Ok just a question for apv's
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Well now that i am exclusively using RBAs, I have sold all my Provaris(except 1) and 3 out of 4 Kicks, because the need for VV or VW is gone with the ability to make my coils whatever resistance I want. Why pay for electronics that will eventually fail when I can get the same result out of a mechanical mod that will never breakdown. 
Well now that i am exclusively using RBAs, I have sold all my Provaris(except 1) and 3 out of 4 Kicks, because the need for VV or VW is gone with the ability to make my coils whatever resistance I want. Why pay for electronics that will eventually fail when I can get the same result out of a mechanical mod that will never breakdown.
now that makes sense to this old mind. I happy dripping with my 3.7 volt kGo and I reallyu like my twist. Thank you for making a little bit of sense to the bigger world. I gotta stealth vape where I work. The little 400mah crystal by vision and also the 400mah spinner plus the itaste works out for me when I'm at work. Really I could get away with just one but I like to swap. I got a vmax and will never buy another one because of the problems they have with voltage. It's not right . If I want a certain voltage I want that voltage. Still thinking about another itaste but the magnet connectors (which I'm real familiar with cause I use to work in that kind of factory) are a lot to carry every day. I need something I can carry and not have people say solmething about it. Ordered some unflavored juice today just for that reason. I'll do anyathing to stay off the analolgs/
The advancements being made in the vaping community is moving very quickly when compared to other product lines. It seems like every month their is a new atomizer device (atomizer --> atomizer cartridge -->cartomizer -->cartotank -->clearomizer --> ce2-6 -->vivi nova and clones -->Genesis-style RBA). All that in the time frame of a year or two.
With batteries, all there was in the beginning were the 510 cig-sized batteries, then egos, and then the tube/box style and flashlight tubes mods. There's two concepts at work with the batteries:
Cigalikes and ego's are less expensive initially but are not very durable and are considered disposable -- their batteries will eventually die and need to be disgarded within several months. The entire battery unit will require replacement for $20-30.
The other concept is to use a much more durable metal or wood containerr to hold the batteries. These APV's are made with the durability to last years. They use larger rechargable batteries for longer battery life. These replaceable batteries are less than $10 and generally last a year.
So that is it in a nutshell. Both concepts work for different types of people and their needs.
Cheaper initially, less durable, shorter life expectancy, and smaller form factor - or - more expensive initially, more durability, long life expectancy, and larger form factor in order to use larger batteries.
Variable voltage just came out in the last couple of years, and is yet another category of devices. Many people are happily content with a simple 3.7v mechanical device and have no interest in using variable voltage.
With batteries, all there was in the beginning were the 510 cig-sized batteries, then egos, and then the tube/box style and flashlight tubes mods. There's two concepts at work with the batteries:
Cigalikes and ego's are less expensive initially but are not very durable and are considered disposable -- their batteries will eventually die and need to be disgarded within several months. The entire battery unit will require replacement for $20-30.
The other concept is to use a much more durable metal or wood containerr to hold the batteries. These APV's are made with the durability to last years. They use larger rechargable batteries for longer battery life. These replaceable batteries are less than $10 and generally last a year.
So that is it in a nutshell. Both concepts work for different types of people and their needs.
Cheaper initially, less durable, shorter life expectancy, and smaller form factor - or - more expensive initially, more durability, long life expectancy, and larger form factor in order to use larger batteries.
Variable voltage just came out in the last couple of years, and is yet another category of devices. Many people are happily content with a simple 3.7v mechanical device and have no interest in using variable voltage.
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So do you recomend the SB, bolt, or any others?
I refuse to pay the money for the provari, that's just way to much. I can get two or three of the other for what one provai cost. Sorry but that's the way I am.
I refuse to pay the money for the provari, that's just way to much. I can get two or three of the other for what one provai cost. Sorry but that's the way I am.
I felt the same as you at one time, in fact only 3-4 months ago. I advanced from Smokeless Image Volt cigalikes to my first big battery mods, an AltSmoke BB and Silver Bullet. I wanted to go most of the day on one battery change and have the ability to carry larger juice capacities on cartotanks. I was pretty satisfied with that.
