Oh PT2, My Fickle Friend!

[Trayce]

i changed my juice ratio to 30/70 pg/vg and rebuilt them to 1.6omh and they work fine now took me about a gallon of 50/50 before i did this was going to em and spend the money on the kayfun but they are great now big fat plumes of vapour

It IS a long learning curve with this 'hobby' ! Takes awhile to develop the intuition or insight needed to tweak everything to your liking. And everyone's different because we all have different juice ratios, like and dislikes, equipment, etc... so it's not like someone can say "OK here's what you do and it will fix everything." It's more like, "Well, try this and try that and then see how that goes...."

 

[Alter]

It IS a long learning curve with this 'hobby' ! Takes awhile to develop the intuition or insight needed to tweak everything to your liking. And everyone's different because we all have different juice ratios, like and dislikes, equipment, etc... so it's not like someone can say "OK here's what you do and it will fix everything." It's more like, "Well, try this and try that and then see how that goes...."

I get a laugh outta people who think vaping is plug and play, there are so many variables to why it tastes burnt or its not firing. I had nobody to show me how this and that is done, or fix it this way either. If it wasn't for youtube and forum threads, I don't see the average noob figuring some things out. I have gotten to the point to exactly know what I want out of my vape and how to make coils to have my vape exactly what I want.
There is a huge learning curve that for me started right after my first CE4 dryhit and to figure out why it happened and not have it happen again. I rebuilt my CE4's and figured then how crap stock coils were, then dove into rebuilding protanks and will never look back.
I read over and over the same issues with protanks and I don't have any of them and or have solved the issue. Through learning DIY I've had nothing but glorious vaping quality for over the last 6+ months and it just seems to only get better now that I got hold of some hemp fiber from Tibs.
I make a 6 wrap on a 1.8mm percision screwdriver of 32 kanthal then hemp fiber instead of cotton and that gives me 2.0 ohms. I liked the microcoils but they gunk up too fast, change ohm readings if not totally dryburned and scraped clean and are severe juice hogs, so I went back to just good ol' regular coils and get twice the use out of the coil before it has to be maintained.

P.S. Vaping isn't a hobby for me its a way of life for the time being, so I can ween myself off of the nicotine

 

[Trayce]

I get a laugh outta people who think vaping is plug and play, there are so many variables to why it tastes burnt or its not firing.

True, but in fairness you can't know what you don't know, until you know it. Let's face it... vapers were smokers and smoking IS plug and play. That's where we all came from. Even non-smokers who want to try vaping expect it to work the same way. And if you buy Njoys and spend a poopload of money throwing each one away after 20min of chain vaping, it IS plug and play. It's only when you get into saving money by moving to mods and tanks and whatnot, it becomes a carnival of rides.

I had nobody to show me how this and that is done, or fix it this way either. If it wasn't for youtube and forum threads, I don't see the average noob figuring some things out.

I would venture most of us had no one but the Internet. Thank god for the vids and ECF!

I have gotten to the point to exactly know what I want out of my vape and how to make coils to have my vape exactly what I want. There is a huge learning curve that for me started right after my first CE4 dryhit and to figure out why it happened and not have it happen again. I rebuilt my CE4's and figured then how crap stock coils were, then dove into rebuilding protanks and will never look back.

I'm getting there too... takes time though. For each of us. And the thing is, some people literally don't have the time to sink months of research and fiddling into this 'hobby' or 'necessity' or whatever it is for each of us. Some people simply cannot do that.

[...] I make a 6 wrap on a 1.8mm percision screwdriver of 32 kanthal then hemp fiber instead of cotton and that gives me 2.0 ohms. I liked the microcoils but they gunk up too fast, change ohm readings if not totally dryburned and scraped clean and are severe juice hogs, so I went back to just good ol' regular coils and get twice the use out of the coil before it has to be maintained.

I found the opposite. That the standard coil was not robust enough to withstand re-wicking and crapped out too fast...whereas the micro-coil can be dry-burned, re-wicked and reused longer. Which just goes show... this is not a "one-answer-fits-all" industry.

P.S. Vaping isn't a hobby for me its a way of life for the time being, so I can ween myself off of the nicotine

Good luck to you. I was only a habitual smoker for very short periods once or twice in my life (cloves). I was an occasional smoker (not addicted to nic) nearly all my life... meaning sometimes months would pass between a smoke, and I favored flavored cigarellos the last 15 yrs. But figured vaping occasionally is better than smoking occasionally... so I actually vape much more than I ever smoked, but at 0-nic.

