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Good day, people of the vaping world


i'm a new too the vaping experience and i would like too Learn More About vaping .
Got myself a X Cube Mini 75W With Samsung INR18650-25R 2500 for about 3 weeks.

(bought LG HG2 40A 3000 mAh 18650 Flattop Batterij today, to see if my battery will last longer and get less hot.)

People tell me its safe to vape with a regulated mod box if its true that's nice , still i would not wanna over stress batteries and test if that theorie is correct that it would keep me safe.

I'm still working out how i need to look at things , normally i would VAPE at 0.2/0.25 ohm's at 50W, but i got a 0,8 ohm coil (councel of vape vengeance) with the ohm calculator i can use this at 17w 3,7v 4,6A safly i presume and this would be te max.


things i can't find and would like too know :
*A battery with a discharge of 3,7v continues (4,20 full) how much volt can i over charge?(how long)
Once i saw my mod say 7 volts this made me curious about the volt part of a batterie.

*If i would like te Vape at 1,5 Ohm do i need to change my batterie too a lower mAH (1500mAH /20A ) ?
( X cube mini 3.0 ohm - 0,1 ohm)

*How is it possible too Vape at 220W(150W) !!! ( thinking of buying a new reg-box mod H-priv)
what kind of build would cross my path triple coil sub-ohm ?

* With the Ohm calculator wich two do you fill in to calculat ?
have know idear how they set up the mods to make it safe to vape at 75w without knowing what ohms
that i'm going too use and without saying how i can safely vape at it .

not sure if it is on the web some where a exel(picture) with a list of safe ohm,volt,watt,battery(single,duel,type) max/low use in one line
would be handy

*How to get good tast

*How to get a huge cloud

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would thank you all before hand for helping me with others and myself for a good and safe vape.


Who knows maybe in 20 years i can use this info to explain my kids how to vape when this is the standard.
And Marlboro will have mods on its own looking like the packet with a rta/rda on top,
teach them how to build there first sub-ohm coil.


Friendly regards,
Josh13


What mod would you recommend ?
-small
-good price
-long batt life
-light
-vape options
-looks cool
- high Watt ( 200W )
( h-priv?)






 

sofarsogood

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Ohm Build Help

Good day, people of the vaping world


i'm a new too the Vaping experience and i would like too Learn More About Vaping .
Got myself a X Cube Mini 75W With Samsung INR18650-25R 2500 for about 3 weeks.

(bought LG HG2 40A 3000 mAh 18650 Flattop Batterij today, to see if my battery will last longer and get less hot.)

People tell me its safe to vape with a regulated mod box if its true that's nice , still i would not wanna over stress batteries and test if that theorie is correct that it would keep me safe.

I'm still working out how i need to look at things , normally i would VAPE at 0.2/0.25 ohm's at 50W, but i got a 0,8 ohm coil (councel of vape vengeance) with the ohm calculator i can use this at 17w 3,7v 4,6A safly i presume and this would be te max.


things i can't find and would like too know :
*A battery with a discharge of 3,7v continues (4,20 full) how much volt can i over charge?(how long)
Once i saw my mod say 7 volts this made me curious about the volt part of a batterie.

*If i would like te Vape at 1,5 Ohm do i need to change my batterie too a lower mAH (1500mAH /20A ) ?
( X cube mini 3.0 ohm - 0,1 ohm)

*How is it possible too Vape at 220W(150W) !!! ( thinking of buying a new reg-box mod H-priv)
what kind of build would cross my path triple coil sub-ohm ?

* With the Ohm calculator wich two do you fill in to calculat ?
have know idear how they set up the mods to make it safe to vape at 75w without knowing what ohms
that i'm going too use and without saying how i can safely vape at it .

not sure if it is on the web some where a exel(picture) with a list of safe ohm,volt,watt,battery(single,duel,type) max/low use in one line
would be handy

*How to get good tast

*How to get a huge cloud

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would thank you all before hand for helping me with others and myself for a good and safe vape.


Who knows maybe in 20 years i can use this info to explain my kids how to vape when this is the standard.
And Marlboro will have mods on its own looking like the packet with a rta/rda on top,
teach them how to build there first sub-ohm coil.


Friendly regards,
Josh13


What mod would you recommend ?
-small
-good price
-long batt life
-light
-vape options
-looks cool
- high Watt ( 200W )
( h-priv?)





Did you used to be a smoker? How long have you been vaping? What is the resistance on the coil you are vaping right now? How many watts right now?
 

sonicbomb

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Both the Samsung and the LG are 20 amp CDR (continuous discharge rate) cells, this value represents a green zone of safe amp draw. Drawing more amps from the cell than this and you will reduce the lifespan of the battery, and more importantly you are on untested ground in terms of safety. Demand too many amps from a cell not designed to handle it and it may vent.

Regulated devices are generally safer than mechanicals because they use circuitry to regulate the vaping experience, and usually have many safety features to protect the user from short circuited coils and incorrect battery insertion.
Despite this, it is still down to the user to choose an appropriate cell for the wattage used, the mod cannot protect you from this.

As stated the coil resistance is not important on a regulated device, only the wattage is important. The amp draw will increase as the voltage level in the battery decreases. So the important value is the amp draw when the battery is discharged at around 3.2 volts.

To find the amp draw use I=P/V (-10%)

Eg.
50w divided by 4.2v equals 11.9 divided by 0.9 = 13.22 amps
50w divided by 3.2v equals 15.6 divided by 0.9 = 17.33 amps

You can also use steam-engine to calculate these values, paying attention to the dark blue box labeled 'battery drain' on the right. Steam-engine is a superb online tool for many aspects of vaping.

An 18650 is fully charged at 4.2 volts, the mod can apply higher voltages than this to the coil by stepping the voltage up internally.

Your 1.5 ohm coil is fine, you just need to select a battery with an appropriate amp limit for your wattage range as described above, ideally one that also has a nice high capacity (mAh) for longer run times. The LG is a good choice.

Good flavor is usually the result of a good juice in combination with the right atomizer, airflow configuration and coil position. There is no magic formula, you need to experiment to find what is right for you.

Huge clouds, the same applies.

I suggest you master your current device before moving on to another.
 
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I totally agree with everything sonicbomb said. :thumb:

For future reference:

Information Resources for Your First RBA
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Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
  • A popular and essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.
Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries Part 1
  • For those who want to learn the differences between IMR, IMR/hybrid, ICR, and LiPo batteries. What do those numbers and letters on batteries mean? What's an amp rating and why is it more important than the mAh rating when choosing a battery for vaping?
Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder
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