Then AltSmoke opened a brick-and-mortar store a couple of hours away, and I went up to see for myself. I met Demitri and Rob, the owner of AltSmoke. Great guys, love to talk vape talk. They had a juice tasting bar which I took advantage of. I had my own mods and favorite juices with me. Rob asked to see my Silver Bullet. He put a Kick and extension tube on my own SB.
I won't say it was a revelation with music and angels singing, but it was pretty amazing what more heat can do for certain juices. My favorite juice at the time was Kona Velvet Milkshake, and the higher voltage brought out undertones in the juice that I had not noticed before. Anyway, nice story. Point is I began thinking about variable voltage.
I could have easily Kicked my Silver Bullet. But not all of my juices are the same, many would require different voltages. I also change up my juices frequently, some for just a few toots, and on to the next. To change the settings on the Kick requires removing it and the battery from the SB, turning a screw with a screwdriver, and reassembling the device. I wanted something simpler.
Did a lot of research. A lot. Many, many people recommended the Provari. It seemed to have everything I wanted in one device, especially safety features, Acuset technology, extraordinary build quality, quick and easy menu functioning for voltage change, test atty resistance and battery voltage, and exceptional customer support. I liked the idea Provape was an American company and that 95% of their devices parts are American made. I also liked the idea that they could do repairs even post-warranty and have been known to provide updates on customer mods for a nominal price.
I pretty much decided to someday get a Provari, and when they announced the new colors, I knew I was ready and ordered one on opening day. I've never looked back. I use the Provari 90% of the time, it rarely is out of arm's reach. I am totally satisfied. Until you hold one, vape one, and own one, you just won't be able to understand. Honest. It was totally worth the money for me.
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Like I said, I was where you are now, believing that no mod is worth that kind of money. I totally understand. But if you read the threads about Provari's here you likely will not find an unsatisfied owner.
We tend to love them so much that we feel inclined to recommend them too often and to anyone. That is why many of us are called fanboys or elitists. Not really, we're just happy to have found the perfect mod for us. Maybe because some had already spent hundreds of dollars on diasappointing mid-level mods that just didn't get it all together like the Provari does. Many Provari owners state that they wished they had just gone straight to the Provari and not wasted the time and money on the wanna-be's. It doesn't happen much in todays world, but with the Provari, you get what you pay for.
By the way, you mentioned you already own a Vmax and iTaste. Why the interest in another mod? How do you like that new Vmax?
That's one of the best features I love about the Provari is the Acuset microprocessor. With each battery the vaping experience is the same from start to finish. Accurate voltage that I set and get, every time. And when the battery is getting low and I don't notice because of Acuset, the Provari gently lets me know by blinking the power switch.
The SB, and even the BB, are both well built, finely machined, very durable mods that I can easily recommend. The Bolt, being cheaper, doesn't have the things that I just mentioned. But it may suit your purposes perfectly. Whatever keeps you off the smokes.
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What I don't like about the Provari is it has poor reception during bad weather, drops way too many calls, refuses to double as a TV remote, and won't take out my garbage.
Then AltSmoke opened a brick-and-mortar store a couple of hours away, and I went up to see for myself. I met Demitri and Rob, the owner of AltSmoke. Great guys, love to talk vape talk. They had a juice tasting bar which I took advantage of. I had my own mods and favorite juices with me. Rob asked to see my Silver Bullet. He put a Kick and extension tube on my own SB.
I won't say it was a revelation with music and angels singing, but it was pretty amazing what more heat can do for certain juices. My favorite juice at the time was Kona Velvet Milkshake, and the higher voltage brought out undertones in the juice that I had not noticed before. Anyway, nice story. Point is I began thinking about variable voltage.
I could have easily Kicked my Silver Bullet. But not all of my juices are the same, many would require different voltages. I also change up my juices frequently, some for just a few toots, and on to the next. To change the settings on the Kick requires removing it and the battery from the SB, turning a screw with a screwdriver, and reassembling the device. I wanted something simpler.