 

[SAG]

This thread was a great read for me. I use all Kanger BCCs. I'm currently running several PT2s + T3S' and Mini PT2s. Out of all my PT2s, only one is "bipolar". It requires ALOT of attention. I don't rebuild my coils because I simply don't want to. This one leaks from the glass oring seals, sometimes. I've switched seals. Switched glass. She's just a freak. Probably mad because I like my well behaved others. It is what it is. I'm about done trying to get along with her. She's going in the cabinet and will be considered a parts donor.

After I fiddle for a couple more weeks.

 

[Alter]

Just to let you know SAG..those T3 heads will fit inside a protank base but the protank heads don't fit inside the T3 base. There is a slight diameter difference in the metal flange. You will notice if you try to put a protank head into a T3, the tank won't screw on completely(gap on the bottom) and you will also have a gap ontop the stem cap, that can be solved if you use 2 stem caps, one right side up and other upside down in the T3 you can make the PT heads work. The T3 heads do work just fine in a protank.

 

[Trayce]

This thread was a great read for me. I use all Kanger BCCs. I'm currently running several PT2s + T3S' and Mini PT2s. Out of all my PT2s, only one is "bipolar". It requires ALOT of attention. I don't rebuild my coils because I simply don't want to. This one leaks from the glass oring seals, sometimes. I've switched seals. Switched glass. She's just a freak.

Odd, that. I am assuming you mean the o-ring seals that are flat and sit in the gutter of the base and top, which the glass presses against when the tank is put together? IOW the leaking is external and not on to the head pin.... (if on to the head pin it could be the o-ring missing from the head itself, as there is one at the base of the threads to keep the juice from leaking on to the mod).

It sounds like maybe the base and/or top was not molded true (evenly)... ?

Probably mad because I like my well behaved others.

It is what it is. I'm about done trying to get along with her. She's going in the cabinet and will be considered a parts donor. After I fiddle for a couple more weeks.

Have you ever used cartos? If so did you save any carto condoms in your parts jar? Because there is one more thing you might try.... I happened to lose one of the o-rings in my PT2 when cleaning it.... went down the drain.... couldn't figure out why it was leaking from the top... d'oh!... searched high and low at the time for a replacement but only wanted silicone, not rubber. Elvenhippie, a member here, said she replaced hers by using a carto condom. She cut the top off, then stretched to fit down in that gutter. I had no luck stretching it to fit, much less getting it to lay flat (because of the curl of the material). So I just cut a few snips off the top of the condom, then cut each one open by making a single snip so it was one straight strip, then instead of trying to get them to lay flat in the o-ring gutter I just stood a few on end all the way around the circumference and they "curled" right around the gutter easily. Now since they were standing on end and not laying flat I never dreamed it would actually seal it but had nothing to lose. I put the tank back together, and no leaks... and it's been 2 months. If there is some deviation in the gutters or something, this method of sort of "stuffing it with silicone strips" might do the trick? (If you don't have any carto condoms on hand I can mail you a few if you wanted to PM me with an address.) Just a thought!

 

[SAG]

Ooooh, I never thought of surgically altering a carto condom! Yes, I have some in the "cabinet of death". I agree that it must be the base wasn't molded true. After switching glass and o-rings, I will try just swapping the base. (I knew I wasn't done with her yet!) Thanks for the ideas. Vapemail today. Now I have about 30 replacement o-rings for the pro tanks and minis. I'll put em next to the 10 spare glass tanks! Read too many stories of other people shattering theirs. Go figure, 2 of mine went sky diving off the kitchen counter and didn't meet humpty dumpty!! You just never know. I'm starting to feel like I'm stocking a PT emergency room over here. I'm ready.

 

[Trayce]

Ooooh, I never thought of surgically altering a carto condom! Yes, I have some in the "cabinet of death". I agree that it must be the base wasn't molded true. After switching glass and o-rings, I will try just swapping the base. (I knew I wasn't done with her yet!) Thanks for the ideas. Vapemail today. Now I have about 30 replacement o-rings for the pro tanks and minis. I'll put em next to the 10 spare glass tanks! Read too many stories of other people shattering theirs. Go figure, 2 of mine went sky diving off the kitchen counter and didn't meet humpty dumpty!! You just never know. I'm starting to feel like I'm stocking a PT emergency room over here. I'm ready.

I have to say my PT2 has also shown a hardy disposition. It's slipped out of my fingers at least 4 or 5 times when filling or cleaning or the like, and lived to tell every time. Good luck with switching bases... hope that does the trick!