my VV.

Let's say I get a REO (non-VV). I build a coil. What should be the resistance of the coil?

And I only have 32 gauge kanthal wire at the moment. I see that most are heavier, such as 27-28. I can't use my 32? If so, how many wraps?

Sorry, it's just over my head at the moment. I'm an old lady. :confused:
 

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You can use 32 but the larger gauges are better, What I did when all I had was 32 ga was fold it in half and wrap a dual coil. like this

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What setting do you run your VV device for a 1.6 ohm coil? We can use an ohm calculator to fifure out what ohm coil would equal that with a 4.2v battery used in the Reo. Here's a calculator. Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Most people find with the additional space in the air chamber and the way the airflows that they like a lower ohm coil in the Reo than they used to like. I was 1.8 to 2.0 ohm dripping atty guy before Reo and the RM2, Now I'm a 1.0 to 1.2 coil guy. The beauty of the RM2, is it only takes a few minutes to make and load a new coil for a few pennies, So it's very ease to keep trying until you dial exactly your perfect vape.

ADDIT: the dual wire wrap drops the ohms in half so you can keep decent surface area.
 
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I'm still a dude-ette, not a dude, but... LOL

I'm pretty (semi-) convinced that a REO would be good for me, but I have questions.

I'm not into excessive cloud chasing, so I don't think in terms of sub-ohm. I like somewhere around 1.6-1.8 ohm coils. I thought the main idea of the story was to be able to match the resistance of the atty with the battery. I've been using evod tanks exclusively for almost a year now, and even though they state the ohms on the box, I always check them, and sometimes they are "off" a bit, so I adjust them with my VV.

Let's say I get a REO (non-VV). I build a coil. What should be the resistance of the coil?

And I only have 32 gauge kanthal wire at the moment. I see that most are heavier, such as 27-28. I can't use my 32? If so, how many wraps?

Sorry, it's just over my head at the moment. I'm an old lady. :confused:

I prefer and use twisted 32ga. I twist about 4ft at the time. 6 wraps around a 3d finish nail = 1.4ohm. This video will give you an idea of how to do it.

How to Twist Kanthal Wire - YouTube
 

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Just Me, I came over from the PT/Evod camp. You can use your 32g as is or you can twist 2 strands together, the tighter the twist the more resistance. If you recoil your evods you will have no problems with an rm2. It really is as simple as everyone is saying.

The difference is you are not trying to stuff everything into that tiny little tunnel, turn it upside down, then fight with the grommet, pin and chimney without disturbing your coil.

You have 2 screws and a big wide open right side up deck. If you wick with cotton the coil is out in the open where you can actually see what you are doing.
 
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...The difference is you are not trying to stuff everything into that tiny little tunnel, turn it upside down, then fight with the grommet, pin and chimney without disturbing your coil.

You mean LOSE the grommet, right? Which is what I did several times.

Yes, I can see from some of the videos that the setup would be a great deal easier than rebuilding an evod. I've said I didn't like rebuilding coils, but ^^^that is exactly the reason why. It isn't the coil I didn't like doing; it was dealing with the other parts. Thank you for pointing that out.
 

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You mean LOSE the grommet, right? Which is what I did several times.

Yes, I can see from some of the videos that the setup would be a great deal easier than rebuilding an evod. I've said I didn't like rebuilding coils, but ^^^that is exactly the reason why. It isn't the coil I didn't like doing; it was dealing with the other parts. Thank you for pointing that out.

i hated building coils. i could do it, but despised it. the whole tank crap took the fun out of vaping for me...such a PITA. no longer, not with the RM2. if anything its fun
 

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In answer to a couple of people above, if I'm using a 1.8 ohm atty, I set the voltage at about 3.8. In other words, whatever the atty reads, I set the voltage about 2 volts higher than the ohms reading of the atty.

The coil rebuilding I know I can do, not intimidated with that at all. But my brain doesn't get how you don't adjust the voltage to the coil. I don't really know how to ask the question? Will a 0.8ohm coil vape the same as a 1.2 ohm? Is it safe? Sorry, I'm just bogged down on this one.

Also, how do you know your battery is running down? Except for the fact you don't get a vape, haha. I mean, I'm used to seeing my Provari blink as a warning. ARgggg, I feel stupid, and I'm NOT! LOL
 

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I prefer and use twisted 32ga. I twist about 4ft at the time. 6 wraps around a 3d finish nail = 1.4ohm. This video will give you an idea of how to do it.

How to Twist Kanthal Wire - YouTube

I saw another video probably last year about twisting kanthal and wondered what in the world one would do that for. Now I know!
 

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Instead of adjusting voltage to get a vape you like, you adjust resistance of the coil. They are related.

But it's also important to under stand that air chamber size and airflow play a huge part in how much flavor and how harsh or hot it is.

Your 1.8 ohms at 3.8 volts is about 8 watts at the coil, same with a 1.6 ohm coil at 3.6 volts. So on your current device you like 8 watts. I used to vape at the same setting when using a VV/VW devices. I was also very hesitant to give that up but realized that I can get a vape I like dialed in with the coil build didn't need the variable control.

I found that with the increase air chamber and air flow, if I build a RM2 to 8 watts it was a weak vape. after trying different builds I found I liked 14 - 17 watts in the RM2 or a 1.0 to 1.2 ohm coil.
 

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One more question (maybe!)--so, I'm guessing that the battery isn't regulated, that is, I mean to say: The Provari has a consistent vape and warns me with a blinking light that my battery is getting low. Is the last vape on a REO the same as the first? I'm thinking no...? Can you tell when the battery is getting low, other than it doesn't give a decent vape? Sorry, I just don't know how to word the question, but I'm sure you know what I mean.
 

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You are correct in that there is no electronics to fail that would give you a battery warning. You can wash in the sink :)

Yes the vape will drop off as the voltage drops, Most find it noticeable around 3.7 volts and change the battery then. I find I change batteries once a day even if they don't need it. I vape multiple Reos during the day. When I had only one Reo, a fresh battery would go in the morning and a swap in the afternoon. Once you lock in the coil you like you'll be able to judge by juice left in the bottle as to when you need to change the battery.

After a while it becomes automatic
 

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And if you veterans could recommend a battery tester too?? A vape shop that I visited over the weekend had this tubular shaped device with an LED screen that they used to check the volts on my batteries while my batteries were in my Reo.

It looked very similar to this...

High Quality Variable Voltage Tester 510 Ego Vape Volt Meter E Cig Ohm Meter - Buy E Cig Ohm Meter,Voltage Tester,510 Ego Vape Product on Alibaba.com

that would work but requires you pull the RBA off the Reo. I use this charger that show voltage instead.

Xtar VP2 - RTD vapor
 
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