Did a lot of research. A lot. Many, many people recommended the Provari. It seemed to have everything I wanted in one device, especially safety features, Acuset technology, extraordinary build quality, quick and easy menu functioning for voltage change, test atty resistance and battery voltage, and exceptional customer support. I liked the idea Provape was an American company and that 95% of their devices parts are American made. I also liked the idea that they could do repairs even post-warranty and have been known to provide updates on customer mods for a nominal price.
I pretty much decided to someday get a Provari, and when they announced the new colors, I knew I was ready and ordered one on opening day. I've never looked back. I use the Provari 90% of the time, it rarely is out of arm's reach. I am totally satisfied. Until you hold one, vape one, and own one, you just won't be able to understand. Honest. It was totally worth the money for me.
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Like I said, I was where you are now, believing that no mod is worth that kind of money. I totally understand. But if you read the threads about Provari's here you likely will not find an unsatisfied owner.
We tend to love them so much that we feel inclined to recommend them too often and to anyone. That is why many of us are called fanboys or elitists. Not really, we're just happy to have found the perfect mod for us. Maybe because some had already spent hundreds of dollars on diasappointing mid-level mods that just didn't get it all together like the Provari does. Many Provari owners state that they wished they had just gone straight to the Provari and not wasted the time and money on the wanna-be's. It doesn't happen much in todays world, but with the Provari, you get what you pay for.
By the way, you mentioned you already own a Vmax and iTaste. Why the interest in another mod? How do you like that new Vmax?
That's one of the best features I love about the Provari is the Acuset microprocessor. With each battery the vaping experience is the same from start to finish. Accurate voltage that I set and get, every time. And when the battery is getting low and I don't notice because of Acuset, the Provari gently lets me know by blinking the power switch.
The SB, and even the BB, are both well built, finely machined, very durable mods that I can easily recommend. The Bolt, being cheaper, doesn't have the things that I just mentioned. But it may suit your purposes perfectly. Whatever keeps you off the smokes.
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What I don't like about the Provari is it has poor reception during bad weather, drops way too many calls, refuses to double as a TV remote, and won't take out my garbage.
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I own several variable voltage devices and they get very little use, I'm more than happy with a low resistance atty and a 3.7 volt device. Variable wattage on the other hand has been an absolute game changer for me. To be able to get the same great vape regardless of what ohm tank or carto I'm using is just sensational. I recently purchased a Man Cave Mod VW, I found my preferred wattage in the first 5 minutes, and I haven't had to adjust anything since.
I'll never purchase another VV device, but any mods that come out with the DNA from evolv in them I'll be taking a serious look at.
I'll never purchase another VV device, but any mods that come out with the DNA from evolv in them I'll be taking a serious look at.
By the way, you mentioned you already own a Vmax and iTaste. Why the interest in another mod? How do you like that new Vmax?
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I do like the vmax but really like the itaste more. The vmax just won't go to a low enough voltage for my taste. I know most like a really hot vape but when I try to do that it just chokes me up. I really like a lighter vape and being so new to all of this the itaste also suggest the voltage range for what is on it. The itaste will fit in my uniform pocket without looking so strange that people say things.. I was just looking yesterday and never realized how many their were out ther. Heck I cant make up my mind on a tank. I think I want one but just don't know. I keep seeing and watching reviews of products but just get more confused. I really should say I've got 2 1100mah kGo's, 2 1000mah twist, the vmax, the itaste, and also just got some mini's. A 400mah vision crystal, and a 400mah vision spinner. All of them do the job I want. I work in an office and wear a uniform everyday. The twist and kgo's fit perfect in my pen pocket. The mini's were bought so I could stealth vape when the weather is bad. Vaping is a great big no no where I work. (But lots of people come in and say how nice my office smells when I'm there.)
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I assume you mean a link to Man Cave Mods?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...m/327234-mancavemods-vw-amd-vv-wood-mods.html
I spent a long time lusting after fancy vv and vw mods. I have owned the two big players in that area. I had a provari and a Darwin. Long story short the provari got sold to my coworker and Darwin got traded for a hybrid on the classys. Once I got my hands on an unregulated mechanical mod and a rebuild able atty it was all over! You can wrap your coils to whatever ohm you want. Hotter Vape you want? Use less wire or use a bigger guage wire. Cooler Vape use more wire or a smaller guage. Done. It's all I need now. Just my two cents
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